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    #16
    What does ls /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/ look like? And is there actual data within the directories?
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      #17
      […]
      Unfortunately I don't know by heart which packages contain the system tray plasmoid and modules… Hopefully someone else here does.
      They should be part of plasma-desktop (and its dependencies?) and some more are part of plasma-widgets-addons as far as I can tell.
      Last edited by Schwarzer Kater; May 27, 2024, 10:59 AM.
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        #18
        That's what I was picturing would be there running --fix-broken came back with
        0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded.

        apt list --upgradable showed me everything that I can upgrade, but I'm not sure what the command is to upgrade all of them, or if that will even help with this issue.

        If this is the end of the line for where you're able to help, I just want to say I really appreciate all the time you've put into guiding me through this and the progress you have helped me make. As this is my first foray into this community, you've really left a glowing impression, thank you for everything!

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          #19
          Oh I'm sorry, I missed the last two messages. ls /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/ looks like this:

          Code:
          org.kde.desktopcontainment
          org.kde.plasma.manage-inputmethod
          org.kde.kdeconnect
          org.kde.plasma.marginsseparator
          org.kde.kscreen
          org.kde.plasma.mediacontroller
          org.kde.kupapplet
          org.kde.plasma.mediaframe
          org.kde.milou
          org.kde.plasma.minimizeall
          org.kde.panel
          org.kde.plasma.networkmanagement
          org.kde.plasma.activitybar
          org.kde.plasma.nightcolorcontrol
          org.kde.plasma.activitypager
          org.kde.plasma.notes
          org.kde.plasma.addons.katesessions
          org.kde.plasma.notifications
          org.kde.plasma.analogclock
          org.kde.plasma.pager
          org.kde.plasma_applet_dict
          org.kde.plasma.panelspacer
          org.kde.plasma.appmenu
          org.kde.plasma.printmanager
          org.kde.plasma.battery
          org.kde.plasma.private.grouping
          org.kde.plasma.binaryclock
          org.kde.plasma.private.systemtray
          org.kde.plasma.bluetooth
          org.kde.plasma.quicklaunch
          org.kde.plasma.calculator
          org.kde.plasma.quickshare
          org.kde.plasma.calendar
          org.kde.plasma.showActivityManager
          org.kde.plasma.clipboard
          org.kde.plasma.showdesktop
          org.kde.plasma.colorpicker
          org.kde.plasma.systemmonitor
          org.kde.plasma.comic
          org.kde.plasma.systemmonitor.cpu
          org.kde.plasma.devicenotifier
          org.kde.plasma.systemmonitor.cpucore
          org.kde.plasma.digitalclock
          org.kde.plasma.systemmonitor.diskactivity
          org.kde.plasma.diskquota
          org.kde.plasma.systemmonitor.diskusage
          org.kde.plasma.fifteenpuzzle
          org.kde.plasma.systemmonitor.memory
          org.kde.plasma.folder
          org.kde.plasma.systemmonitor.net
          org.kde.plasma.fuzzyclock
          org.kde.plasma.systemtray
          org.kde.plasma.grouping
          org.kde.plasma.taskmanager
          org.kde.plasma.icon
          org.kde.plasma.timer
          org.kde.plasma.icontasks
          org.kde.plasma.trash
          org.kde.plasma.keyboardindicator
          org.kde.plasma.userswitcher
          org.kde.plasma.keyboardlayout
          org.kde.plasma.vault
          org.kde.plasma.kickerorg.kde.plasma.volume
          org.kde.plasma.kickerdash
          org.kde.plasma.wacomtablet
          org.kde.plasma.kickoff
          org.kde.plasma.weather
          org.kde.plasma.kimpanel
          org.kde.plasma.webbrowser
          org.kde.plasma.konsoleprofiles
          org.kde.plasma.windowlist
          org.kde.plasma.lock_logout
          touchpad


          Last edited by schlurb; Jun 02, 2024, 04:10 PM.

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            #20
            I'm not sure how to tell if there is data in the directories

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              #21
              I don't think that you are missing something there (at least not at this directory level).
              You can simply use Dolphin to take a look into those directories.
              Copy /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/ into Dolphin's navigation bar like you would copy an URL into a web browser (I suggested to use CLI and ls before just out of habit).

              Originally posted by schlurb View Post
              […]
              apt list --upgradable showed me everything that I can upgrade, but I'm not sure what the command is to upgrade all of them, or if that will even help with this issue.

              If this is the end of the line for where you're able to help, I just want to say I really appreciate all the time you've put into guiding me through this and the progress you have helped me make. As this is my first foray into this community, you've really left a glowing impression, thank you for everything!
              sudo apt update && apt list --upgradable syncronizes package informations with the repositories and lists packages that can be updated
              sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade syncronizes package informations with the repositories and updates installed packages

              But it is perfectly fine to update your system and programs with Discover! The only difference is that you will get much more information/feedback in the terminal.

              And no: updating your system will very probably not help with the issue of the missing system tray…
              Reinstalling plasma-desktop including dependencies might help, though.


              Slighty OT:​
              Thanks for the kind works, btw.
              It's the people that have kept me in this forum and why I like trying to help here (and because it is fun and I can always learn something - may it only be the one or other vocabulary).
              People like e.g. claydoh, Snowhog, oshunluvr, Qqmike, jlittle, jglen490, Beerislife, GreyGeek, TWPonKubuntu, TwoFistedJustice, MoonRise, kc1di, StarWolf and many others…
              Last edited by Schwarzer Kater; May 27, 2024, 05:11 PM. Reason: typos, as usual
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                #22
                Originally posted by schlurb View Post
                If this is the end of the line for where you're able to help, I just want to say I really appreciate all the time you've put into guiding me through this and the progress you have helped me make. As this is my first foray into this community, you've really left a glowing impression, thank you for everything!
                No one here will tell you (or anyone) "We're done. You're on your own." That's not how we roll.
                Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                  #23
                  Alright! Love that attitude. Packages updated. I tried running

                  sudo apt install reinstall kde-plasma-desktop

                  and

                  sudo apt install reinstall plasma-desktop

                  but got hit with "E: Unable to locate package reinstall" both times, it looks like I've got the name wrong

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by schlurb View Post
                    Alright! Love that attitude. Packages updated. I tried running

                    sudo apt install reinstall kde-plasma-desktop

                    and

                    sudo apt install reinstall plasma-desktop

                    but got hit with "E: Unable to locate package reinstall" both times, it looks like I've got the name wrong
                    The syntax is incorrect -- use Audi apt install --reinstall packagename . <----Oops! Fixed it.

                    Without the double dash, apt thinks you want to install two packages, one named 'reinstall'
                    Last edited by claydoh; May 29, 2024, 06:57 PM.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by claydoh View Post
                      The syntax is incorrect -- use apt --reinstall packagename
                      No, it's sudo apt install --reinstall packagename [Added: The 'old' way of doing it, and while no longer documented in the current apt man file, it still works this way.]
                      Last edited by Snowhog; May 29, 2024, 07:14 AM.
                      Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                      Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                      "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                        #26
                        … or nowadays simply sudo apt reinstall packagename . claydoh just had too many "-" to spare…

                        I am afraid this won't reinstall the dependencies, though, will it?


                        PS: You can nearly always use the additional --dry-run flag for apt to test things first if you want to.

                        There is the possibility to reinstall the whole system with the Calamares installer and still keep your /home including all user settings and data if you are not able to solve it this way.
                        For safety I would have to know your set-up first, e.g. the installation method you used ("Minimal", "Normal" or "Full") and the information from lsblk -f -e7 and possibly more…
                        Then I could write up a step-by-step "how to" for you.
                        Last edited by Schwarzer Kater; May 29, 2024, 06:14 AM. Reason: added PS
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Schwarzer Kater View Post
                          … or nowadays simply sudo apt reinstall packagename
                          Well, I'll be hornswaggled. You are correct (and I stand corrected). I've just always used sudo apt install --reinstall packagename. Old dog ya know.
                          Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                          Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                          "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Snowhog View Post
                            No, it's sudo apt install --reinstall packagename [Added: The 'old' way of doing it, and while no longer documented in the current apt man file, it still works this way.]
                            I definitely missed a word there. Oops, and sorry to all.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Snowhog View Post
                              […] You are correct (and I stand corrected). I've just always used sudo apt install --reinstall packagename. Old dog ya know.
                              No, you are also correct - I use apt-get install --reinstall in scripts (to avoid directly using apt), but apt install --reinstall also works in CLI. As does apt reinstall.
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                                #30
                                No worries hornswaggled & claydoh! All input here has helped me learn!

                                If we can take the non-full-wipe possibility at this point I'd love that, as I've started a fresh save in Cataclysm I'm a little attached to already. But if we have to go the nuclear route that's okay too. Here's lsblk -f -e7:
                                Code:
                                NAME FSTYPE FSVER LABEL UUID FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS
                                  sda
                                  ├─sda1
                                  │ vfat FAT32 EFI 67E3-17ED 166.1M 16% /boot/efi
                                  ├─sda2
                                  │ apfs 00241c48-0163-419b-a91a-9aa2ec82dd05
                                  ├─sda3
                                  │ vfat FAT32 SWAP 4F9B-1AEE
                                  └─sda4
                                  ext4 1.0 kubuntu_2404 2bcf461d-17f8-468f-9aeb-25aca65d85c6 31.3G 26% /var/snap/firefox/common/host-hunspell
                                  /
                                  sr0​


                                I'm fairly certain I did the "Normal" installation when prompted.
                                Last edited by schlurb; Jun 02, 2024, 04:12 PM.

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