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    #16
    Your mirror http://mirror.internode.on.net may be down (though I am connecting to it via the web just fine)
    Are you behind a proxy by any chance? Anyway, you may want to try a different server.

    Plasma 5 is the desktop in Vivid - this replaces the "KDE 4" you had, and will be the default in 15,04. There will be no separate instance of each.


    As to breakages and borkages, this is to be expected, especially this early on, when Ubuntu and Kubuntu are constantly pushing changes to Vivid. It is very easy for one to be missing a whole boatload of things that simply have not finished being copied over. If you were able to update properly, you'd simply have to wait for things to finish and try again. And this doesn't take into account packaging bugs and new stuff. Be prepared, very prepared, for a rough ride
    Last edited by claydoh; Nov 12, 2014, 05:13 AM.

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      #17
      Looks like we are now out of the 2 week stalled state on progress for Vivid as the CD image now has the date 20 November! I am now waiting for lots of updates to appear in the repositories.

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        #18
        Kde 14.12

        The Packaging of the KDE 14.12 seems to have started...



        https://trello.com/b/3s11MoXD/15-04 --> https://trello.com/c/9TOekRXN/4-pack...ications-14-12

        More links: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...d-Vervet-15-04
        A good place to start: Topic: Top 20 Kubuntu FAQs & Answers
        Searching FAQ's: Google Search 'FAQ from Kubuntuforums'

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          #19
          Originally posted by claydoh View Post
          Your mirror http://mirror.internode.on.net may be down (though I am connecting to it via the web just fine)
          Are you behind a proxy by any chance? Anyway, you may want to try a different server.
          Since the new version has been available for download, I decided to try it out as I believe that some of repositories may have changed. I now only get a failure with the "extras" sources. My sources.list for vivid is:
          Code:
          deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu vivid main
          deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/ vivid-proposed multiverse universe main restricted
          deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu vivid main
          In the case of the sources list for utopic the "extras" is:
          Code:
          deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu utopic main
          deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu utopic main
          deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/ utopic-proposed restricted universe multiverse main
          The utopic updates do not give any errors whereas the vivid updates fail on the "extras" no matter what server I use, even the main one (this takes for ever!).
          So is the "extras" not valid for vivid?
          Last edited by NoWorries; Nov 21, 2014, 01:53 PM.

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            #20
            Originally posted by NoWorries View Post
            The utopic updates do not give any errors whereas the vivid updates fail on the "extras" no matter what serer I use, even the main one (this takes for ever!).
            So is the "extras" not valid for vivid?
            There is no "extras" repo for vivid (http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/), the extras repo generally opens around release time IIRC (if you need something from extras in vivid, try using the utopic extras repo).

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              #21
              Originally posted by Rog132 View Post
              The Packaging of the KDE 14.12 seems to have started...
              14.12?

              12.04
              12.10
              13.04
              13.10
              14.04
              Shouldn't the next version be
              14.10?
              And after it 15.04?
              "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
              – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                #22
                Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
                14.12?

                12.04
                12.10
                13.04
                13.10
                14.04
                Shouldn't the next version be
                14.10?
                And after it 15.04?
                Rog was talking about the KDE Applications release 14.12 (not kubuntu releases). KDE has recently separated the releases of Plasma, Frameworks and Applications:
                https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules
                https://www.kde.org/announcements/an...4.12-beta3.php

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                  #23
                  KDE is the community (or so I get told, repeatedly).
                  Now the Plasma desktop, Foundations, and Applications seem to be updated with different version numbers and different cadences.

                  Grey Geek's version numbers are K(ubuntu)'s, which I really like.

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                    #24
                    KDE December release...

                    http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/12/04...el.html#t19:20
                    Riddell http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-statu....97_vivid.html looking better today, should be good for a final check over and upload tomorrow 19:20
                    =>

                    A good place to start: Topic: Top 20 Kubuntu FAQs & Answers
                    Searching FAQ's: Google Search 'FAQ from Kubuntuforums'

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                      #25
                      5

                      Release of KDE Frameworks 5.5.0: https://www.kde.org/announcements/kd...orks-5.5.0.php


                      Kubuntu KF5 5.5.0 vivid status: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/b...5.0_vivid.html
                      Kubuntu Plasma 5.1.2 vivid status: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-statu...1.2_vivid.html
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                        #26
                        What I would like to see fixed before the final release

                        While there is a lot of significant development involved with Vivid, there are some features, which I would like to see fixed, before I would consider replacing Utopic by this new version. Others may have found other problems, but the list of problems that I have currently found are as follows.
                        1. Keyboard has the keys for @ and in the wrong position. If I shift ', I get @ instead of , for shift 2, I get instead of @. This happens for Input Devices, Generic 101 – key (Intl) PC and for Generic 102 – key (Intl) PC. On Utopic the correct characters are given. FIXED - Updates must have resolved it.
                        2. Attached devices such as a DVD only show “Open with File Manager. Utopic shows the multi-media options.
                        3. If I add an empty panel that I fill with applications, and select the option to have “Windows Can Cover”, I cannot uncover it when I move the mouse to the extreme edge where the panel is located. Utopic allows an empty panel, which is filled with applications to launch, to be shown when the cursor is moved to the edge where it is located.
                        4. No Screensaver option is provided. This is available in KDE 4.12 and provides many pleasurable visual experiences, particularly for my 2 year old grandson. I believe that there are many who do not use this feature, but there are some, including me, who do.
                        5. More and improved Widgets are needed. For example, the analogue clock does not provide the addition of multiple time zones. Also,the widgets on the desktop have their options bar always on the right side. This limits the right edge extremities for locating widgets and oddly enough, even the left edge side movement is limited.
                        6. Muon reports that plasma-widget-yawp is not installable.
                        7. KDE Partition Manager does not work. FIXED: Now solved in Plasma 5.2.1, also see claydoh's solution in post #31. It gives the errorClick image for larger version

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                        8. NVIDIA Fails to Load. The command
                          Code:
                          [FONT=monospace][COLOR=#000000]:~$ grep -i nv /var/log/syslog[/COLOR][/FONT]
                          gives the output
                          Code:
                          Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    4.266811] nouveau  [  DEVICE][0000:01:00.0] Chipset: GF108 (NVC1) 
                          Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    4.266812] nouveau  [  DEVICE][0000:01:00.0] Family : NVC0 
                          Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.122757] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. 
                          Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.125239] nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or  required key missing - tainting k
                          ernel 
                          Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128870] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1 device(s). 
                          Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128872] NVRM: This can occur when a driver such as:  
                          Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128872] NVRM: nouveau, rivafb, nvidiafb or rivatv  
                          Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128872] NVRM: was loaded and obtained ownership of the NVIDIA device(s). 
                          Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128875] NVRM: Try unloading the conflicting kernel module (and/or 
                          Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128875] NVRM: reconfigure
                          I look forward to having these problems fixed and I would be interested to know if others have experienced any other problems and if the list I have given has been experienced by others.
                        Last edited by NoWorries; Feb 26, 2015, 09:01 AM. Reason: Two Problems Fixed

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                          #27
                          In your case, I would not suggest moving to Vivid. It will be a release or more before everything is in better shape, feature-wise. Vivid is not expected to be 100 percent feature-complete, but with at least Plasma 5.2.2, and even a remote chance of 5.3 (likely too late to get that in before final) there will be a number of movements in the right direction.


                          Originally posted by NoWorries View Post
                          While there is a lot of significant development involved with Vivid, there are some features, which I would like to see fixed, before I would consider replacing Utopic by this new version. Others may have found other problems, but the list of problems that I have currently found are as follows.
                          1. Keyboard has the keys for @ and in the wrong position. If I shift ', I get @ instead of , for shift 2, I get instead of @. This happens for Input Devices, Generic 101 – key (Intl) PC and for Generic 102 – key (Intl) PC. On Utopic the correct characters are given.
                          1. I can't reproduce this one, likely an Ubuntu bug for Launchpad

                          2. Attached devices such as a DVD only show “Open with File Manager. Utopic shows the multi-media options.
                          3. If I add an empty panel that I fill with applications, and select the option to have “Windows Can Cover”, I cannot uncover it when I move the mouse to the extreme edge where the panel is located. Utopic allows an empty panel, which is filled with applications to launch, to be shown when the cursor is moved to the edge where it is located.
                          Probably a bug/wishlist for bugs.kde.org

                        • No Screensaver option is provided. This is available in KDE 4.12 and provides many pleasurable visual experiences, particularly for my 2 year old grandson. I believe that there are many who do not use this feature, but there are some, including me, who do.
                        You will have to try out xscreensaver, as Plasma won't use xorg based screensavers, and a new system for Wayland is to be written.

                      • More and improved Widgets are needed. For example, the analogue clock does not provide the addition of multiple time zones. Also,the widgets on the desktop have their options bar always on the right side. This limits the right edge extremities for locating widgets and oddly enough, even the left edge side movement is limited.
                      • yes, many widgets are still early, feature-wise, but that is changing. For the positioning, I don't recall seeing that behaviour before, but it is true. Another trip to bugs.kde.org.

                      • Muon reports that plasma-widget-yawp is not installable.
                      • Many older plasma widgets will have to be re-written for plasma 5, this may take some time until the creators (many of them third-party, mind you) jump on the wagon here.

                      • KDE Partition Manager does not work. It gives the error[ATTACH=CONFIG]5821[/ATTACH]
                      • That looks to be a bug in the menu entry - it works by typing 'partititonmanager' in an alt-f2 box or the terminal. Another trip to bugs.kde.org (or is it launcchpad for this one??

                      • NVIDIA Fails to Load. The command
                        Code:
                        [FONT=monospace][COLOR=#000000]:~$ grep -i nv /var/log/syslog[/COLOR][/FONT]
                        gives the output
                        Code:
                        Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    4.266811] nouveau  [  DEVICE][0000:01:00.0] Chipset: GF108 (NVC1) 
                        Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    4.266812] nouveau  [  DEVICE][0000:01:00.0] Family : NVC0 
                        Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.122757] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. 
                        Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.125239] nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or  required key missing - tainting k
                        ernel 
                        Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128870] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1 device(s). 
                        Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128872] NVRM: This can occur when a driver such as:  
                        Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128872] NVRM: nouveau, rivafb, nvidiafb or rivatv  
                        Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128872] NVRM: was loaded and obtained ownership of the NVIDIA device(s). 
                        Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128875] NVRM: Try unloading the conflicting kernel module (and/or 
                        Feb 24 16:32:55 basil kernel: [    5.128875] NVRM: reconfigure
                        I look forward to having these problems fixed and I would be interested to know if others have experienced any other problems and if the list I have given has been experienced by others.
                      • This is a kernel/driver issue, happens often during pre-release, usually fixed by Ubuntu before it gets too late.
                        Last edited by claydoh; Feb 24, 2015, 12:46 PM.

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                          #28
                          I always find that bugs.kde.org deal with specific "bugs" and there is no way of adding a wish-list. There are also quite a few hoops to jump through to file a bug report. If you know how to submit a wish-list, I would be willing to give it a go. I just hope that those involved in the development of Vivid look at these threads to see what problems users are having.

                          I for one do not want to see an exodus from KDE with the release of the next version.

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                            #29
                            I think one files a bug, perhaps after posting it, one can edit the "importance" as wishlist? I can edit any of mine to do so.

                            There will always be some exodus, those who cannot live without a thing, but they can use KDE 4 for a bit still, just not current Kubuntu. It will be much less than the KDE3 to4 or the gnome2-gnome3 times. Many will wait it out, a few will be butt holes I am sure.

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                              #30
                              Originally posted by claydoh View Post
                              I think one files a bug, perhaps after posting it, one can edit the "importance" as wishlist? I can edit any of mine to do so.
                              Thanks for your guidance on this issue. I have filed a bug report for "Partition Manager" when launched from K Application Menu and I used my post number to this URL as a pointer to the problem. I will wait and see what response I get.

                              BTW, I now have my keyboard working correctly and I have edited my post to reflect this.

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