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**anonprivate** · Aug 09, 2016, 07:27 AM

I had no problem running 16.0.4 from the hard drive.

If I install 16.0.4.1 and experience similar problems (lines, flashes, and somtime disconnections from the ISP), I wonder if updating the video drivers might help. If I decided to upgrade, how would I go about downloading and installing the files.

I assume that kubuntu contains all the necessary drivers for good quality video output - but some machines may require additional drivers!

Are there options within kubuntu that I could use to improve/eliminate the above problems?

**acheron** · Aug 09, 2016, 07:51 AM

The latest nvidia driver for the card in your signature (304.131) is in the Xenial main archive. So that should be ok.

Hardware acceleration drivers via vdpau should be available, but on a oldish card I'm not sure how much benefit there is in those.

There are also some options you can add to avoid tearing with nvidia cards, though they may no be needed for all.

**anonprivate** · Aug 09, 2016, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by acheron View Post

The latest nvidia driver for the card in your signature (304.131) is in the Xenial main archive. So that should be ok.

Hardware acceleration drivers via vdpau should be available, but on a oldish card I'm not sure how much benefit there is in those.

There are also some options you can add to avoid tearing with nvidia cards, though they may no be needed for all.

To which options are you referring?

**vinnywright** · Aug 09, 2016, 03:27 PM

if you have an install of "16.04" and you have kept it fully upgraded with

Code:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

,,,,,,,,,then you are running 16.04.1

VINNY

**anonprivate** · Aug 09, 2016, 11:57 PM

I have 16.04 installed on the harddrive, but it is not functional.

I have a version of 16.04.1 on CD (live). This version is giving graphical anomolies when running. I believ that I will need to upgrade the video drivers.

Regarding your comment, Is there a difference between updating and upgrading 16.04, and installing 16.04.1?

Can you tell me how to upgrade the video drivers if I install 16.04.1?

Thanks

**vinnywright** · Aug 10, 2016, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by anonprivate View Post

I have 16.04 installed on the harddrive, but it is not functional.

? what happened

Originally posted by anonprivate View Post

Regarding your comment, Is there a difference between updating and upgrading 16.04, and installing 16.04.1?

no

Originally posted by anonprivate View Post

Can you tell me how to upgrade the video drivers if I install 16.04.1?

well their are way's and their are ways ,,,,,,first try going to "system settings >Driver manager" and see if it's working again (it's been broken for a wile ,,wont display anything) if it's working just select the driver it "recommends" and install .

IF it's still not telling us anything ,,,,,,open a Konsole and run

Code:

ubuntu-drivers devices

you will get something like this

Code:

vinny@vinny-Bonobo-Extreme:~$ ubuntu-drivers devices
== cpu-microcode.py ==
driver   : intel-microcode - distro non-free

== /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0 ==
model    : GK104M [GeForce GTX 860M]
modalias : pci:v000010DEd0000119Asv00001558sd00000376bc03sc00i00
vendor   : NVIDIA Corporation
driver   : nvidia-340 - third-party free
driver   : nvidia-367 - third-party free [COLOR=#ff0000]recommended[/COLOR]
driver   : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - distro free builtin
driver   : nvidia-358 - third-party free
driver   : nvidia-361 - third-party free
driver   : nvidia-364 - third-party free

as we see it is "recommending" nvidia-367 for me , and is in fact what is installed from the "Graphics drivers PPA"

you can then if you like what it has "recommended" for you just do

Code:

sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall

OR

if you know you want a diferent one ,,,,,,,,,lets say ,,,,,,,,"nvidia-340",,,,,,,,,,,,you can just do

Code:

sudo apt install nvidia-340

VINNY

**anonprivate** · Aug 10, 2016, 11:25 PM

'Originally Posted by anonprivate I have 16.04 installed on the harddrive, but it is not functional.'

'

Originally posted by vinnywright View Post

? what happened

well their are way's and their are ways ,,,,,,first try going to "system settings >Driver manager" and see if it's working again (it's been broken for a wile ,,wont display anything) if it's working just select the driver it "recommends" and install .

IF it's still not telling us anything ,,,,,,open a Konsole and run

Code:

ubuntu-drivers devices

you will get something like this

Code:

vinny@vinny-Bonobo-Extreme:~$ ubuntu-drivers devices
== cpu-microcode.py ==
driver   : intel-microcode - distro non-free

== /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0 ==
model    : GK104M [GeForce GTX 860M]
modalias : pci:v000010DEd0000119Asv00001558sd00000376bc03sc00i00
vendor   : NVIDIA Corporation
driver   : nvidia-340 - third-party free
driver   : nvidia-367 - third-party free [COLOR=#ff0000]recommended[/COLOR]
driver   : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - distro free builtin
driver   : nvidia-358 - third-party free
driver   : nvidia-361 - third-party free
driver   : nvidia-364 - third-party free

as we see it is "recommending" nvidia-367 for me , and is in fact what is installed from the "Graphics drivers PPA"

you can then if you like what it has "recommended" for you just do

Code:

sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall

OR

if you know you want a diferent one ,,,,,,,,,lets say ,,,,,,,,"nvidia-340",,,,,,,,,,,,you can just do

Code:

sudo apt install nvidia-340

VINNY

'

Thank you for replying.

Originally posted by vinnywright View Post

? what happened

Initially, I installed 16.04 as an upgrade after I received a message through updates telling me that 16.04.1 was available.

I noticed a very long delay (5 minutes) to boot. I tried to fix the problem by deleting the dot files in my home directory in the hope that they would be reformed and eliminate the problem. After this I could not boot.

On another machine, I donloaded 16.04.1 and formed a live DVD. On running this programme, I noticed some white lines, flashing, and sometimes disconnection from the ISP. I assumed that these phenomena resulted fom the graphics card. Note, I had no such problems with 16.04. At present, I am waiting for some DVD's to arrive so that I can copy my folders in the home directory. Regarding copying, do you know how I can copy my bookmarks?

Art present, I am connecting to the internet using a live pendrive running Ububtu 12.10 (very satisfactory), but can't save anything, and all the software is dated.

'no'

Thank you

'well their are way's and their are ways ,,,,,,first try going to "system settings >Driver manager" and see if it's working again (it's been broken for a wile ,,wont display anything) if it's working just select the driver it "recommends" and install .

IF it's still not telling us anything ,,,,,,open a Konsole and run

Code:

ubuntu-drivers devices

you will get something like this

Code:

vinny@vinny-Bonobo-Extreme:~$ ubuntu-drivers devices
== cpu-microcode.py ==
driver   : intel-microcode - distro non-free

== /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0 ==
model    : GK104M [GeForce GTX 860M]
modalias : pci:v000010DEd0000119Asv00001558sd00000376bc03sc00i00
vendor   : NVIDIA Corporation
driver   : nvidia-340 - third-party free
driver   : nvidia-367 - third-party free [COLOR=#ff0000]recommended[/COLOR]
driver   : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - distro free builtin
driver   : nvidia-358 - third-party free
driver   : nvidia-361 - third-party free
driver   : nvidia-364 - third-party free

as we see it is "recommending" nvidia-367 for me , and is in fact what is installed from the "Graphics drivers PPA"

you can then if you like what it has "recommended" for you just do

Code:

sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall

OR

if you know you want a diferent one ,,,,,,,,,lets say ,,,,,,,,"nvidia-340",,,,,,,,,,,,you can just do

Code:

sudo apt install  nvidia-340

VINNY

'

Out of interest, I tried the command from the live pendrive (Ubuntu 12.10).

I noticed

'ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubuntu-drivers devices
== /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0 ==
modalias : pci:v000010DEd000001D1sv00001028sd00000405bc03sc00 i00
model : G72 [GeForce 7300 LE]
vendor : NVIDIA Corporation
driver : nvidia-current - distro non-free recommended
driver : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - distro free builtin
driver : nvidia-current-updates - distro non-free
driver : nvidia-experimental-304 - distro non-free

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ '

driver : nvidia-current - distro non-free recommended

Does this mean that the current driver is the most suitable. I was hoping to see a free recommended driver. I would look for free alternatives.

Or, am I receiving this message because I am connecting to an old Ubuntu database, and I might get a differnet result when connecting using 16.04, or 16.04.1.

Finally, if you were in my position, would you insstall 16.04, or 16.04.1.

Best wishes.

A

PS. After being logged out on this site, on logging back in, I seem to have created a blog with this post. This was unintended

**acheron** · Aug 11, 2016, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by anonprivate View Post

Out of interest, I tried the command from the live pendrive (Ubuntu 12.10).

I noticed

'ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubuntu-drivers devices
== /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0 ==
modalias : pci:v000010DEd000001D1sv00001028sd00000405bc03sc00 i00
model : G72 [GeForce 7300 LE]
vendor : NVIDIA Corporation
driver : nvidia-current - distro non-free recommended
driver : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - distro free builtin
driver : nvidia-current-updates - distro non-free
driver : nvidia-experimental-304 - distro non-free

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ '

driver : nvidia-current - distro non-free recommended

Does this mean that the current driver is the most suitable. I was hoping to see a free recommended driver. I would look for free alternatives.

Or, am I receiving this message because I am connecting to an old Ubuntu database, and I might get a differnet result when connecting using 16.04, or 16.04.1.

k/ubuntu 12.10 is end of life a while back and so receives no updates, so generally not a good way to access what could be available for you on new releases.

In this case however as you have a fairly old card the nvidia-340 driver is still the latest supported for your card in 16.04.1, but I think with some bugfix compatibility updates.

The free nouveau driver works to a degree for many people, but it does lack support for some cards, does not implement GPU re-clocking except in a work in progress sense for a few set of cards, and just generally does not perform as well as the propitiatory nvidia driver. Hence, the Nvida driver is the recommended, which in most cases supports cards better.

Originally posted by anonprivate View Post

Finally, if you were in my position, would you insstall 16.04, or 16.04.1.

16.04.1 is 16.04, but with a new minor release and re-spun iso to include updates and bugfixes that have been releases since the original 16.04.

So 16.04.1 is what should usually be used now.

**anonprivate** · Aug 11, 2016, 05:55 AM

Thank you for responding

It looks like my current video driver is the best for my card.

My problem is that with vesrion 16.04.1, running from a live DVD, I notice flashing on the screen, some white lines, and occasional disconnections from the ISP. When 16.04 was installed on the hard drive, other than a very long boot up time, the programme then ran without problems.

If I install 16.04.1 to the hard disk are my graphical and other problems likely to abate or remain. If the latter, then surely I shoud re-install 16.04.

Best wishes.

A

**anonprivate** · Aug 13, 2016, 07:53 AM

I have now installed version 16.04.1

On running ubuntu-drivers device, I note that:

vendor : NVIDIA Corporation
model : G72 [GeForce 7300 LE]
driver : nvidia-304 - distro non-free recommended
driver : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - distro free builtin
driver : nvidia-304-updates - distro non-free

I am not sure if I have this recommended driver installed (nvidia-304 - distro non-free recommended).

I am still noting some graphical anomalies, e.g., flashes

**vinnywright** · Aug 13, 2016, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by anonprivate View Post

I have now installed version 16.04.1

On running ubuntu-drivers device, I note that:

vendor : NVIDIA Corporation
model : G72 [GeForce 7300 LE]
driver : nvidia-304 - distro non-free recommended
driver : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - distro free builtin
driver : nvidia-304-updates - distro non-free

I am not sure if I have this recommended driver installed (nvidia-304 - distro non-free recommended).

I am still noting some graphical anomalies, e.g., flashes

if you just installed then ,,,,,no you probably are on the "nouveau" diver if you have not installed an Nvidia one .

in a konsole do this

Code:

apt search nvidia-3

it will be a long list ,,,all the nvidia drivers that start with a 3 ,,,,,,,,you are looking for a "[installed]" at the end of one of the lines ,,,,like this

Code:

nvidia-361-updates/xenial 361.42-0ubuntu2 amd64
  Transitional package for nvidia-361

nvidia-361-updates-dev/xenial 361.42-0ubuntu2 amd64
  Transitional package for nvidia-361-dev

nvidia-364/xenial,now 364.19-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.6 amd64[COLOR=#ff0000] [installed][/COLOR]
  NVIDIA binary driver - version 364.19

nvidia-364-dev/xenial 364.19-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.6 amd64
  NVIDIA binary Xorg driver development files

if you do not see installed on the nvidia-340 one then ,,,,,,if you want to install it ,,,, do

Code:

sudo apt install nvidia-340

one more way to see what drivers are in use on a system is to run

Code:

lsmod

,,,, but you need to know what your looking for/at

VINNY

**anonprivate** · Aug 13, 2016, 10:26 AM

Thanks for replying

I see:

andrew@andrew-Dell-DM061:~$ apt search nvidia-3
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
nvidia-304/xenial 304.131-0ubuntu3 i386
NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.131

nvidia-304-dev/xenial 304.131-0ubuntu3 i386
NVIDIA binary Xorg driver development files

nvidia-304-updates/xenial 304.131-0ubuntu3 i386
NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.131

nvidia-304-updates-dev/xenial 304.131-0ubuntu3 i386
NVIDIA binary Xorg driver development files

nvidia-331/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-331

nvidia-331-dev/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-340-dev

nvidia-331-updates/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-340

nvidia-331-updates-dev/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-340-dev

nvidia-331-updates-uvm/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-340

nvidia-331-uvm/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-340

nvidia-340/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
NVIDIA binary driver - version 340.96

nvidia-340-dev/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
NVIDIA binary Xorg driver development files

nvidia-340-updates/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-340

nvidia-340-updates-dev/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-340-dev

nvidia-340-updates-uvm/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu2 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-340-updates

nvidia-340-uvm/xenial 340.96-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-340

nvidia-346/xenial 352.63-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-346

nvidia-346-dev/xenial 352.63-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-352-dev

nvidia-346-updates/xenial 352.63-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-346-updates

nvidia-346-updates-dev/xenial 352.63-0ubuntu3 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-352-updates-dev

nvidia-352/xenial 361.42-0ubuntu2 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-361

nvidia-352-dev/xenial 361.42-0ubuntu2 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-361-dev

nvidia-352-updates/xenial 361.42-0ubuntu2 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-361

nvidia-352-updates-dev/xenial 361.42-0ubuntu2 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-361-dev

nvidia-361/xenial 361.42-0ubuntu2 i386
NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.42

nvidia-361-dev/xenial 361.42-0ubuntu2 i386
NVIDIA binary Xorg driver development files

nvidia-361-updates/xenial 361.42-0ubuntu2 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-361

nvidia-361-updates-dev/xenial 361.42-0ubuntu2 i386
Transitional package for nvidia-361-dev

andrew@andrew-Dell-DM061:~$

Not sure which would be the best. Would I be better off installing one of the above - no flashing.

I also note that I get disconnected from the ISP and sometimes all the wifi connections disappear. I then need to reboot.

I wonder if there is a better networking manager?

**acheron** · Aug 13, 2016, 12:00 PM

The driver compatible with your card is nvidia-304

Later drivers will either have dropped compatibility altogether, or may be very hit and miss if you *could* persuade them to work.

**vinnywright** · Aug 13, 2016, 12:04 PM

Code:

ubuntu-drivers devices

recommended nvidia-340 for you ,,,,,,,,,,if you wish to try it ,,,,do

Code:

sudo apt install nvidia-340

is their a key to turn wifi on/of that you may be activating accidentally ?

dose "rfkill" show any devices it is aware of

Code:

vinny@vinny-Bonobo-Extreme:~$ rfkill list
0: hci0: Bluetooth
        Soft blocked: no
        Hard blocked: no
1: phy0: Wireless LAN
        Soft blocked: no
        Hard blocked: no

the next time the net drops out check rfkill and see if something has blocked it .

you can allso run it (rfkill)as a monitor in a terminal to display block/unblock events ,,,,,,,hear is an exampel.

Code:

vinny@vinny-Bonobo-Extreme:~$ rfkill event
1471110351.186936: idx 0 type 2 op 0 soft 0 hard 0  ]--------------------|
1471110351.187001: idx 1 type 1 op 0 soft 0 hard 0  ]--------------------| these are the 2 devices it is monitoring 
1471110467.466012: idx 1 type 1 op 2 [COLOR=#ff0000]soft 1[/COLOR] hard 0  >------------{this is me using networkmanager to put it(wifi) in "airplane" mode and just popped up in the terminal as it happened} 
1471110475.319107: idx 1 type 1 op 2 [COLOR=#0000ff]soft 0[/COLOR] hard 0 >-------------{this is me unblocking it and again popped up in the terminal as I unblocked it}

to quit the monitoring press ctrl+c ........

VINNY

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