[SOLVED] Where is the Printer utility?

[Snowhog]

Hardy Heron, KDE 4.1.00

The expected Printer utility is not present in K Menu > Computer > System Settings. In fact, I can't find the utility anywhere. How is one supposed to setup ones printer without the utility?

[Rog131]

Re: Where is the Printer utility?

Konqueror (browser): http://localhost:631/ ?

[Snowhog]

Re: Where is the Printer utility?

Found this post about running kcmshell printers. Okay, did that. It fails at the 'test printer' phase (can't create temporary) and ultimately on the save settings. A note: kcmshell printers is running the KDE3 installation of the utility. A locate kcmshell finds that there is a KDE4 version located at /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kcmshell4 but when accessing it via Alt+F2, either with the full path or just with kcmshell4 printers it does nothing. No application pops up, nothing.

So I'm back to my question: How is one supposed to install a printer in KDE 4.1.00? And, I also attempted to connect to CUPS with through Konqueror with http://localhost:631/ and get:

[Rog131]

Re: Where is the Printer utility?

Is there difference if you are root (kdesudo konqueror) ?

Is Cups running ? > Connection Refused http://localhost:631/


Here with the Intrepid (normal user):

[Snowhog]

Re: Where is the Printer utility?

No difference. Ran a session of Konqueror as root and still get the same error. Something to note, is that running kcmshell4 --list | awk '{ print $1 }' shows the modules that can be accessed, and printers isn't among them:

cookies
crypto
language
kcmperformance
emoticons
desktoppath
kcmhistory
kwindecoration
kwinrules
kwincompositing
ebrowsing
kwinoptions
kwalletconfig
kcm_knetworkconfmodule
khtml_java_js
audiocd
kcmview1394
filebrowser
desktop
kcmsolidproc
spellchecking
display
netpref
fontinst
khtml_behavior
kcm_nepomuk
kcmkded
keyboard
clock
colors
mouse
kcm_solid
autostart
thinkpad
khtml_plugins
cache
kvaio
kcmsmserver
khtml_filter
kcmcss
componentchooser
energy
style
khtml_general
keyboard_layout
proxy
kcm_kdnssd
lanbrowser
ksplashthememgr
useragent
kcmlaunch
kcmnotify
bell
kcm_phonon
libkcddb
fonts
khtml_fonts
khotkeys
kcmdolphin
filetypes
kdm
keys
kcmaccess
icons
screensaver
kamera

[dibl]

Re: Where is the Printer utility?

In KDE 4.1 for Intrepid, there is a "Printing" menu item in "System". However it crashed when I just now attempted to open it, so I'm not sure what it actually is. There's also a "HPLip Toolbox" which does me very little good with my Epson C84. :P

But the localhost:631 approach worked when I needed to set up my printer -- there were zero hiccups.

[Snowhog]

Re: Where is the Printer utility?

cat /var/log/dmesg | grep lp
[ 0.000000] On node 0 totalpages: 259728
[ 17.518280] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3203.90 BogoMIPS (lpj=6407809)
[ 18.041470] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3200.20 BogoMIPS (lpj=6400401)
[ 18.343374] PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps,post a report
[ 41.892553] usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x1309 pid 0xF002
[ 41.892659] usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp
[ 43.785649] lp: driver loaded but no devices found

Also noticed that I can access localhost:631/ through Konqueror if I do so immediately after booting, but once the CUPS web interface shows, I can't do anything with it - says that there is/was a server timeout or such. Closing the tab and attempting to reaccess localhost:631/ results in the access denied error I've already posted.

[Snowhog]

Re: Where is the Printer utility?

Okay, access CUPS via the browser is now working. Haven't a clue why. I had, after I began this saga, and while CUPS access via the browser was not working, installed foomatic-gui. It just wouldn't run (at least, I couldn't figure out how to do so if it could), so uninstalled it. So at least now, I can access CUPS via the browser.

I've tried repeatedly to add my printer. It's successful - at least CUPS says so, but I can't print, not even a test page from CUPS. For those who might see something, this is my cupsd.conf file (I've already deleted the printer via CUPS):

LogLevel warning
SystemGroup lpadmin
# Only listen for connections from the local machine.
Listen localhost:631
Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
# Disable printer sharing and shared printers.
Browsing Off
DefaultAuthType Basic
<Location />
# Restrict access to the server...
Order allow,deny
</Location>
<Location /admin>
# Restrict access to the admin pages...
Order allow,deny
</Location>
<Location /admin/conf>
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
# Restrict access to the configuration files...
Order allow,deny
</Location>
<Policy default>
<Limit Send-Document Send-URI Hold-Job Release-Job Restart-Job Purge-Jobs Set-Job-Attributes Create-Job-
Subscription Renew-Subscription Cancel-Subscription Get-Notifications Reprocess-Job Cancel-Current-Job Suspend-
Current-Job Resume-Job CUPS-Move-Job>
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
</Limit>
<Limit CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer CUPS-Delete-Printer CUPS-Add-Modify-Class CUPS-Delete-Class CUPS-Set-Default>
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
</Limit>
<Limit Pause-Printer Resume-Printer Enable-Printer Disable-Printer Pause-Printer-After-Current-Job Hold-New-Jobs
Release-Held-New-Jobs Deactivate-Printer Activate-Printer Restart-Printer Shutdown-Printer Startup-Printer Promote-Job
Schedule-Job-After CUPS-Accept-Jobs CUPS-Reject-Jobs>
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
</Limit>
<Limit CUPS-Authenticate-Job>
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
</Limit>
<Limit All>
Order deny,allow
</Limit>
# Only the owner or an administrator can cancel a job...
<Limit Cancel-Job>
Order deny,allow
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
</Limit>
</Policy>

[Snowhog]

Re: Where is the Printer utility?

Got it!

Okay, here's the deal. I said to self, "Self, your printer is working in HH KDE 3.5.9. Boot into it and access CUPS via the browser and look at how it is set up." Duhh!!! So, I did. Looked at the printer settings and saw the the Device URI was using hal:/// so made a snapshot and rebooted back into HH KDE 4.1. Accessed CUPS and added a printer and selected Unknown for the Device, selected my Manufacture (Panasonic) and the Model (KX-P4410) and that was it. Printer is added and works!! Just way to happy (do'n the Happy Dance).