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    #61
    SteveRiley's post #54 got me curious, so I cloned an existing Saucy VM, and changed /etc/apt/sources.list to all the devel stuff:

    Code:
    deb http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/ devel main restricted multiverse universe
    deb-src http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/ devel restricted main multiverse universe 
    
    deb http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/ devel-updates main restricted multiverse universe
    deb-src http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/ devel-updates restricted main multiverse universe 
    
    deb http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/ devel-backports main restricted universe multiverse 
    deb-src http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/ devel-backports main restricted universe multiverse 
    
    deb http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/ devel-security main restricted multiverse universe
    deb-src http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/ devel-security restricted main multiverse universe 
    
    # deb http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/ devel-proposed restricted main universe multiverse 
    # deb-src http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/ devel-proposed restricted main universe multiverse
    As you can see, I haven't pulled the trigger on 'proposed' yet.

    After an aptitude update I got these warnings:

    Code:
    W: Conflicting distribution: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu devel Release (expected devel but got saucy)
    W: Conflicting distribution: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu devel-updates Release (expected devel-updates but got saucy)
    W: Conflicting distribution: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu devel-backports Release (expected devel-backports but got saucy)
    W: Conflicting distribution: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu devel-security Release (expected devel-security but got saucy)
    But everything seems to be updating fine.

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      #62
      Originally posted by life0riley View Post
      They are probably using VirtualBox to run a virtual instances of their system as a guest inside their host system. You could potentially run multiple OS's at the same time depending on your resources. The nice thing is you can do anything to the guest without changing anything on the host.

      Here is a fresh install of a raring guest inside my precise host.
      Where did you get the wallpaper? I'd like to get it myself.
      Windows no longer obstructs my view.
      Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
      "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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        #63
        Originally posted by Snowhog View Post
        Where did you get the wallpaper? I'd like to get it myself.
        http://www.crestock.com/uploads/blog...-1920x1200.jpg
        sigpic

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          #64
          Originally posted by Snowhog View Post
          Where did you get the wallpaper? I'd like to get it myself.
          google nasa earth, then select Images

          edit: Or, just use the link provided
          Last edited by Buddlespit; Sep 21, 2013, 11:29 AM.
          I do not personally use Kubuntu, but I'm the tech support for my daughter who does.

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            #65
            Originally posted by life0riley View Post
            They are probably using VirtualBox to run a virtual instances of their system as a guest inside their host system. You could potentially run multiple OS's at the same time depending on your resources. The nice thing is you can do anything to the guest without changing anything on the host.
            Yep, got all that, was just wondering if it was possible to 'reboot' a 'virtual OS', that's all, it's all good bro, love that wallpaper too, got me a copy.

            Don't know if you can read this light grey whispering, lol, but I play dumb because I'm getting lazy in my old age, shhhhh.

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              #66
              Originally posted by tek_heretik View Post
              Don't know if you can read this light grey whispering, lol, but I play dumb because I'm getting lazy in my old age, shhhhh.
              Sometimes it's difficult for us tell if you're really just playing.

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                #67
                Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post
                Sometimes it's difficult for us tell if you're really just playing.
                Oh, yer baaaaaaaaaad Steve, real bad, lol.

                Edit: I think I do alright for somebody with no formal computer related education, you know 'that guy' that can fix anything and answer tech questions in your 'hood, well that's me, and most likely a lot of you, you just get paid money for it, and probably lots of it, so excuse me if I don't remember every single command that passes under my nose.

                See that green bar to the left? I pay YOU guys because I'm lazy.
                Last edited by tek_heretik; Sep 21, 2013, 11:39 PM. Reason: Added rant

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                  #68
                  Nice idea to add the development database to your repository in the hope that you can have a "rolling release" of Kubuntu, but by doing this all you will be doing is rolling on to the next development of Kubuntu. A rolling release distro is one thatt pushes the latest stable version of packages to the end user which is what Arch does. If by adding the development branch all your doing is keeping Kubuntu at the Alpha/Beta stage. It will never be a stable system. Plus you will have issues of breakages and may need to download nightly builds all the time.

                  It would be a lot of hard work just to have a "rolling release"

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                    #69
                    Well, yesterday, I messed up with my experiment on my Toshiba to get 13.10 as a 'rolling release'. Long story short, I managed to remove most of the system. Didn't intend to, but....

                    Even us 'veterans' can and do, on occasion, make mistakes just like a newbie!

                    So, I downloaded the latest 32-bit daily build of 13.10 for i386 and formatted the partitions on the Toshiba and did a fresh install. I finished with my customizing this morning. It's very stable. I'm using these repositories:
                    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy main restricted
                    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-updates main restricted
                    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy universe
                    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-updates universe
                    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy multiverse
                    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-updates multiverse
                    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
                    deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu saucy-security main restricted
                    deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu saucy-security universe
                    deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu saucy-security multiverse
                    deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partner
                    deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu saucy main
                    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu saucy main
                    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu saucy main
                    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu saucy main
                    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ppa/ubuntu saucy main
                    Last edited by Snowhog; Sep 22, 2013, 01:05 PM.
                    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                      #70
                      Snowhog:

                      Even us 'veterans' can and do, on occasion, make mistakes just like a newbie!
                      Yeah. I dd'd the blank drive onto the one I wanted to save once. Trashed the data good and proper..... Fortunately, I had an earlier backup, so only lost some of the more recent data.

                      Frank.
                      Linux: Powerful, open, elegant. Its all I use.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by NickStone View Post
                        Nice idea to add the development database to your repository in the hope that you can have a "rolling release" of Kubuntu, but by doing this all you will be doing is rolling on to the next development of Kubuntu. A rolling release distro is one thatt pushes the latest stable version of packages to the end user which is what Arch does. If by adding the development branch all your doing is keeping Kubuntu at the Alpha/Beta stage. It will never be a stable system. Plus you will have issues of breakages and may need to download nightly builds all the time.
                        The way it works now is that all development and testing occurs in the -proposed pocket. Once certain tests have passed, the packages are pushed to the release pocket. I would imagine that running a system as we're describing here wouldn't be maintenance-free, of course, but it probably is sufficiently usable to approximate a "rolling" style by skilled users.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Frank616 View Post
                          I dd'd the blank drive onto the one I wanted to save once. Trashed the data good and proper.....
                          dd : Data Destroyer

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                            #73
                            Sorry for the late responses, been off the grid for a week or so

                            Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post
                            So you're simply changing to the next release the moment the archives open.
                            Yes. When the archives open the upgrades start to push in at a moderate rate...so there is no huge one-time upgrade if you hop in from the get-go.

                            Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post
                            How many cycles have elapsed since you last built from the ground up?
                            Can't remember, but it's been at least 3 years (or six cycles)

                            Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post
                            Ooh, that's nice

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                              #74
                              OK, since 13.10 is officially "out" time to get this thread back to it's roots (oshun roles eyes at thread-jackers )...

                              Is there any obvious reason to upgrade at this point? I've been ignoring the widget-panel-NAG-button to upgrade but haven't removed it completely yet.

                              I realize this is often a personal choice - to upgrade or not. Currently, I'm busy with other projects (like setting up a home built dvr/media server and client) so the desire to upgrade is at an all-time low. I've skipped an upgrade in the past and survived so I may just leave well-enough alone. On another personal note, as we'll be moving to North Carolina next summer, I doubt I'll be embracing 14.04 either. Seems I might end up waiting for the mir-vs.-wayland dust to settle or just move to Sid and forget this roller-coaster.

                              Comments?

                              Please Read Me

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                                Is there any obvious reason to upgrade at this point?
                                Featurewise...I guess no, if you're "happy" with 13.04.

                                The most obvious reason to upgrade non-LTS releases is the shortened support cycle (9 months), which means 13.04 will reach EOL on January, 2014.

                                If you're pondering Sid, you might as well go to ubuntu devel (of course there is nothing wrong in switching to Sid, either).

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