Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]

[woodsmoke]

Re: Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]

Hi
when I hover i DO NOT get "click to safely remove device" all I get is

2 actions for this device
the available memory on a blue bar
Download Photos with Gwenview
Open with File Manager.

When I right click on the icon I do not get a safely remove.

woodsmoke

[woodsmoke]

Re: Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]



woodsmoke

[Snowhog]

Re: Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]

You click on the arrow icon in the upper-right corner. Try it. You'll do a Homer Simpson and say 'Doh!'

[woodsmoke]

Re: Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]

When I click on the arrow on the right the plasmoid darkens and at the bottom in small text it says:

Could not unmount the following device: HP v100w. One or more files on this device are open within an application.

There are no files that are open. I took the below image immediately that I inserted the stick. The same thing happens with a stick that has only music, one that has a mix of media, various brands of sticks including on that is an xd card in a plastic adapter and an external usb hard drive. It occurs in all of the different usb plugs on the machine.

Below that, when the down arrowwith horizontal line symbol is clicked one finds in even SMALLER type there is:

org:freedesktop Hal Device Volume NotMountedByHal: Device to unmount is not in /media/hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL.



So, since there are other threads on HAL not unmounting mainly back in 2007/08 I assume that it is a HAL problem.

If that is correct then there might be some command that those who are brave enough could put into the appropriate script/folder. I could do that and if it works then, for those that are not "script challenged" would have a fix.

There was one thread from 2010 about HAL being removed in Lucid, so again, dunno.

woodsmoke

[Snowhog]

Re: Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]

What version of KDE? Here, the behavior works as has been described.

Below you said "I cannot "safely remove" either a hard drive or a usb stick." Unless the 'hard drive' is a USB connected HD, you can't 'safely remove' it. Is the USB stick truely an external device that you are plugging into a USB port? By chance, have you made any changes to K > System Settings > Removable Devices ?

[oshunluvr]

Re: Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]

when it's "in use", type "mount" in a console. This should show you the mount location. Then try "fuser -m -u <mount location>". This should show you what is using the mount.

Another issue I've run across is a left-over mount location in /media that has root ownership. Then when you insert your thumb drive, it mounts to this location and you can't do anything with it.

With nothing plugged in and no cd in the drive, look in /media and see what's there.

[woodsmoke]

Re: Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]

Hi

for Snowhog:

It is the plain vanilla MM for Kubuntu with no changes except to add two widgits, temperature and cpu use, xmms2 and associated front ends and office apps.

Here is uname -a

Linux woodsmoke 2.6.35-23-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 24 11:55:36 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
KDE 4.5.1

as to the hard drive, yes it is a usb hard drive in an enclosure which I have used for about four years now as an external storage device.

As to K>system settings >removable devices, I have made absolutely no changes and it shows:

I find that the box for "enable automatic mounting of removable media is not ticked but that the sub items:

"only automatically mount removeable media
"mount all removeable media at login
"automatically mount removeable

all three of them ARE ticked.

It shows in the grayed box

Attached devices.
the usb pen drive
the hard drive for the OS(on the ribbon cable)

under disconnected devices there is nothing.

For oshunlover:

from mount:

/dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
none on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
none on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
none on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/sdf1 on /media/HP v100w type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000, shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush)

then from a copy and paste, there may be a spacing error:

woodsmoke@woodsmoke:~$ fuser -m -u <mount location>
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'

checking root/media it shows:

floppy
floppy0
HP v 100w
under general:
normal stuff and "Mounted on" /media/HP v100w
under permissions:
can view and modify content, under group, forbidden and other forbidden
under ownership; woodsmoke
normal stuff for information, preview, share

I have IDE cabled cdrom and a dvd rw drive

There is no "cd" shown, there is no dvd shown in the /media folder

When I place a cd in the tray no CD is shown in the /media folder

Also, there is nothing shown in the "/mnt" folder.

The DVD drive is not shown in the above cases also.

While waiting for comments, I'll try ticking the box on automounting.

woodsmoke

[woodsmoke]

Re: Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]

permutationally wise, there are at least 16 ( I think ) variations of the settings in the start/system setting/removeable devices

One of them gave a fleeting reference to the usb pen drive being in "fstab" but it appeared and disappeared very fast and the pen drive seemed to unmount, but then it also seemed that I may have just mistakenly ticked "hide usb yada yada"

So, it seems as if fiddling with the buttons in that folder didn't do anything.

woodsmoke

[woodsmoke]

Re: Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]

Please see above two posts.

Here is the content of /etc/fstab.

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
# for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
# devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
# / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=55771353-8ec2-4c5c-8677-c41f739dde03 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
# swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=c4d0457c-575f-4d87-86a0-c16987c792e0 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0

[oshunluvr]

Re: Kubuntu Yea! and light doen't go out on USB [SOLVED]

Sorry, I should have been more clear. try

fuser -m -u /media/HP

or

fuser -m -u /dev/sdf1

[woodsmoke]

usb pen drives now safely remove from within dolphin

Oshunlover, I tried your suggestion but it didn't seem to help, although combined with the following update it may have.

ANNOUNCEMENT:

I did an update and restart about an hour ago, Dec 8th about 1 am central time U.S.

I didn't notice until later that my usb pen/flash drives now unmount.

They do NOT unmound from the popup that is on the panel notifier. It still says it is in use, but from within dolphin WHEN The folders or files are still viewable within the pen drive, I can right click the title of the drive in dolphin and "safely remove" and it does so. This is with a FAT formatted drive and a Cruzer. When the safely remove is right clicked a box opens with all sorts of drive symbols and names in it and the one labled "memory stick drive" is underlined and when I click it everything happens as it should.

The single operation works with a FAT file system on the usb drive. With a Sandisk that still has the sandisk cruzer thing on it(which I do not use btw) then I have to do the operation twice. But the second time then truely turns the light off on the drive and the name disappears from the dolphin file system.

So...I certainly have not changed anything on the machine except fiddling with repos for xbmc so it must have been the update. I don't remember particularly what it was that was in the update, if someone can determine that then it should be some good feedback for the devs.

If this "sticks" then...one more reason that Kubuntu is ready for prime time...snark, snark, snark!

woodsmoke