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    #16
    Originally posted by mrboese View Post
    I can only temporarily work around it by running:

    Code:
    pactl load-module module-detect
    (Which is probably the less evil brother of the "just kill Pulse" method)

    There is definitively something strange going on here ...
    I tried the pactl command you preferred and found that it gave 8 sound options for my system. They did not fit into the window for audio as shown below.
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    Alternately, the above kill option, which I use and I believe is more appropriate for the current state of PulseAudio, gives the following on my system.
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    Basically there is no duplication of sound devices such as "Built-in Audio Analogue Stereo" when using the pactl command.

    So for those sticking with Groovy, they have two options to fix the sound.

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      #17
      I said the same problem where sound was only showing up as Digital Output S/PDIF etc.

      I ended up removing pipewire. After a reboot things looked normal again. I tried reinstalling pipewire and everything broke again... so I just assumed it was a pipewire bug?

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        #18
        In my case (Sony VAIO Laptop) the microphone is not recognized. It works o.k. under 20.04. It seems to me that Audio hardly ever works "just out of the box" when installing a new release of the OS.

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          #19
          Originally posted by hstoellinger View Post
          In my case (Sony VAIO Laptop) the microphone is not recognized. It works o.k. under 20.04. It seems to me that Audio hardly ever works "just out of the box" when installing a new release of the OS.
          Have you tried the approach in #11 above. That is, open Kate and add the contents
          Code:
          [Desktop Entry]
          Comment[en_AU]=
          Comment[kill pulseaudio and remove its config]=
          Exec=killall pulseaudio; pulseaudio -k  ; rm -r ~/.config/pulse/*
          Then save this file in your home directory .config/autostart with a name such as "pulse_restart.desktop".

          You can always change the en_AU to whatever you want. On reboot you should find that you have audio icons in the volume control listed. When you click on the volume settings for the speakers, you will hear a pop sound when you adjust the speaker which is working.

          Hope this works for you.

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            #20
            Thanks to "Down Under"... The suggestion works!
            Greetings from Austria (we sometimes get mistaken for Australia - especially by the Yanks! No Kangaroos here, except in some zoos!)

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              #21
              Originally posted by bingus View Post
              I said the same problem where sound was only showing up as Digital Output S/PDIF etc.

              I ended up removing pipewire. After a reboot things looked normal again. I tried reinstalling pipewire and everything broke again... so I just assumed it was a pipewire bug?
              Thank you! Removing pipewire solved it.

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                #22
                Originally posted by hstoellinger View Post
                Thanks to "Down Under"... The suggestion works!
                Greetings from Austria (we sometimes get mistaken for Australia - especially by the Yanks! No Kangaroos here, except in some zoos!)
                Interesting that Austria sometimes gets mail for Australia. I remember one occasion where mail from the UK to Australia went via Austria.

                It now appears that there are two solutions to the audio problem. The one that I gave you and the other is to remove "pipewire". I have tried removing pipewire and it gives exactly the same fix to the audio problem. So it is a matter as to which approach you and others prefer.

                I have been doing some searching to find out about pipewire and from what I have found, it is supposed to be compatible with pulseaudio and jack. As it is still being developed, I think the best approach is to remove pipewire rather than my approach to kill pulseaudio. I changed my view after reading the LWN article: https://lwn.net/Articles/813951/

                What I find interesting, is that I reported problems with Audio over a month ago at post #82 in https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...tu-20-10/page9. It only seems now that something is being done about fixing this problem. One can only hope that it is fixed by the time reviewers get to test Groovy. The fastest fix for release updates it to not install pipewire.
                Last edited by NoWorries; Oct 29, 2020, 04:25 AM.

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                  #23
                  Re-installed Kubuntu 20.10 from DVD /w network offline, thus no-updates.
                  Checked Audio to be set to Analog (not S/PIDF) and used Advanced Menu to test Left & Right Speakers, OK !
                  Noted "pipewire" was loaded, at this point. Killed pipewire & used Muon Pkg manager to remove pipewire.
                  Rebooted & retested Audio (Analog OK, no S/PIDF).
                  Connected to network & used Discover to update ALL software.
                  Retest Audio...still OK.
                  Looks like an update to pipewire may be what was causing the problem /w audio switching from Analog to S/PDIF and then not working.
                  So far, so good.
                  What will not work with pipewire removed ?

                  If you install Kubuntu 20.10 offlline, you may have a problem getting the Muon Pkg Manager to update.
                  If so just install the Synaptic Pkg Manager for Ubuntu from the web.
                  Synaptic and Muon appear to share similar configuration files.
                  So changing the config of one, may change the other.
                  Last edited by gh4wi; Oct 30, 2020, 06:04 AM. Reason: More info

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                    #24
                    Gonna chime in here with my own particularly weird problem. I had a similar audio failure after upgrading; the volume button had a line through it and clicking it said "No output or input devices found". Figuring it was just the kind of thing to be expected of a brand-new release, I shut down figuring it would be fixed in an update in a week or two. Today, I booted up again and installed all the updates it prompted me to, then restarted. And lo and behold, the audio was working again. So I played some Minecraft for about an hour, at which point the whole system suddenly crashed. Like, white screen with dots and dashes, no further hard drive activity. So I hard-rebooted...and the audio issues are back.

                    So tl;dr this randomly fixed itself and then randomly unfixed itself again, causes unknown. I don't know if I can provide any hardware specs since it probably isn't recognizing what hardware I have anyway.

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                      #25
                      Sort of the same issue as above. Upgraded from 20.04 to 20.10, and now when ever I reboot, I have no audio device. I can however go into pulseaudio control, select Analog Stereo Output, it activates, then I can select Analog Stereo Duplex again and I have sound.
                      The only other option is to unplug my usb dac and replug it. Using a Xonar U7 MKII.

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                        #26
                        In principle it is possible to select the pulse audio default output device using the pactl command, so a script run at startup could be a workaround. The names of the devices are unobvious and not human-friendly, however.
                        Regards, John Little

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                          #27
                          Just my 2 cents, I would recommend doing this instead of uninstalling pipewire:

                          sudo systemctl --global disable pipewire

                          I'm suffering the same issue and everytime I fix something I try not to uninstall or fiddle too much with system configs, since next update or upgrade will probably install those back and break my fix. Hopefully by just disabling it and updating later on we can just enable it back and let the update fix happen whenever that happens.

                          Cheers!

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                            #28
                            Hi

                            I have this motherboard:
                            Gigabyte Z370 AORUS ULTRA GAMING 2.0-OP

                            Code:
                            lspci
                            00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 8th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 07)
                            00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor PCIe Controller (x16) (rev 07)
                            00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/v6 / E3-1500 v5 / 6th/7th/8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model
                            00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family USB 3.0 xHCI Controller
                            00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH CSME HECI #1
                            00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH SATA controller [AHCI mode]
                            00:1b.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #17 (rev f0)
                            00:1b.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #19 (rev f0)
                            00:1b.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #21 (rev f0)
                            00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev f0)
                            00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #2 (rev f0)
                            00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #3 (rev f0)
                            00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f0)
                            00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #9 (rev f0)
                            00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Z370 Chipset LPC/eSPI Controller
                            00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family Power Management Controller
                            00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH HD Audio
                            00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family SMBus Controller
                            00:1f.6 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V
                            01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP102 [GeForce GTX 1080 Ti] (rev a1)
                            01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GP102 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)
                            03:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM2142 USB 3.1 Host Controller
                            04:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Intel Corporation Device 2522
                            When you start the system, there is no sound. "Gorilla" detects HDMI audio from the graphics card, and also detects surround sound but does not detect the microphone. It also detects the webcam, audio and video. Nothing sounds.

                            So, I type:

                            sudo alsa force-reload
                            pulseaudio --start

                            And I get it to sound, but the configuration is not as it should be.

                            With version 20.04 it worked perfectly.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by NoWorries View Post
                              I tried the pactl command you preferred and found that it gave 8 sound options for my system. They did not fit into the window for audio as shown below.
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]9093[/ATTACH]

                              Alternately, the above kill option, which I use and I believe is more appropriate for the current state of PulseAudio, gives the following on my system.
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]9094[/ATTACH]

                              Basically there is no duplication of sound devices such as "Built-in Audio Analogue Stereo" when using the pactl command.

                              So for those sticking with Groovy, they have two options to fix the sound.
                              How do you remove pipewire?

                              systemctl says there is not pipewire service

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                                #30
                                About the pipewire issue:

                                https://github.com/PipeWire/pipewire/blob/master/NEWS

                                If I type:

                                pipewire --version:

                                pipewire
                                Compiled with libpipewire 0.3.10
                                Linked with libpipewire 0.3.10

                                But there's pipewire 3.17:

                                "- PulseAudio server
                                - Pulse server now acquire the dbus name.
                                - Improvements in timing and compatibility with many apps.
                                - The stream-restore extension is now implemented so that
                                the event volume can be configured.
                                - Many stability fixes and improvements.
                                - Fix some issues with module-load/unload"

                                How to upgrade it?

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