User Management 2018

[Rog131]

Older: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...ser-Management

With the KDE Frameworks 5.41.0, Plasma 5.11.5

A wish: Bug 376157 - kf5 kuser: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376157

The lxqt-admin-user will ask password when needed:


Adding the LXQt User and Group Settings to the KDE Menu and the KDE systemsettings

lxqt-admin: https://github.com/lxde/lxqt-admin

Ubuntu packages: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?k...ll&section=all

KDE Menu

Copying the lxqt-admin 0.12.0 /usr/share/applications/lxqt-admin-user.desktop to the $HOME/.local/share/applications/lxqt-admin-user.desktop



and disabling the

OnlyShowIn=LXQt;

=>

#OnlyShowIn=LXQt;

Now the lxqt-admin-user is shown in the KDE menu:



KDE systemsettings

The lxqt-admin-user can be added to the KDE Systemsettings as an external application by writing a desktop file $HOME/.local/share/kservices5/kcm_lxqt_users_groups.desktop:

[Desktop Entry]
Exec=lxqt-admin-user
Icon=user-group-properties
Type=Service
Categories=Qt;KDE;X-KDE-settings-system;

X-KDE-ServiceTypes=SystemSettingsExternalApp
X-KDE-ParentApp=lxqt-admin-user

X-KDE-System-Settings-Parent-Category=accountdetails
#X-KDE-Weight=20
X-KDE-Keywords=users,groups,system,administration
X-KDE-Keywords[x-test]=xxusersxx,xxgroupsxx,xxsystemxx,xxadministrationxx

Name=LXQt User Manager
Name[x-test]=xxLXQt User Managerxx

Comment=Add, remove or edit system users and groups
Comment[x-test]=xxAdd, remove or edit system users and groupsxx

[benny_fletch]

Great post! I was just about to start a thread in the software support section for 18.04 before I found your article. I have been away from KDE since v4, so I was unaware kuser disappeared. lxqt-admin-user has returned the functionality I desire (mainly group membership management). Thank you Rog131!

One question though, I do not have a .local/share/kservices5 folder in my home directory, but it is not a big deal since I can access lxqt-admin-user from the menu.

[Rog131]

One question though, I do not have a .local/share/kservices5 folder in my home directory, but it is not a big deal since I can access lxqt-admin-user from the menu.

The user can create missing directories either with the mkdir:

$ mkdir --help
Usage: mkdir [OPTION]... DIRECTORY...
Create the DIRECTORY(ies), if they do not already exist.

Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short options too.
-m, --mode=MODE   set file mode (as in chmod), not a=rwx - umask
-p, --parents     no error if existing, make parent directories as needed
-v, --verbose     print a message for each created directory
-Z                   set SELinux security context of each created directory
                       to the default type
    --context[=CTX]  like -Z, or if CTX is specified then set the SELinux
                       or SMACK security context to CTX
    --help     display this help and exit
    --version  output version information and exit

or with the Dolphin - 'Create New' context menu:

[Rog131]

and the kitchen sink

If you think that the installation of the lxqt-admin is installing too much:

(with the Ubuntu 18.04 & minimal plasma 5 desktop & VirtualBox)

Log of sudo apt-get install lxqt-admin 
Thu Oct  4 07:54:49 2018

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information..

0 upgraded, 116 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 13.7 MB of archives.
After this operation, 58.6 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

There are options - man apt-get:

OPTIONS

All command line options may be set using the configuration file, the descriptions indicate the configuration option to set. For boolean options you can override the config file by using something like -f-,--no-f, -f=no or several other variations.

--no-install-recommends
Do not consider recommended packages as a dependency for installing.

Not installing the kitchen sink:

Log of sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install lxqt-admin 
Thu Oct  4 07:58:19 2018

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information.

The following NEW packages will be installed:
desktop-file-utils liblxqt0 libqt5xdg3 libqt5xdgiconloader3 lxqt-admin
0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 295 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,179 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

[GreyGeek]

Worked like a charm, Rog131! Thanks!

I, like a lot of others thought that 86 files and 45?? Mb was too much, but then I downloaded the last Kuser-4.14.3 tar file from 2014 and looked at the code, with the idea of compiling it myself. The last line of ku_mainwidget.cpp: "#include "ku_mainwidget.moc", convinced me otherwise. Including the output of the metaobject compiler as part of the cpp source, is something I never had to do in nearly 10 years of coding with Qt.

[MoonRise]

Thanks!! What I've been looking for. Minimal works great!

[v7peer]

Great post. Good work!!
I still use kuser. Downloaded a .deb package (forgot the site I downloaded it from) and installed it half a year ago.
The version is: 4:16.08.0-1+b1

[benny_fletch]

Has anyone tried this on a current/fresh install of kde neon? I receive an error in muon that lxqt-admin conflicts with lxqt-admin and is not installable. Trying apt-get in the console results in this:

[FONT=monospace][COLOR=#54FF54][B]fletch@TRON[/B][/COLOR]:[COLOR=#5454FF][B]~[/B][/COLOR]$ sudo apt-get install lxqt-admin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree        
Reading state information... Done
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 4
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 4
Investigating (0) libqt5xdg3:amd64 < none -> 3.1.0-5build2 @un uN Ib >
Broken libqt5xdg3:amd64 Depends on libqt5xdgiconloader3:amd64 < none | 3.1.0-5build2 @un uH > (>= 3.0.0)
Considering libqt5xdgiconloader3:amd64 0 as a solution to libqt5xdg3:amd64 13
Holding Back libqt5xdg3:amd64 rather than change libqt5xdgiconloader3:amd64
Investigating (0) lxqt-session:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-5 @un uN Ib >
Broken lxqt-session:amd64 Depends on libqt5xdg3:amd64 < none | 3.1.0-5build2 @un uH > (>= 1.3.0)
Considering libqt5xdg3:amd64 13 as a solution to lxqt-session:amd64 7
Holding Back lxqt-session:amd64 rather than change libqt5xdg3:amd64
Investigating (0) lxqt-policykit:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-3 @un uN Ib >
Broken lxqt-policykit:amd64 Depends on lxqt-session:amd64 < none | 0.12.0-5 @un uH >
Considering lxqt-session:amd64 7 as a solution to lxqt-policykit:amd64 7
Holding Back lxqt-policykit:amd64 rather than change lxqt-session:amd64
Investigating (0) lxqt-notificationd:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-3 @un uN Ib >
Broken lxqt-notificationd:amd64 Depends on libqt5xdg3:amd64 < none | 3.1.0-5build2 @un uH > (>= 1.0.0)
Considering libqt5xdg3:amd64 13 as a solution to lxqt-notificationd:amd64 6
Holding Back lxqt-notificationd:amd64 rather than change libqt5xdg3:amd64
Investigating (0) lxqt-powermanagement:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-4 @un uN Ib >
Broken lxqt-powermanagement:amd64 Depends on libqt5xdg3:amd64 < none | 3.1.0-5build2 @un uH > (>= 1.0.0)
Considering libqt5xdg3:amd64 13 as a solution to lxqt-powermanagement:amd64 3
Holding Back lxqt-powermanagement:amd64 rather than change libqt5xdg3:amd64
Investigating (0) pcmanfm-qt:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-5 @un uN Ib >
Broken pcmanfm-qt:amd64 Depends on libfm-qt3:amd64 < none | 0.12.0-14build2 @un uH > (>= 0.12.0)
Considering libfm-qt3:amd64 0 as a solution to pcmanfm-qt:amd64 2
Holding Back pcmanfm-qt:amd64 rather than change libfm-qt3:amd64
Investigating (0) lxqt-config:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-3 @un uN Ib >
Broken lxqt-config:amd64 Depends on libqt5xdg3:amd64 < none | 3.1.0-5build2 @un uH > (>= 1.0.0)
Considering libqt5xdg3:amd64 13 as a solution to lxqt-config:amd64 2
Holding Back lxqt-config:amd64 rather than change libqt5xdg3:amd64
Investigating (0) lximage-qt:amd64 < none -> 0.6.0-3 @un uN Ib >
Broken lximage-qt:amd64 Depends on libfm-qt3:amd64 < none | 0.12.0-14build2 @un uH > (>= 0.12.0)
Considering libfm-qt3:amd64 0 as a solution to lximage-qt:amd64 0
Holding Back lximage-qt:amd64 rather than change libfm-qt3:amd64
Investigating (1) liblxqt0:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-5 @un uN Ib >
Broken liblxqt0:amd64 Depends on libqt5xdg3:amd64 < none | 3.1.0-5build2 @un uH > (>= 1.0.0)
Considering libqt5xdg3:amd64 13 as a solution to liblxqt0:amd64 14
Holding Back liblxqt0:amd64 rather than change libqt5xdg3:amd64
Investigating (1) lxqt-sudo:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-3 @un uN Ib >
Broken lxqt-sudo:amd64 Depends on liblxqt0:amd64 < none | 0.12.0-5 @un uH > (>= 0.9.0+20150911)
Considering liblxqt0:amd64 14 as a solution to lxqt-sudo:amd64 3
Holding Back lxqt-sudo:amd64 rather than change liblxqt0:amd64
Investigating (2) lxqt-admin:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-4 @un puN Ib >
Broken lxqt-admin:amd64 Depends on liblxqt0:amd64 < none | 0.12.0-5 @un uH > (>= 0.11.0)
Considering liblxqt0:amd64 14 as a solution to lxqt-admin:amd64 9999
 Reinst Failed early because of qtbase-abi-5-9-5:amd64
 Reinst Failed because of libqt5xdgiconloader3:amd64
 Reinst Failed because of libqt5xdg3:amd64
Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
lxqt-admin : Depends: liblxqt0 (>= 0.11.0) but it is not going to be installed
           Recommends: lxqt-qtplugin but it is not going to be installed
           Recommends: lxqt-policykit but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

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I assume this stems from the different versions of qt on kde neon 15.14 vs. ubuntu 18.04. Any insight would be appreciated. The lxqt-admin package was a god send in my opinion.

[Snowhog]

Are you running the user or developer version of neon?

[benny_fletch]

The user edition (20181108-1900) installed yesterday.

[Snowhog]

After installing, did you perform a dist-upgrade? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

[Rog131]

What Neon is and what it is not.

Has anyone tried this on a current/fresh install of kde neon? I receive an error in muon that lxqt-admin conflicts with lxqt-admin and is not installable. Trying apt-get in the console results in this...:

I assume this stems from the different versions of qt on kde neon 15.14 vs. ubuntu 18.04. Any insight would be appreciated. The lxqt-admin package was a god send in my opinion.

Yes - problem is the Qt version.

Ubuntu is using 5.9
KDE Neon is using 5.11

Short:

$ sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install lxqt-admin
[sudo] password for rog131: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 1
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 1
Investigating (0) libqt5xdg3:amd64 < none -> 3.1.0-5build2 @un uN Ib >
Broken libqt5xdg3:amd64 Depends on libqt5xdgiconloader3:amd64 < none | 3.1.0-5build2 @un uH > (>= 3.0.0)
Considering libqt5xdgiconloader3:amd64 0 as a solution to libqt5xdg3:amd64 0
Holding Back libqt5xdg3:amd64 rather than change libqt5xdgiconloader3:amd64
Investigating (1) liblxqt0:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-5 @un uN Ib >
Broken liblxqt0:amd64 Depends on libqt5xdg3:amd64 < none | 3.1.0-5build2 @un uH > (>= 1.0.0)
Considering libqt5xdg3:amd64 0 as a solution to liblxqt0:amd64 0
Holding Back liblxqt0:amd64 rather than change libqt5xdg3:amd64
Investigating (2) lxqt-admin:amd64 < none -> 0.12.0-4 @un puN Ib >
Broken lxqt-admin:amd64 Depends on liblxqt0:amd64 < none | 0.12.0-5 @un uH > (>= 0.11.0)
Considering liblxqt0:amd64 0 as a solution to lxqt-admin:amd64 9999
  Reinst Failed early because of qtbase-abi-5-9-5:amd64
  Reinst Failed because of libqt5xdgiconloader3:amd64
  Reinst Failed because of libqt5xdg3:amd64
Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
lxqt-admin : Depends: liblxqt0 (>= 0.11.0) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

$ apt-cache policy libqt5core5a
libqt5core5a:
Installed: 5.11.2+dfsg-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build47
Candidate: 5.11.2+dfsg-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build47
Version table:
*** 5.11.2+dfsg-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build47 500
500 http://archive.neon.kde.org/user bionic/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
5.11.2+dfsg-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build46 500
500 http://archive.neon.kde.org/user bionic/main amd64 Packages
5.11.2+dfsg-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build45 500
500 http://archive.neon.kde.org/user bionic/main amd64 Packages
5.11.2+dfsg-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build10 500
500 http://archive.neon.kde.org/user bionic/main amd64 Packages
5.9.5+dfsg-0ubuntu1 500
500 http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages

,
,
,

Package: libqt5core5a

Version: 5.11.2+dfsg-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build47

Maintainer: Neon CI <neon@kde.org>

Provides: qtbase-abi-5-11-0

Package: libqt5core5a

Version: 5.9.5+dfsg-0ubuntu1

Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>

Provides: qtbase-abi-5-9-5

What Neon is and what it is not - consequences

Officially: https://neon.kde.org

The latest and greatest of KDE community software packaged on a rock-solid base.

My version:
- The Neon is a KDE showcase / testbed.
- KDE is piggybacking Ubuntu repositories so the KDE doesn't have full control of all applications - Neon is not a distribution.

It mean that if you are trying install a Qt based application from the Ubuntu repositories you could bump to the version (size) mismatch.

[benny_fletch]

After installing, did you perform a dist-upgrade? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

No, I was unaware this was necessary on a fresh install of kde neon.

Yes - problem is the Qt version.

Ubuntu is using 5.9
KDE Neon is using 5.11

...

What Neon is and what it is not - consequences

...

It mean that if you are trying install a Qt based application from the Ubuntu repositories you could bump to the version (size) mismatch.

Understandable, it is what it is. Thank you for confirming this was the problem. I will have to make due or find a different solution for managing user accounts. It is sad KDE ships a watered down user management gui (ie no group membership management), but this isn't something new to the technology world and I have definitely seen similar tactics in other OSes. Thank you both for your input!