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    there's a downloadable flash drive version but it calls for downloading / using more software (dd disk copy utility or something similar), do I do that too?
    Kubuntu 14.04 / KDE 4.13.3 / GRUB Version: 0.97-29ubuntu66
    HP15 -
    -f033wm Laptop / CPU: Intel / GPU: Intel Corporation Atom Processor / RAM: 8GB / Hard Drive: 1 each / Seagate / Optical Drive: HP DVDRW GUB0N / Windows 10

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      Try to get into Kubuntu:

      using firmware boot menu?

      using rEFInd? (it will work!)

      using Boot Repair?
      An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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        ok I'm gonna do the boot deals.
        Kubuntu 14.04 / KDE 4.13.3 / GRUB Version: 0.97-29ubuntu66
        HP15 -
        -f033wm Laptop / CPU: Intel / GPU: Intel Corporation Atom Processor / RAM: 8GB / Hard Drive: 1 each / Seagate / Optical Drive: HP DVDRW GUB0N / Windows 10

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          there's a downloadable flash drive version but it calls for downloading / using more software (dd disk copy utility or something similar), do I do that too?
          I think dd is Linux only, not sure (I use it a lot). See post above about rEFInd -- must be a way to do this in Windows. As I said, I don't even look at Windows anymore except to maintain the wife's 8.1.
          An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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            Someone else here built a rEFInd using Windows; Rod Smith probably tells how on his site.
            http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/getting.html
            An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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              just the CD-R Image file, burned to a CD
              http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/getting.html
              BUT I did this in Kubuntu using k3b burning tool.
              Windows surely has a disk-burning tool.
              (Nero works, but I don't know if it is still used in Windows 10, or if it's free.)
              An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                Ok, I'll see what the deal is on copying the rEFInd thing. There was no untu nothing to boot in bios boot options or otherwise.
                Kubuntu 14.04 / KDE 4.13.3 / GRUB Version: 0.97-29ubuntu66
                HP15 -
                -f033wm Laptop / CPU: Intel / GPU: Intel Corporation Atom Processor / RAM: 8GB / Hard Drive: 1 each / Seagate / Optical Drive: HP DVDRW GUB0N / Windows 10

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                  yeah, just this:
                  refind-cd-0.8.7.iso
                  The CD-R image.
                  Burned to a CD using k3b or whatever disk-burning tool you know about or can find (I think you only have a Windows OS to boot into).
                  An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                    downloaded the flash drive version of rEFInd and extracted. It's folder contains files to include a disc image file named refind-flashdrive-0.9.0

                    Do I need some special tool to copy it to my flash drive instead of using the copy/paste function? The other files are all text files.

                    Copying
                    Credits
                    License
                    News
                    README-flashdrive
                    refind-flashdrive-0.9.0
                    SHELLS
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                    -f033wm Laptop / CPU: Intel / GPU: Intel Corporation Atom Processor / RAM: 8GB / Hard Drive: 1 each / Seagate / Optical Drive: HP DVDRW GUB0N / Windows 10

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                      I have no CDs. I do have flash drives.
                      Kubuntu 14.04 / KDE 4.13.3 / GRUB Version: 0.97-29ubuntu66
                      HP15 -
                      -f033wm Laptop / CPU: Intel / GPU: Intel Corporation Atom Processor / RAM: 8GB / Hard Drive: 1 each / Seagate / Optical Drive: HP DVDRW GUB0N / Windows 10

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                        copy/paste will not work to make that a bootable medium
                        (in Linux, we use dd to do this; google to see if there is a dd for Windows; I think I've heard of such, not sure)
                        An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                          I found iso to usb software. If I try to use it, am I only going to grab the disc image file named refind-flashdrive-0.9.0?
                          Kubuntu 14.04 / KDE 4.13.3 / GRUB Version: 0.97-29ubuntu66
                          HP15 -
                          -f033wm Laptop / CPU: Intel / GPU: Intel Corporation Atom Processor / RAM: 8GB / Hard Drive: 1 each / Seagate / Optical Drive: HP DVDRW GUB0N / Windows 10

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                            I think so, mine is
                            refind-flashdrive-0.9.0.img
                            and claims to be raw disk image.
                            I think that's the file Rod Smith says can be bunred (copied) using dd. I haven't tried any of this, only the old-fashioned CD. iso to usb ... how would that help? is the .img file and iso?
                            An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                              http://superuser.com/questions/839502/windows-equivalent-for-dd

                              http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
                              An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                                it's a .img file. nothing saying iso.

                                Found this definition: Comparison to ISO images[edit]

                                ISO images are another type of optical disc image files, which commonly use the .iso file extension, but sometimes use the .img file extension as well. They are similar to the raw optical disc images, but contain only one track with computer data obtained from an optical disc. They can not contain multiple tracks, nor audio or video tracks. They also do not contain the control headers and error correction fields of CD-ROM or DVD sectors that raw disc images usually store. Their internal format follows the structure of an optical disc file system, commonly ISO 9660 (for CDs) or UDF (for DVDs). The CUE/BIN and CCD/IMG formats, which usually contain raw disc images, can also store ISO images instead.
                                Kubuntu 14.04 / KDE 4.13.3 / GRUB Version: 0.97-29ubuntu66
                                HP15 -
                                -f033wm Laptop / CPU: Intel / GPU: Intel Corporation Atom Processor / RAM: 8GB / Hard Drive: 1 each / Seagate / Optical Drive: HP DVDRW GUB0N / Windows 10

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