Network Manager on 14.04 not an improvement

[TWPonKubuntu]

Running 14.04 via live CD (I'm not ready to do a full install to my HD), the "new", "not-improved" network manager will show a partial list of the wifi access points available.

For instance, I have 12 to 15 AP's in my immediate vicinity however, NM only shows 5.5 of them, the last one is cut in half on the display.

I would expect this to force a scroll bar on the left of the NM list, but it is not there.

There is no visible means to scroll through the list of available AP's.

I found that I could grab the top right corner NM's panel and drag/expand it to display more of the list, but that is not intuitive.

NOTE: NM under Ver. 13.04 "Raring" (my current OS), DOES show a scroll bar for long AP lists.

Does anyone else see this behavior for this version of Network Manager?

PS, NICE, the distribution includes a full Firefox installation IN the iso file. I didn't have to do a separate download and install. Good Idea!!!!

[kubicle]

The new plasma-nm widget is still a work in progress, and some parts of it are not up to par yet, IMO.

As far scrolling goes, you can actually scroll the list (mouse wheel on the list will scroll), but I agree that there should also be scrollbar...to give a visual indication that there is "something to scroll", and for people that don't have a mouse wheel to scroll with.

[TWPonKubuntu]

Actually, I have a scroll wheel, never bothered to use it... oops.
Thanks for the confirmation on my observation.

I also note that the NM panel background is semi-transparent, which makes reading NM just that much harder, if there is text behind the popup panel.

I'm trying to find the version number for the Network Manager used with 14.04.
This is shown on my Raring (13.04) Network Management Settings installation but I can't see it displayed anywhere onscreen under 14.04.
I'll have to dig into the installation disk files.

{Edit} Trusty, 14.04, Plasma-nm version 0.9.3.2

[apachelogger]

Report a bug please.

https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?p...&format=guided

[TWPonKubuntu]

I do not have a "disposable" email to use for the unprotected bug tracking system.
Nor do I wish to create one solely for this purpose.
Please feel free to verify my Original post results and file a bug report.

[EDIT] It appears that I already have such an account on kde bugs, I'll file the report.

[EDIT -2] My password is not being accepted, hence not report gets filed until this gets resolved...

[EDIT -3] It appears that you can't get there from here. I'm unable to send a password update request to the kde debug sysadmin.
Does anyone know how to contact them, without having an working account on the system?

[kubicle]

You can also drop some feedback on the dev blogs (doesn't exclude a bug report), the devs blog fairly actively on the development and do ask for feedback:
http://user-prompt.com/knetworkmanag...inishing-line/

[TWPonKubuntu]

You can also drop some feedback on the dev blogs (doesn't exclude a bug report), the devs blog fairly actively on the development and do ask for feedback:
http://user-prompt.com/knetworkmanag...inishing-line/

Thanks for the link.

[apachelogger]

[EDIT -3] It appears that you can't get there from here. I'm unable to send a password update request to the kde debug sysadmin.
Does anyone know how to contact them, without having an working account on the system?

You can always stop by in #kde-sysadmin on irc.freenode.net, they are farely responsive there.

[TWPonKubuntu]

You can always stop by in #kde-sysadmin on irc.freenode.net, they are farely responsive there.

Thank you!

[GreyGeek]

I installed Trusty Tahr last night and have spent a few hours playing and configuring.
All in all, KDE 12.1 is awesome!!!!
I like the new network manager. IMO, it is better configured than the previous version and more intuitive.

Tahr is VERY fast on the boot-up and rather quick on the shutdown as well. I like the 3.13 kernel. I left 12.04 for a short sojurn with KWheezy because 12.04 lost the ability to drive my wifi chip. That ability didn't return until the 3.9 kernel. I think a quicker KDE and kernel is causing my PC to run cooler. With 12,04 my core temp averaged around 115 and steadily crept up to around 120-125F. Right now Tahr is idling around 100F +- 5F, as I type.

For an Alpha Tahr is very polished.

[TWPonKubuntu]

...I like the new network manager...

I'm testing the 14.04 beta 1 as of last night.
I miss the dynamic graph of data transfer rates, which was in Networkmanager prior to 14.04. It told me a lot about the current state of my connection.
If it is still available, the location of this graph is not intuitive, meaning I can't find it after several minutes of mousing around in Networkmanager...
Yes, there is a widget that will show this data on my desktop. It's a much smaller graph and hard to read.

[Snowhog]

Click the Networkmanger icon in the System Tray, then click on your connection. This brings up the graph and also the button to Disconnect if one desires.

[TWPonKubuntu]

Click the Networkmanger icon in the System Tray, then click on your connection. This brings up the graph and also the button to Disconnect if one desires.

Ah, the software for the graph must only work (show a graph) when my net connection is complete.
thanks

[GreyGeek]

Here is what mine shows. After clicking on the system tray wifi "fan" the following shows up:


Clicking on the icon just left of the wrench (clipboard?) shows the following, which has "Details" selected.


Clicking on "Speed" shows the following graph:

All in all, pretty neat and nifty!

[GreyGeek]

..... I'd love to have a better way to search for elusive SSID's, like a scan button. .

In the old system there was a "scan" button which would give a graphical display of nearby APs, in concentric rings according to signal strength. Sometimes AP icons were overlapping and difficult to select, so one manually entered the SSID.

In the new manager one clicks on the Wrench icon at the top of the AP display and opens a Connection dialog. Under the "Wireless" tab there is a dropdown combo box with the label "SSID:".
Clicking on that produced a list of APs with pertinent details. A LOT easier to use. Of course, one can always use the iw command, or Kismet or nmap...

By the way, in the Connection editor, when one clicks "Add" it gives 8 hardware options, 3 virtual and 7 VPN options to choose from. Never saw that before.