Wanted to try Kubuntu for the first time but USB install will not load

[richie231186]

Update: I disabled some power sleep bios setting in BIOS and the usb seemed to run and I tried a full install of Kubuntu selection the auto option with "Use entire disk" and it then booted it up.

So one of two things are causing the problems it seems, the existing windows 10 install or this BIOS option I disabled. I'm restoring the laptop with windows 10 only again and will see
if it was the BIOS option or the fact of using the entire disk.

When I manually install Kubuntu for dual boot the procedure I mention before is correct?
SWAP 8gb
Ext4 /root 10gb
Ext4 /home 70gb

3 partitions alongside existing?
This is for UEFI

[Qqmike]

When I manually install Kubuntu for dual boot the procedure I mention before is correct?
SWAP 8gb
Ext4 /root 10gb
Ext4 /home 70gb

I would vote for less swap and more root. Like 6 GB swap (or even 4 GB). And 15 GB for root, just to be safe.

3 partitions alongside existing?

Those Linux partitions can be anywhere you wish.

Install Windows first, so it will set itself up (probably on sda2) and it will set up the ESP on sda1 (for UEFI, also to be used by your GRUB in your Kubuntu).

[Qqmike]

Let's not get side-tracked here or too complicated, but a leading poster at Kubuntu forums posted this on dual-booting Windows with Kubuntu with UEFI. You can probably skip most of these steps. Just an fyi.

https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65253

[logan01]

Let's not get side-tracked here or too complicated, but a leading poster at Kubuntu forums posted this on dual-booting Windows with Kubuntu with UEFI. You can probably skip most of these steps. Just an fyi.

https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65253

Heck, I thought you were speaking of me.

[Qqmike]

Ha! Funny tonight, huh? Those tornadoes hit down there? :-)

[richie231186]

Great guide, will follow. Just reinstalling windows 10 now. I'm hoping that the BIOS option (Power off Energy Saving, Also selecting windows 7 OS instead of windows 8) is the cause of the problem and not windows 10 :P


Well see how it goes and I'll report back if it's successful. I think this problem really comes down to bad BIOS settings for this Asus laptop or lack there of.

[logan01]

Ha! Funny tonight, huh? Those tornadoes hit down there? :-)

Thought you'd appreciate that. Not bad. Windy and stormy as all get out but no twisters with 20 miles or so. That time of year though.

[Qqmike]

richie231186: Well see how it goes and I'll report back if it's successful. I think this problem really comes down to bad BIOS settings for this Asus laptop or lack there of.

You might be right. We have an ASUS laptop in the house (Windows 8.1) that has a limited (but more or less usable) firmware setup utility. OTOH, I built (DIY) my Desktop PC with an ASUS H97-PLUS motherboard, and I'll tell ya, its UEFI firmware setup menus are extensive and complete and customizable to the nth degree, and easily so, too. Windows is usually the issue with store-bought laptops and desktops: makers do their best to dummy-down everything (I think including their user-accessible "BIOS" or firmware) so the user can easily manage/restore/fix/re-install/backup/deal-with/etc. their pre-installed Windows OS.

I'm reminded of Adam W's statement on things:

Recommendations

The following are AdamW’s General Recommendations On Managing System Boot, offered with absolutely no guarantees of accuracy, purity or safety.

• If you can possibly manage it, have one OS per computer. If you need more than one OS, buy more computers, or use virtualization. If you can do this everything is very simple and it doesn’t much matter if you have BIOS or UEFI firmware, or use UEFI-native or BIOS-compatible boot on a UEFI system. Everything will be nice and easy and work. You will whistle as you work, and be kind to children and small animals. All will be sweetness and light. Really, do this.

from:https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/0...lly-work-then/

Ha! He does go on with other more practical recommendations as well, but he has a point. In fact, although I am fairly proficient now with UEFI, and I do know Windows to some extent, I CHOOSE not to mess with that laptop (that the spousal unit uses here)--I have not installed any Kubuntu or Linux to dual boot with the pre-installed Windows 8.1 (soon to be upgraded to Win X). It's just not worth the possible maintenance hassle. OTOH, you always have some help: simply install (from within your Kubuntu/Linux) the excellent boot manager rEFInd from Rod Smith, and let it run the boot show with Windows; and/or keep rEFInd handy on a UEFI-bootable USB flash drive. (Btw, the spouse regularly expresses her preference for Kubuntu over Windows; long story, but I simply haven't taken time to wipe the laptop and re-do with Kubuntu; it all started out of "convenience": getting her up and running asap with her first laptop and needing Skype etc integrated and ready to run; and kind of an educational experiment to learn Windows 8.1 and next 10--but Windows is becoming a real PITA, ads and all.) [/end of philosophizing this morning]

[richie231186]

Yeah your are probably right about the one OS and the poor product quality of windows 10 now learning towards spying on you and advertising, though I really like to have windows installed with Linux encase it's needed for some application.


Turns out it was one of the two options screwing the boot, the power option or selecting windwos 7 OS. Though now Kubuntu crashes about every 20-60 minutes and just locks up and I have to try and deal with this new problem

[Qqmike]

Sounds like you installed 15.10 (rather than 14.04).

[richie231186]

Sounds like you installed 15.10 (rather than 14.04).

lol, yeah I did. I'm guessing thats bad :P

[Qqmike]

I'm guessing thats bad :P

Let's just say it is another variable. ;-)

[richie231186]

Let's just say it is another variable. ;-)

Oh well at least I solved the issue of installing and booting, I might try 14.0 because I tried ubuntu and it has no problems so obviously just some sort of issue with Kubuntu

[Qqmike]

I might try 14.0 because I tried ubuntu and it has no problems so obviously just some sort of issue with Kubuntu

Yes, do try Kubuntu because it is better than Ubuntu--ask anyone here!

The LTS is 14.04, as you know. You could see how it goes, play with it to get used to it. The next LTS is 16.04 coming soon (April 2016). I don't know much about it yet, probably has the Plasma DE ready, but you could wait and see, wait until after 16.04 has been out for a month or so, and decide whether to upgrade to 16.04. If you do go from 14.04 to 16.04, my opinion on it is to start from scratch: simply install 16.04 from the DVD/USB as you have done for 14.04. Make sure you have backed up your personal data to some drive or flash drives so it doesn't get run over by the new install of 16.04. That is, I wouldn't upgrade the 14.04 in-place to 16.04. IMO. And do consider making your USB using the dd method, not using Unetbootin or Disk Creator(s) or whatever other magic.

Oh well at least I solved the issue of installing and booting,

Yes, now you have maximal flexibility in deciding what to do, in general. You know how your UEFI works on that machine. And keep in mind rEFInd,
https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...l=1#post372221

[richie231186]

Thanks. Yeah i might install it tomorrow. I realized when using ubuntu how much i dislike its layout and menu system.