Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

[ktech]

Which do you prefer and why?

[jankushka]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

kubuntuforums is my choice.
simple.
clean.
nice and straightforward layout.
threads are easy to follow with white and blue alternating with replies.
to me, it is also better organized with sections and stuff.
m2cts

ps:
and we're a friendlier community over here...

[grizzler]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

Ubuntu forums, but mainly for 'technical reasons'.

I don't like the 'black on blue' text used in this forum. It's often difficult to read (my eyesight isn't all that good...). Some forum software allows you to select a different theme, but apparently this one doesn't. At least I haven't been able to find where to set it.

For some reason the 'Show unread posts since last visit' function doesn't work for me. Even if I logged out after my previous visit, nine times out of ten it doesn't show any unread posts (and yes, there are some when I check manually).

Content wise it's ok, I guess. And the number of arrogant Linux fanbois isn't particularly high here either. I've witnessed some very nasty behaviour on the other forum.

Of course, I have a third choice: Ubuntu Forums NL. Actually (and probably not surprisingly) I prefer that one over the other two...

[GreyGeek]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

This forum.

Friendlier, and I am using Kubuntu.


There are so many posts over at the Ubuntu forum that your question can literally disappear within minutes, buried under a ton of subsequent posts.

My only complaint about this forum is that when one does a search and asks for the results to be by date, decending, it doesn't seem to make much of a difference ... recent posts are mixed in with posts months for years old, even though they generally tend to trend from newer to older.

[lmilano]

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I also prefer the friendliness here, but use both.

What really bothers me is to be hosted in a Windows 2003 server. This weekend we were down the whole weekend, and there wasn't even an explanation I could find in the forums web page. These things don't help the reputation of kubuntu:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...untuforums.net
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...untuforums.org

[GreyGeek]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

I first noticed Kubuntu was hosted on a Win2k3 server last April, a month after I installed Kubuntu Jaunty, when I got a "Service Unavailable" msg trying to access the forum. I didn't ask then but when it happened again this week end I did some research and discovered the forum had gone down several times since the forum was first begun. Running on Windows one can never be sure if the problem was an application problem or an OS problem, but my past experience has been that most problems on Windows machines are caused by the OS, and seldom the application.

The major reason why it has not been moved to a Linux host is because the individual who pays for the hosting service, "Open Source", is doing so out of his own pocket. Kubuntu is getting a free ride. He's been asked before and says he may look into changing to a Linux host, but says since it runs "ok most of the time" he's not inclined to change. Various folks have suggested putting up ads but most object to ads, even for Linux products. Others have suggested that posting access be restricted to paid membership, which I favor, and allowing anonymous users browsing rights only.

Just the idea that Kubuntu runs on a Windows 2003 server is an embarrassment and will be fodder for MS fanbois, just the way Linux fans point out that Microsoft has to use Linux for its download servers because Windows can't take the load without crashing. Netcraft shows that this server has been rebooted, on average, every two weeks. That's probably done because MS servers notoriously slow down the longer they've been running, and rebooting speeds them back up.

Besides, I am used to servers which do NOT crash or slow down, even after being up for 400 days.

[ktech]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

I agree about community unfriendliness. Also the moderation on ubuntuforums is bad there is an abuse of power by curtain mods especially old ones. The new one's do their duty quite well though!

[Telengard]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

As has already been said several times, I like the friendly atmosphere of KFN. I do not participate much at Ubuntuforums, but like to use it for research.

Thank you Open Source

Others have suggested that posting access be restricted to paid membership, which I favor, and allowing anonymous users browsing rights only.

Are you serious?

[Snowhog]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

I prefer Kubuntuforums. I have an account on Ubuntuforums, and have posted there - very infrequently. I find it (Ubuntuforums) 'too large' and impersonal. But, that is expected on a forum with SO many moderators and members (894,162 members, 60,767 active members). Ubuntu is also "mainstream" re: Official, and operates under some strict standards. Kubuntu on the other hand, being "bleeding edge" and outside of the mainstream, tends towards more open-mindedness of thought and expression of ideas - IMO.

I've found a lot of help here in KFN, especially when I first started out with Edgy Eft. I continue to participate here as it has a feel that appeals to me.

[lmilano]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

I think ads and a Linux server would be the ideal way. We want to support folks who can't afford a monthly fee for a forum (or don't have a credit card or PayPal account, which is not at all uncommon in many places). Another option is to see if we can keep the same forum software, all the same, just move to a Canonical server if they gracefully accept that.

[kevinc]

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I prefer Kubuntu forums - I use Kubuntu, it is more relevant and easier to find information, although there are some parts of the Ubuntu forums that have very useful information too. Obviously a lot more users means a bigger forum.

I agree with GreyGeek about this forum being hosted on W2k3 - what a surprise. A quick look revealed Debian, Ubuntu and others using Linux running Apache.

Perhaps there is a Kubuntu user who has the space to host the forum on Linux

[aged hippy]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

jankushka: kubuntuforums is my choice.
simple.
clean.
nice and straightforward layout.
threads are easy to follow with white and blue alternating with replies.
to me, it is also better organized with sections and stuff.

GreyGeek: Friendlier, and I am using Kubuntu.

There are so many posts over at the Ubuntu forum that your question can literally disappear within minutes, buried under a ton of subsequent posts.

Snowhog: I've found a lot of help here in KFN, especially when I first started out with Edgy Eft. I continue to participate here as it has a feel that appeals to me.

Telengard: Thank you Open Source


All of the above. (except i started with Feisty )

I must admit, i feel a bit of an interloper, being as the only OS i've booted into for the last fortnight is Mint 7 Main Edition... which uses Gnome. :P

[Snowhog]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

I must admit, i feel a bit of an interloper, being as the only OS i've booted into for the last fortnight is Mint 7 Main Edition... which uses Gnome. :P

You are forgiven this trespass.

[jankushka]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

kubuntuforums running on windoze is extremely embarrassing.

i don't fancy "paying membership" much.
actually, i don't like it one bit.
i agree we should be open to people who cannot afford to pay a monthly fee.

i don't like ads either, though.
it's one of the reasons i never complained about flash being broken in konqueror.
if nothing else i'd see fewer ads...

i reckon kubuntuforums deserve to run on a canonical server.

is it feasible?

ps:
btw, do your konquerors display the ubuntuforums login frame properly?
mine doesn't.
the input fields are all mingled...
and if it doesn't pass the konqueror test, then...
well, it's crap, isn't it?

[aged hippy]

Re: Ubuntu forums vs kubuntuforums

btw, do your konquerors display the ubuntuforums login frame properly?
mine doesn't.
the input fields are all mingled...
and if it doesn't pass the konqueror test, then...
well, it's crap, isn't it?

I've just tried it for the first time (i use Firefox 3.0.13) and it displayed (and i logged-in) flawlessly.

However, one caveat... i'm running Mint Main Edition with Gnome.... 8)

... so it may be crap with Kubuntu....

Edited to add:
My apologies... i could have sworn there was a "K" in front of ubuntuforums.