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**oshunluvr** · Jun 18, 2011, 03:35 PM

Re: No touchpad found

It's not being loaded as a touchpad but a mouse I'd guess...

Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see how it's loaded. How you disable it will depend on if you want it off all the time or a toggle.

**leetuckert** · Jun 18, 2011, 03:45 PM

Re: No touchpad found

I'm trying to figure out how it is being loaded by looking the file. I can tell you this though; I want it disabled forever plus 1 day. Know how to do that?

Thanks..

**leetuckert** · Jun 18, 2011, 03:50 PM

Re: No touchpad found

Originally posted by Teunis

Are you sure there isn't a keyboard option to shut it down?

Otherwise there is a Touchpad management helper called synaptiks, see if it's installed (and compatible).

It looks as though there is a keyboard option to shut it down; however it doesn't work. Also, when I try the helper you suggest, I get the same error in a dialog box.

Thanks...

**oshunluvr** · Jun 18, 2011, 04:07 PM

Re: No touchpad found

Open a terminal and type:

xinput list

You'll see something like:

Code:

⎡ Virtual core pointer            id=2 [master pointer (3)]
⎜  ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer        id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜  ↳ Macintosh mouse button emulation     id=7 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜  ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint           id=8 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜  ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad        id=9 [slave pointer (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard             id=3  [master keyboard (2)]
  ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard        id=5  [slave keyboard (3)]
  ↳ Power Button               id=6  [slave keyboard (3)]
  ↳ Power Button               id=10  [slave keyboard (3)]
  ↳ HP HP Wireless Keyboard Kit        id=11  [slave keyboard (3)]

Note the id# of your touchpad (9 in the above example). Then type:

xinput list-props 9

This will put out a lot of stuff, but look for

Device Enabled (121): 0

Note the number there. Then type

xinput set-prop 9 121 0

and that should turn it off. If it works, add the above line into ~/.xinitrc or /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc or /etc/X11/Xsession

**leetuckert** · Jun 18, 2011, 04:23 PM

Re: No touchpad found

Originally posted by oshunluvr

Open a terminal and type:

xinput list

You'll see something like:

Code:

⎡ Virtual core pointer           id=2 [master pointer (3)]
⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer        id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ Macintosh mouse button emulation     id=7 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint          id=8 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad        id=9 [slave pointer (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard            id=3  [master keyboard (2)]
  ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard       id=5  [slave keyboard (3)]
  ↳ Power Button               id=6  [slave keyboard (3)]
  ↳ Power Button               id=10  [slave keyboard (3)]
  ↳ HP HP Wireless Keyboard Kit       id=11  [slave keyboard (3)]

Note the id# of your touchpad (9 in the above example). Then type:

xinput list-props 9

This will put out a lot of stuff, but look for

Device Enabled (121): 0

Note the number there. Then type

xinput set-prop 9 121 0

and that should turn it off. If it works, add the above line into ~/.xinitrc or /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc or /etc/X11/Xsession

Here is all that I can find related to a mouse:
[ 33.864] (II) config/udev: Adding input device ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint (/dev/input/event9)
[ 33.864] (**) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall"
[ 33.864] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint'
[ 33.864] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
[ 33.864] (**) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: always reports core events
[ 33.864] (**) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Device: "/dev/input/event9"
[ 33.870] (--) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Found 3 mouse buttons
[ 33.870] (--) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Found scroll wheel(s)
[ 33.870] (--) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Found relative axes
[ 33.870] (--) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Found x and y relative axes
[ 33.870] (II) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Configuring as mouse
[ 33.870] (II) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Adding scrollwheel support
[ 33.870] (**) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
[ 33.870] (**) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
[ 33.870] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input9/event9"
[ 33.870] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint" (type: MOUSE)
[ 33.870] (II) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: initialized for relative axes.
[ 33.870] (**) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[ 33.870] (**) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: (accel) acceleration profile 0
[ 33.870] (**) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[ 33.870] (**) ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[ 33.870] (II) config/udev: Adding input device ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint (/dev/input/mouse0)

I cannot find "Synaptics" anywhere in the file

**leetuckert** · Jun 18, 2011, 05:15 PM

Re: No touchpad found

Originally posted by Teunis

That ALPS thingy is what you're after, I would have imagined synaptiks recognising it.

(It's synaptiks)

So what is the output of oshunluvr's command:

Code:

xinput list

Additionally you could install and run hardinfo to get a nice graphical display of your harware.

Here is the output:
terry@Genesis:~/Qt$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint id=13 [slave pointer (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Video Bus id=8 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=9 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Sleep Button id=10 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Laptop_Integrated_Webcam_FHD id=11 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=12 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Dell WMI hotkeys id=14 [slave keyboard (3)]

**leetuckert** · Jun 18, 2011, 05:25 PM

Re: No touchpad found

Originally posted by Teunis

That ALPS thingy is what you're after, I would have imagined synaptiks recognising it.

(It's synaptiks)

So what is the output of oshunluvr's command:

Code:

xinput list

Additionally you could install and run hardinfo to get a nice graphical display of your harware.

If I execute the xinput set-props command on 13 126, it shuts down both the mouse (the button in the middle of the keyboard) and the touch pad. Looks like they are inextricably bound together.

**sithlord48** · Jun 18, 2011, 06:19 PM

Re: No touchpad found

if its the "eraser" kind of middle keyboard mouse you can take a pair of tweasers and pull the "eraser" stright up.it should come right off the electronic part and the remaining part is low enuff that you can't hit it.also some of them are hooked up to their own mobo connector so you might be able to just unhook it (and its buttons) if your able /willing to take the keyboard off.

**oshunluvr** · Jun 18, 2011, 06:23 PM

Re: No touchpad found

Your mouse didn't show up as a pointing device - odd.

Give a bit more hardware details - models and such and how is your mouse connected.

Try disconnecting your mouse, disabling the touchpad, then plugging the mouse in.

Also what's the output of ls /sys/class/input ?

Look for a file called touchpad.rules - it will have some numbers with that name too like 81-touchpad.rules either in /etc/udev/rules.d or /lib/udev/rules.d. Post the contents if you have it, also the input section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you have that file.

Also - look in System Settings > Input Devices and see if you mouse and touchpad are both listed.

**Snowhog** · Jun 18, 2011, 09:51 PM

Re: No touchpad found

Look at the package tpconfig. I installed it, and I'm a happy camper. What it does:

Description: touchpad device configuration utility
This package provides a program that can show or modify the configuration of
various touchpad devices, including the Synaptics
TouchPad and the ALPS Glidepad/Stickpointer.

I configured my touchpad to be 'disabled' when the mouse is plugged in. Works great.

**GreyGeek** · Jun 18, 2011, 10:04 PM

Re: No touchpad found

The program you need is "synclient". I used a script to turn the touchpad off when KDE started up. I put it in the System Settings "Startup and Shutdown". This was before I was able to turn off my touch pad with

Code:

#!/bin/bash
# toggle synaptic touchpad on/off

# get current state
SYNSTATE=$(synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk '{ print $3 }')

# change to other state
if [ $SYNSTATE = 0 ]; then
  synclient touchpadoff=1
elif [ $SYNSTATE = 1 ]; then
  synclient touchpadoff=0
else
  echo "Couldn't get touchpad status from synclient"
  exit 1
fi
exit 0

**leetuckert** · Jun 20, 2011, 12:12 PM

Re: No touchpad found

Originally posted by Teunis

Ah yes, your laptop has also one of those pointers and like me you prefer it over a touchpad.
I'm not sure there's a way to shut down just the touchpad..

My system has a separate driver for the TrackPoint:
⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ DualPoint Stick id=11 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad id=12 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM) id=9 [slave pointer (2)]

Maybe you'll have to tape it off

Well, I may have to resort to the tape; as I said, it's making me crazy!
Thanks for the reply...

**leetuckert** · Jun 20, 2011, 12:14 PM

Re: No touchpad found

Originally posted by sithlord48

if its the "eraser" kind of middle keyboard mouse you can take a pair of tweasers and pull the "eraser" stright up.it should come right off the electronic part and the remaining part is low enuff that you can't hit it.also some of them are hooked up to their own mobo connector so you might be able to just unhook it (and its buttons) if your able /willing to take the keyboard off.

Actually, I want to use the eraser thingy and shut off the touch pad. That's what I keep hitting and sending my input cursor to some place where I don't want it.

Thanks for the help...

**leetuckert** · Jun 20, 2011, 12:27 PM

Re: No touchpad found

Originally posted by oshunluvr

Your mouse didn't show up as a pointing device - odd.

Give a bit more hardware details - models and such and how is your mouse connected.

Try disconnecting your mouse, disabling the touchpad, then plugging the mouse in.

Also what's the output of ls /sys/class/input ?

Look for a file called touchpad.rules - it will have some numbers with that name too like 81-touchpad.rules either in /etc/udev/rules.d or /lib/udev/rules.d. Post the contents if you have it, also the input section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you have that file.

Also - look in System Settings > Input Devices and see if you mouse and touchpad are both listed.

ls /sys/class/input
event0 event12 event4 event8 input10 input2 input6 mice
event1 event13 event5 event9 input11 input3 input7 mouse0
event10 event2 event6 input0 input12 input4 input8
event11 event3 event7 input1 input13 input5 input9

I don't have a mouse connected. I use the eraser thing in embedded in the keyboard.

I cannot find anything related to touchpad.rules; however, I did find some interesting stuff in /etc/events related to a touchpad.

In System Settings, a mouse and a touchpad are listed in the column of icons on the left; however, if I click the touchpad icon, I get the error about the touchpad not being found.

The xorg.conf file is attached. There is little information in there. Is this the problem?

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