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    Is it actually an Untrusted PPA?

    Originally posted by nlsthzn View Post
    Good question. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa only states, "Updates for Kubuntu releases which are due to go to Ubuntu Updates. Mostly KDE point releases" which doesn't say much.
    This reads as update your system with unsupported packages from an untrusted PPA. Why would anyone do this ?
    And this is not the first time I've read "solution" to a problem redirected to this page/link

    Can someone please explain this further as I have several problems I am trying to find solutions for
    1. Malformed url when connecting a usb drive
    2. some GPG error when updating.
    2a. Now unable to find new update server as "packages not downloaded" or some such error.

    Thanks
    Charles

    #2
    This update has been promoted to the regular repo, therefore it is supported, as was discussed in the 18.04 forum for the Plasma update sticky thread.

    As for the remaining errors you are getting, it would be interesting to see actual outputs showing each. You might be able to see 2 and 2a if you open a konsole and enter:
    Code:
    sudo apt update
    followed by
    Code:
    sudo apt full-upgrade
    Those two entries should result in capture and install of anything outstanding upgrades to your current Kubuntu.

    The following copied exactly into a konsole session would also be useful in helping to understand your current platform:
    Code:
    inxi -Fxz
    Your outputs should be copied and pasted into your Reply using CODE boxes (the # button in the Reply).
    The next brick house on the left
    Intel i7 11th Gen | 16GB | 1TB | KDE Plasma 5.27.11​| Kubuntu 24.04 | 6.8.0-31-generic



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      #3
      jglen
      I did find and remove an update source something like 'http.debian.net/debian stretch-backports' in the update sources, and unselected it. (yes it looks like it had a space in it)

      output as requested

      Code:
      dave@davesPC:~$ sudo apt update
      [sudo] password for dave: 
      Hit:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease        
      Hit:2 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease                                               
      Hit:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/jtaylor/keepass/ubuntu bionic InRelease                                   
      Hit:4 http://ubuntu.mirror.serversaustralia.com.au/ubuntu bionic InRelease                          
      Hit:5 http://ubuntu.mirror.serversaustralia.com.au/ubuntu bionic-updates InRelease                  
      Hit:6 http://ubuntu.mirror.serversaustralia.com.au/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease
      Hit:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/samoilov-lex/aftl-stable/ubuntu bionic InRelease
      Reading package lists... Done                      
      Building dependency tree       
      Reading state information... Done
      All packages are up to date.
      dave@davesPC:~$ sudo apt full-upgrade
      Reading package lists... Done
      Building dependency tree       
      Reading state information... Done
      Calculating upgrade... Done
      The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
      bacula-bscan bacula-client bacula-common-pgsql bacula-console bacula-director bacula-director-pgsql
      bacula-fd bacula-sd bacula-server dbconfig-common dbconfig-pgsql libmuparser2v5 librecad-data mt-st
      mtx python3-notify2
      Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
      0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
      dave@davesPC:~$ inxi -Fxz
      
      Command 'inxi' not found, but can be installed with:
      
      sudo apt install inxi
      
      dave@davesPC:~$ sudo apt install inxi
      Reading package lists... Done
      Building dependency tree       
      Reading state information... Done
      The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
      bacula-bscan bacula-client bacula-common-pgsql bacula-console bacula-director bacula-director-pgsql
      bacula-fd bacula-sd bacula-server dbconfig-common dbconfig-pgsql libmuparser2v5 librecad-data mt-st
      mtx python3-notify2
      Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
      The following additional packages will be installed:
      hddtemp lm-sensors mesa-utils
      Suggested packages:
      fancontrol read-edid i2c-tools
      The following NEW packages will be installed:
      hddtemp inxi lm-sensors mesa-utils
      0 to upgrade, 4 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
      Need to get 310 kB of archives.
      After this operation, 1,345 kB of additional disk space will be used.
      Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
      Get:1 http://ubuntu.mirror.serversaustralia.com.au/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 hddtemp amd64 0.3-beta15-53 [47.7 kB]
      Get:2 http://ubuntu.mirror.serversaustralia.com.au/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 inxi all 2.3.56-1 [143 kB]
      Get:3 http://ubuntu.mirror.serversaustralia.com.au/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 lm-sensors amd64 1:3.4.0-4 [85.5 kB]
      Get:4 http://ubuntu.mirror.serversaustralia.com.au/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 mesa-utils amd64 8.4.0-1 [34.3 kB]
      Fetched 310 kB in 2s (182 kB/s)   
      Preconfiguring packages ...
      Selecting previously unselected package hddtemp.
      (Reading database ... 245672 files and directories currently installed.)
      Preparing to unpack .../hddtemp_0.3-beta15-53_amd64.deb ...
      Unpacking hddtemp (0.3-beta15-53) ...
      Selecting previously unselected package inxi.
      Preparing to unpack .../archives/inxi_2.3.56-1_all.deb ...
      Unpacking inxi (2.3.56-1) ...
      Selecting previously unselected package lm-sensors.
      Preparing to unpack .../lm-sensors_1%3a3.4.0-4_amd64.deb ...
      Unpacking lm-sensors (1:3.4.0-4) ...
      Selecting previously unselected package mesa-utils.
      Preparing to unpack .../mesa-utils_8.4.0-1_amd64.deb ...
      Unpacking mesa-utils (8.4.0-1) ...
      Setting up hddtemp (0.3-beta15-53) ...
      Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-20) ...
      ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
      Setting up lm-sensors (1:3.4.0-4) ...
      Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/lm-sensors.service → /lib/systemd/system/lm-sensors.service.
      Setting up inxi (2.3.56-1) ...
      Processing triggers for systemd (237-3ubuntu10.9) ...
      Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.3-2ubuntu0.1) ...
      Setting up mesa-utils (8.4.0-1) ...
      Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-20) ...
      dave@davesPC:~$ inxi -Fxz            
      System:    Host: DavesPC Kernel: 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 7.3.0
             Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.12.7 (Qt 5.9.5) Distro: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
      Machine:   Device: desktop System: XXXX product: XXXX serial: N/A                                   
             Mobo: XXXX model: XXXX: Rev X.0x serial: N/A                                         
             BIOS: American Megatrends v: 2205 date: 05/26/2015                                             
      CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i5-4460 (-MCP-) arch: Haswell rev.3 cache: 6144 KB
             flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 25585
             clock speeds: max: 3400 MHz 1: 2182 MHz 2: 2190 MHz 3: 2159 MHz 4: 2157 MHz
      Graphics:  Card: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
             bus-ID: 00:02.0
             Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
             Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
             OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Desktop version: 4.5 Mesa 18.0.5 Direct Render: Yes
      Audio:     Card Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Def. Audio Controller
             driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
             Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-43-generic
      Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCIE Gigabit Ethernet Controller
             driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 04:00.0
             IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
      Drives:    HDD Total Size: 6731.4GB (79.9% used)
             ID-1: /dev/sda model: XXXX size: 480.1GB temp: 33C
             ID-2: /dev/sdb model: XXXX size: 250.1GB temp: 0C
             ID-3: /dev/sdc model: XXXX size: 2000.4GB temp: 29C
             ID-4: /dev/sdd model: XXXX size: 4000.8GB temp: 27C
      Partition: ID-1: / size: 440G used: 123G (30%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
      RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
      Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C
             Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
      Info:      Processes: 245 Uptime: 26 min Memory: 4640.0/14967.6MB
             Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0 Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56 
      dave@davesPC:~$

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        #4
        Originally posted by CharlieDaves View Post
        This reads as update your system with unsupported packages from an untrusted PPA. Why would anyone do this ?
        Because they trust the person or team behind the untrusted ppa.

        I see you have
        Hit:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease
        Hit:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/jtaylor/keepass/ubuntu bionic InRelease
        Hit:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/samoilov-le...-stable/ubuntu bionic InRelease
        Kubuntu 20.04

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          #5
          Anything not in the base repo considered "unsupported" since canonical does not provide support or do any security testing with the packages on PPAs.
          Mark Your Solved Issues [SOLVED]
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            #6
            IMO, "Untrusted" means "Not owned by Canonical" in this instance. Not a wholly scary situation in itself. Their are many PPAs that are extremely useful for specific things. Like a program that is not directly developed by Canonical so drags months or even years behind your installation. Often these projects are well ahead of the "factory" repos and you're much better off with the latest update than the old package, like Handbrake for example. This is especially true if you stick to the LTS cycle rather then the six-month releases.

            Please Read Me

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              #7
              BTW, this particular PPA has the KDE team supporting it. One could argue that it's more "trusted" than anything Canonical puts out. Or you could just install KDEneon and be done with it.

              Please Read Me

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                #8
                ... or not
                The next brick house on the left
                Intel i7 11th Gen | 16GB | 1TB | KDE Plasma 5.27.11​| Kubuntu 24.04 | 6.8.0-31-generic



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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chimak111 View Post
                  Because they trust the person or team behind the untrusted ppa.

                  I see you have
                  Hit:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease
                  Hit:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/jtaylor/keepass/ubuntu bionic InRelease
                  Hit:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/samoilov-le...-stable/ubuntu bionic InRelease
                  Is this Good or Bad?
                  You didn't mention the other hits, the even ones

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                    #10
                    OK. Thanks I think.
                    I've added this PPA, and updated.

                    New Problem. (Let me know if I should make a new thread)
                    I am unable to mount any of my encrypted HDD's using VeraCrypt.
                    I go to mount, the mount appears to be successful, and is mounted and appears in Dolphin.
                    VeraCrypt comes up with an error
                    Code:
                    Failed to write lock '/dev/mapper/veracrypt1': Resource temporarily unavailable
                    Error opening '/dev/mapper/veracrypt1': Resource temporarily unavailable
                    Failed to mount '/dev/mapper/veracrypt1': Resource temporarily unavailable
                    VeraCrypt doesn't display the drive as mounted within VeraCrypt. (The mounted drive is usable as in I can create and delete stuff, but I don't use it in this manner as it is a backup drive, and it takes hours to do a full backup)
                    I am unable to unmount or remove the drive from appearing in Dolphin (VeraCrypt Name).
                    I can power off the drive (It is external) and this disconnects the drive from being accessed, but it is still listed in dolphin under the VeraCrypt Name.
                    If I reconnect the drive, it appears as a new device as in if previous SDd it is now SDe, then SDf, etc
                    I am unable to mount within VeraCrypt as the device is 'in use'

                    - Sorry long explanation-

                    Q- Can I remove this PPA and all associated updated stuff (so I can get my external encrypted Drive working again as I need to finish of EOY backups)?
                    -- If yes, how?

                    Q- Is there a work around to get VeraCrypt to work correctly. I have removed and installed a slightly later version ?.22 to ?.23 [& even done the old Windows ready(reboot), Set(Reboot), Go(Reboot & play solitaire)]

                    Thanks Again
                    Charles
                    Last edited by CharlieDaves; Jan 04, 2019, 06:09 PM. Reason: Forgot Something

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                      #11
                      He (chimak111) is just saying that 'untrusted' doesn't have the meaning that you (initially) attributed to it. I believe, technically, Ubuntu (Canonical) takes the position that "If it isn't in our official repositories, we don't officially support it -- it's "untrusted"." and nothing more. That's not to say that people can't establish a PPA for the purpose of hosting malicious files, but if they did, they wouldn't last very long; word gets around VERY quickly. When in doubt as to the safety of using someones PPA, ask others about it first.
                      Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                      Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                      "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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