Why Upgrade? Getting tired...

[Qqmike]

richb, wrong; I mean right. It does get down to being happy. In your case, you are not happy unless you are flirting with the bleeding edge/disaster/progress/innovation! ;-)

[SteveRiley]

Geez, feels like I've wandered into old-fart land here. I'm gonna stomp on all y'all's lawns!

TBH, the every-six-month hold-yer-nose routine is becoming tiresome. I wish Debian's CUT (Constantly Usable Testing) idea had taken off -- alas, it hasn't. A high-quality, continuously-upgraded distro would be aweseome. It would also seriously cut down on the number of hyphenated phrases I have to type in this post.

[life0riley]

Geez, feels like I've wandered into old-fart land here. I'm gonna stomp on all y'all's lawns!

TBH, the every-six-month hold-yer-nose routine is becoming tiresome. I wish Debian's CUT (Constantly Usable Testing) idea had taken off -- alas, it hasn't. A high-quality, continuously-upgraded distro would be aweseome. It would also seriously cut down on the number of hyphenated phrases I have to type in this post.

Well, this is the first time I've been grouped with the old-farts! I knew this day was coming.

A continuously-upgraded distro would be awesome, but not for my host. I don't want to hit the update button and find myself spending hours putting my main system back together. I usually set a weekend aside if I'm going to install a new ditro on my host.

[richb]

Qqmike, Nice twist.

[NickStone]

A continuously-upgraded distro would be awesome,...

There's one already. It's called Arch. Just use Arch if you want a "continuously upgraded distro". Or if you don't like Arch's install method then use Manjaro.

[oshunluvr]

It would also seriously cut down on the number of hyphenated phrases I have to type in this post.

Chortle...

Hey, who's an old fart

[dibl]

I also found the every-six-month upgrade kubuki dance fatiguing -- especially when it turned out the new version was not often as stable as the prior version, initially, and needed a further six weeks of bug fixes to settle down.

A continuously-upgraded distro would be awesome ..

Well, how about an upgrade every six hours?

;-)

That's what we get with a Debian unstable distro, such as siduction.

[kubicle]

I also found the every-six-month upgrade kubuki dance fatiguing -- especially when it turned out the new version was not often as stable as the prior version, initially, and needed a further six weeks of bug fixes to settle down.



Well, how about an upgrade every six hours?

;-)

That's what we get with a Debian unstable distro, such as siduction.

You can get pretty much the same "rolling release" experience by running the devel versions of kubuntu, constant upgrades from one repo...and no 6-month large upgrade hassle (although one has to change repos twice a year).

Not the best choice for everyone of course, but since we're talking debian unstable and other bleeding edges it's not really different. Now that everything goes through proposed before landing in the devel repos, packaging bugs are very rare (software bugs are still possible, but that's the same with pretty much all "unstable" distros).

[SteveRiley]

There's one already. It's called Arch.

Yep, got Arch on another partition. But I am so ingrained into the Debian/Ubuntu way that change is painful (now who's being an old fart?). Considering one example, I can make dpkg sing exquisitely beautiful oratorios. But I can barely honk a note with pacman.

Even Debian could use more refinement. Compare update-notifier-common between Debian and Ubuntu. Debian's package configuration provides only the barest essentials for getting the thing installed. If you want it to actually do anything useful -- oh, say, notify you upon login that updates are available -- you have to do the work yourself. Ubuntu's package configuration includes several scripts that set this up for you during installation. Maybe I'm just weird, but why wouldn't anyone want update-notifier to, well, notify you?

You can get pretty much the same "rolling release" experience by running the devel versions of kubuntu, constant upgrades from one repo...and no 6-month large upgrade hassle (although one has to change repos twice a year).

Can I take a peek at your /etc/apt/sources.list and the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?

[Frank616]

Steve:

A high-quality, continuously-upgraded distro would be aweseome. I

Isn't that what KDE5 is supposed to be? A rolling update rather than a huge 'dump it all on them at once' update? I realize it is not a distro, but could this be where things are heading?

I don't mind the 6 monthly thing. I just don't use it unless I have to. It does provide a window on where things are going, which is fine by me. It also offers a 'playground' for those interested in trying out the latest and greatest. Such ones don't have to actually use the interim releases. They can stick with the more stable one, but just 'play' with the new one -- if they have the time. I usually don't have the time, but I am glad that others do.

Frank.

[kubicle]

Can I take a peek at your /etc/apt/sources.list and the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy main restricted universe multiverse

Is basically all one needs, I do actually have a few 3rd party repos and the source repo in there, but these are disabled by default (and only enabled when I actually need them).

Having ubuntu set up a "devel" pointer to the current development version would remove the need to edit the repo when a version is released, but to do that every six months isn't really a big deal for me...although I'm notoriously lazy and have pondered automating the task with a cronjob (which is of course absolutely ridiculous...the effort needed to script it compared to the five seconds needed every 6 months to do it manually...and even less with a nice alias...would mean I'd get ahead sometime around 2078)

[jpenguin]

There's one already. It's called Arch. Just use Arch if you want a "continuously upgraded distro". Or if you don't like Arch's install method then use Manjaro.

Manjora is a little more stable than Arch too

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[tek_heretik]

Geez, feels like I've wandered into old-fart land here. I'm gonna stomp on all y'all's lawns!

Drugstore reading glasses...check
Walker...check
Prune juice...check
Enable every Accessibility feature known to man...check

Now get off my lawn ya dang whipper-snapper, and take yer new-fangled Arch based distro with ya, lol
Hyphenated phrase in post...check

[SteveRiley]

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy main restricted universe multiverse

So you're simply changing to the next release the moment the archives open. Simple, elegant. How many cycles have elapsed since you last built from the ground up?

[Snowhog]

I'm on Raring, and these are my repositories:

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates main restricted
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring universe
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates universe
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring multiverse
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates multiverse
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-security main restricted
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-security universe
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-security multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu raring partner
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-proposed universe main restricted multiverse
deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ppa/ubuntu raring main

If I were kubicle, would I just add:

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy main restricted universe multiverse