Basic Networking

[Batty]

Hello,
I have two pcs running Kubuntu all i want to do is share some files between them across a wired network.

Please can someone point me in the right direction

many thanks

[penguin.ch]

Re: Basic Networking

The classical approach: the Network File System

HTH
Birdy

[Batty]

Re: Basic Networking

It might be the classical approach - but is it the easiest ?
I'm new to linux and that does not look easy!

I have to say since i've started using Kubuntu I don't think I've ever had to read so much

[penguin.ch]

Re: Basic Networking

It might be the classical approach - but is it the easiest?

I would say so - although I do prefer SMB (aka Samba), which suits me better in terms of configuration and handling.

I'm new to linux and that does not look easy!

Nothing being worth a second thought is easy at the beginning (as I believe).

I have to say since i've started using Kubuntu I don't think I've ever had to read so much

As a Linux user, you are supposed to know what you as well as your machine are doing 8)

But, to be more serious: with time, hopefully you will see that there is some structure and logic in Linux / Unix et al. The downside is that you have to get some idea of this in order to succeed (especially for Windoze users a cultural shock of sorts). The upside is that, once you have it, you wil be able to set up a reliable machine and work with it in a much more secure and efficient way than with any Windoze I know of ...

Remark, just to put things straight: I've been working with Windoze systems on a professional basis for more than a decade ... it is possible to set up a Windoze environment "safe and sound" - but you have to work pretty hard for it (while in Linux / Unix et al., due to a completely different concept, a lot of this stuff is there simply by default).

O.k., end of lecture - it's a topic I could write screeds on :-X

Birdy

[bagatelles]

Re: Basic Networking

I agree with anything you've said penguin.ch...that a linux user needs to study his/her box quite a bit to become fluent with it, and it's good to know about NFS and all that, but i would never recommend NFS to anyone. I've had NFS for a few months, i've studied it, managed to secure it a little bit, setup iptables for it, but i am so glad that there's other stuff out there.

I would Totally recommend SSHFS for anything (!!), even for local file sharing. The stealthiest, safest, easiest way to share anything over a network and over the internet. I actually don't even understand why anyone would even consider NFS when compared to the infamous and most favorite ssh with fuse (sshfs). I seriously recommend it. It takes less than half an hour to study a little bit on it, apply it and use it and not have to worry about anything.

Links to help out a little bit:
http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html
http://www.debuntu.org/2006/03/30/11...sshfs-and-fuse

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8904
http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/...m-using-sshfs/

[penguin.ch]

Re: Basic Networking

Bagatelles,

thank you for considering sshfs / fuse ... I have to admit that I have never heard of them before - but at first sight, I would agree that as an alternative to nfs they look quite promising.

However, I will stick to smb, simply because it integrates well with all systems I am running here (including one virtual instance of Windoze) - kind of a "one size fits all" approach, so to speak.

Birdy

[bagatelles]

Re: Basic Networking

Yeah, if you have a windoze box somewhere then you most likely need samba. Not sure if sshfs could work with those boxes.

Give it a try though for your linux sharing cause it's really extremely easy to set up. I couldn't believe at first sight how easy it was to use. In so little time you have access to anything you need from your servers/computers on the fly. I mainly use it for remote access, but also for all my local file sharing practices. There's lots you can do with it. You can even create an RSA public/private key and not even have to worry about sending name & password over the network to gain access.

[Teppic]

Re: Basic Networking

NFS is good for permanent shares (shared video music etc) on a secured network, I always found the config much simpler than SMB.
For getting the odd file (script, config file etc) scp, sftp or konqueror with fish:// are all useful.
I haven't used SMB/CIFS, outside of the vmware inbuilt version, for about 2 years so can't really comment, but it never used to work as well as NFS.
You can also use tar or rsync across ssh, but these are a bit convoluted unless you need to move/sync/copy directory trees often.

There is also the very useful 'personal file server' miniature web server applet for kicker, good for those short term windows shares, and who can't point a web browser at port 8000, simplicity itself.

[gregbzh]

Re: Basic Networking

This surely shouldn't be in 'Help the New Guy'. Is this really as basic as networking gets? If it is, it's certainly not going to encourage too many people to give it a go.

Don't get me wrong. I love Kubuntu and no longer use Windows at all. I didn't even give my Vista RC copy more than a fleeting glance.

Is there anybody out there who could help a real newbie set up a wired network?