Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

[MatthewSchenker]

Re: Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

I appreciate that, and helpful people on these forums are what make it work as well as it does - otherwise it would be hopeless. I have no doubt that the remaining problems I have can be fixed and I may get around to it eventually, but that misses the point.

Like you, I had several questions getting started, and I agree that the forum is an absolute necessity. The community here has helped me numerous times get my machines running well. I think that's one of the great things about Kubuntu -- if you do experience problems, you have a friendly group of people who will spend the time walking you through the steps to get things working correctly.

A simple test is to take a clean system and install v7.10. Then configure a simple home network for 2-way file sharing (with Windows machines), share a local printer, set up a 2nd monitor at a different res (to be other than a clone), and mount a couple of drives. And do it without editing a text file or using a terminal window.

After a lot of effort, I did get print sharing working on my desktop/laptop. To be honest, I did so many things and changed so many settings, I don't even recall exactly what steps I did that got it working! However, it's documented in various posts here in the forum.

Regarding networking and file sharing: unfortunately, I have to agree with you. I've spent hours and hours trying to get networking and file sharing running on my desktop/laptop, and absolutely nothing works. I must have tried 10 different methods (each one described as "simple" and "easy"), to no avail.

For me, file sharing is the one issue that stands in the way of widespread acceptance of Linux. Let's admit it, Redmond has an edge on this one particular point. Of course, I'm confident this will change in the future, as there are several intelligent Linux developers working on the issue. But I will say it's dismaying at present.

There are many new features that are great in Linux, but some of them, in my opinion, take a lot of resources that might be spent elsewhere. For example, is Compiz and other eye candy anywhere near as important as file sharing and networking? I understand that there are different teams working on various elements, but overall it sends a message about priorities.

Bottom line for me is still this: I believe in Linux and open-source development, and I am not going back to Windows. But I really hope to see progress in the networking and file-sharing capabilities so we can see wider acceptance of Linux in the future.

[nilsA]

Re: Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

Code:

httpa://localhost:1000


Nothing happens - or I get into wikipedia or ...

The address should be 'https://localhost:10000'

Ah yes, there it is.

Now, the first thing I tried was changing Grub. It should boot from my second SCSI disk, but this did not work.

The idea looks fine - I'll keep it on my experimental PC and see what works and what not.

If you had a typo in your browser, is it working now? If the typo is in your post, that's a different story.

[Craigels39]

Re: Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

nilsA, a better way to edit GRUB is with the startupmanager program. You can install it with 'sudo aptitude install startupmanager'.

[nilsA]

Re: Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

nilsA, a better way to edit GRUB is with the startupmanager program. You can install it with 'sudo aptitude install startupmanager'.

I'll try that. Actually, though, I know how to do this editing the menu.list file. It's just that on that particular PC I am experimenting. I'm of the firm opinion that graphical tools should work. Period. Well, except the odd hardware incompatibility.

[nilsA]

Re: Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

After a lot of effort, I did get print sharing working on my desktop/laptop. To be honest, I did so many things and changed so many settings, I don't even recall exactly what steps I did that got it working! However, it's documented in various posts here in the forum.

The last two installs I have done, get this right. But yes, there are problems with certain hardware, for instance Canon I believe.

Regarding networking and file sharing: unfortunately, I have to agree with you. I've spent hours and hours trying to get networking and file sharing running on my desktop/laptop, and absolutely nothing works. I must have tried 10 different methods (each one described as "simple" and "easy"), to no avail.

If we are talking Samba here, the last install (a week ago) needed three additional lines in smb.conf, and one commented out. That's easy when you know what to put in and what to remove.

But, worse, I had to create the password file, and set the user and password from command line, in order to let the Windows PCs log in.

What I still have not figured out, is how to make the on-the-Kubuntu-PC printer available to my Windows PCs. I find "simple" explanations that are way beyond me. But I am working on it. For the time being, reboot into Windows ...

[MatthewSchenker]

Re: Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

What I still have not figured out, is how to make the on-the-Kubuntu-PC printer available to my Windows PCs. I find "simple" explanations that are way beyond me. But I am working on it. For the time being, reboot into Windows ...

I'm talking about two Kubuntu machines. I have a laptop and a desktop, both running Kubuntu, and I cannot get file sharing working. Oddly, it seems people have an easier time if they maintain at least one Windows PC on their network! Sounds like an area that needs to be addressed if we are going to make the claim that people can drop Windows in favor of Linux -- which I hope people do!

[Fintan]

Re: Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

Oddly, it seems people have an easier time if they maintain at least one Windows PC on their network! Sounds like an area that needs to be addressed if we are going to make the claim that people can drop Windows in favor of Linux -- which I hope people do!

Some reading:

http://kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/network/C/sharing.html

http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO.html

http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/Lin...etworking.html

http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_boo...trators_guide/

either way you are going to wwant to use NFS in a Linux environement

http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/

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[MatthewSchenker]

Re: Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

Fintan,
Yes, I know all about those documents! I've been through all of them, and more. Still, file sharing does not work.

Of course, this moring, I am in a much more desperate situation...
Kubuntu won't recognize my scanner (http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...1822#msg111822)
And my task bar keeps disappearing (http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...1637#msg111637)

Matt

[Fintan]

Re: Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

Well I can't help you more than to repeat: use NFS.

As for your scanner I read the post and think fredh has pointed you in the right direction. I also agree with his point about epson.

Now the panel is a tricky one. I don't know why it is doing that.

I can only guess that for some reason there is a conflict and some file in your .kde is corrupted.

There is a radical solution for this:
-Backup your emails, addresses, calenders, etc, for kontact and for configs for konqueror., etc. in your ./kde/share/apps/ to something like mybackupskde
-reboot into recovery mode and navigate to /home/username. Delete .kde and reboot into your user.
./kde will be regenerated.

Only do this if nothing else helps.

I don't use hiding as I find no point in it but if there is a bug leave it unhidden and che3ck launchpad:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/

for eventual bugs.

I hope that helps

[nilsA]

Re: Kubuntu makes me Kfurious

What I still have not figured out, is how to make the on-the-Kubuntu-PC printer available to my Windows PCs. I find "simple" explanations that are way beyond me. But I am working on it. For the time being, reboot into Windows ...

I'm talking about two Kubuntu machines. I have a laptop and a desktop, both running Kubuntu, and I cannot get file sharing working. Oddly, it seems people have an easier time if they maintain at least one Windows PC on their network! Sounds like an area that needs to be addressed if we are going to make the claim that people can drop Windows in favor of Linux -- which I hope people do!

You could - if the point is just to get a network - use Samba. I have 3 Kubuntu and up to 5 Windows PCs living happily toghether - except the printer problem. I can print from Kubuntu to Windows, but not the other way or Kubuntu - Kubuntu. I kinow it's not the elegant way, but it works.