When I open a new window, it opens hidden behind the existing window. Is this a conf

[Shabakthanai]

Every time I install an OS fresh, new and never before experienced wrinkles appear . Whenever I open a new window, The new window is hidden behind the existing window. I can get to it easy enough, but it is a pain in the NICTA. I find this problem written about extensively in reference to Windows 7 Operating Systems, but nothing in Kubuntu. Currently there does not seem to be a solution in the Windows apps, and nothing I can find written about in Kubuntu.

I keep trying to remember ticking a box somewhere in System Settings where the result is to have a current screen locked, but can't. It doesn't seem a logical need either. Has anyone experienced this and found a solution to the problem it creates? Thanks!

[Rod J]

Is there any particular window you are talking about? What application(s) do you mean? Is there a particular window/application that is always the window in the foreground?

There are a heap of settings (which I think is great, one of the many things I like about Kubuntu) that allow you to be very specific about where and how a window appears. Just right click on title of the window in question and see what settings may be selected. Maybe you have Advanced, "Keep above others" selected in the window/app that is causing the problem. There is also the "Special window settings..." and "Special application settings..." that might be set.

Personally, I like to do fresh install both of the OS and a create a new home partition when I upgrade. I have never done a distribution upgrade type install from an existing install yet, as I don't trust it to work perfectly and it's better to start from scratch (I think). As long as you backup your data files you can restore them to the new /home after the install.

I think that is why you are having so many issues with the installs because the new install keeps picking up settings/errors from the previous install contained in the existing /home. Another way to overcome that problem would be to rename the .kde folder to (say) .kde.old and then log out/in or restart the PC. Kubuntu should then recreate the .kde folder and in the process (hopefully) remove a lot of the problems you have been having. Of course there is a downside in that you would lose most of your current customisation settings too and would have to redo them.

[Shabakthanai]

Hi Rod,

This installation was a fresh install from a liveUSB 3.0 thumb drive. I believe it is a good installation, because everything is so crisp and fast when making changes. The reality is that any application Dolphin, Gimp, Kmail, Browsers, etc., all seem to be affected by this. One time I opened my browser about 10 times before I noticed that it was happening. I have taxed my brain about configuration and settings. I have done the process so many times, I seem familiar what to do and not do, but I suppose, on occasion I may notice something I am not familiar and try an alternative configuration to see what happens. It sure may be the case in this instance, because it seems to affect all applications.

I wanted to copy a recipe and the printer window opened under the existing window. I wanted to do a search on this problem to try to fix it without help; it was this time that I must have opened 8 or 10 browsers before I noticed the long list of taba indicating the browser.

I have been waiting to resolve the other issues I am currently dealing with before this post, but I guess it is time to fix it.

It occurred to me that since Google only had data on this error relating to Windows 7, it may have been something in the install that caused it. By the way, I right-clicked on this window but could not find any setting or configuration options. I will try Gimp and Kmail after I close this reply. Additionally, I have been through System Settings a couple of times and didn't notice anything unusual, but that isn't proof it isn't there; I sometimes look at a problem and it's there, but for some reason does not register as a problem; I may pass over it several times and feel like a fool when I finally recognized what I missed.

With reference to my desktop PC, I believe you are right, because it was an upgrade not a fresh install. I was trying to save re-installation time of the applications that have to be re-installed after a fresh install. I also avoided re-installation fresh, because I was certain the problems were caused by me, and did not want to appear lazy or unconcerned to my friends on the forum. I do not want to disturb the good relationship I seem to have with you guys. I waited a bit too long; it got very frustrating. When I fresh installed most all the problems were fixed with the installation. Only a few, never before experienced problems appeared. This is one of them. Cudos! My friend.

[Shabakthanai]

Rod,

I think that perhaps my failing HDD on the laptop may have caused the plethera of problems that appeared relating to it. It was unfortunate and perhaps misleading when both my computers were problematic at the same time.

I purchased a TB drive as replacement for the one going bad, and I am told it will arrive tomorrow. I have made many backups over the years, but never an entire HDD and am not sure it can be done in a single step. Hope so. In any event, when the HDD is replaced and the few new problems on my desktop PC are fixed, I suspect more help will be unnecessary for a while. I will still monitor the forum; occasionally even I have an answer to a problem, and I want to keep contact with you guys.

[Rod J]

The settings I was talking about are accessed by right clicking on the TITLE (at the top) of the window in question.

Just right click on title of the window in question and see what settings may be selected. Maybe you have Advanced, "Keep above others" selected in the window/app that is causing the problem. There is also the "Special window settings..." and "Special application settings..." that might be set.

[Shabakthanai]

It says: Move to Desktop, Move to Screen, Maximize, Minimize, under More Actions it says, Move, Resize, Keep Above Others, Keep Below Others, Fullscreen, Shade, No Border, Window Shortcut..., Special Window Settings..., Special Application Settings..., and Window Management Settings... then Close. Unless I am looking at the solution and not seeing it, I have been through all the options many times, even prior to posting. If the solutions is in there, I am not able to see it, which is still possible. Maybe I am thinking too hard.

Is there something you see and understand that I don't? It is a real pain, though, because I was going over all these settings to make my reply, several times I opened a window which was hidden behind the current screen, and still I didn't notice it immediately. I just kept trying to open documents that had already been opened behind the screen I was working from. It is making me nuts!

I feel a bit like I am being tested - forced to redo the work. That's OK with me, I will do anything to learn. You are a great friend; and if that was a presumption on my part, I apologize. A very frustrating situation

The settings I was talking about are accessed by right clicking on the TITLE (at the top) of the window in question.

[Shabakthanai]

This problem is driving me up a wall. Every time I open a new "anything at all" the window that opens is hidden behind the one on screen. No matter how hard I try, I never seem to remember. I end up opening several of the same pages thinking I missed something or perhaps actually did not click the request. There must be someone out there that has run across this problem. I hate to resort to another re-install of the OS and the configuration and installation efforts that will have to be repeated. Thanks anyone.

[SteveRiley]

Does the file ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc exist? If so, log out of the desktop, press Ctrl+Alt+F2 to switch to a console TTY, log in, delete that file, and log out. Press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to return to the desktop. Log in. Do some stuff. Did the problem go away?

[Shabakthanai]

I spent an hour or so using Qq,mike's Commands at Konsole: Beginners. I have tried to learn this using other people's advice, too, but I think it is because there is so much general information given before the instruction that applies to my need, that I become confused and unable to learn. Finally, I opened 'sudo Kate' thinking I could locate the document and delete the file that way, however when I tried, Kate did not include the '.' files, so I could not navigate to the kwinrulesrc to remove it. Can Kate be opened in root with the '.' files included? If so, how do I do that.

When I tried to use your path in the console TTY, I got a permission denied. I just don't know enough about using the command line to do what you recommend. It may be because I am right-brained, an artist; I am pretty sure we use a different train of thought to understand the same issues as a logical (left-brain) thinker. To learn what you learn by reading, I need examples, or someone to question during the learning process to obtain understanding.

The trouble is, I never have had a time when I had one-on-one access with a knowledgeable kubuntu user; and even trying to learn, by being helped by a knowledgeable Kubuntu user, can not be successfully accomplished easily, due to the lag time between question and response. That is why it has been so difficult for me all these years. I am not quite as stupid as I appear, I am just out of my element. The worst part is I am passionate in my love of computers and can't give it up.

Put you and me in a room with an easel, canvas, and paint, and you would see a painting almost explode into completion. To get a similar result you would have to do things produced out of the right part of your brain, but would be stuck using your left-brain. It would not be any easier for you to paint than it is for me to operate a computer.

I can assure you that if we were one-on-one I could guide you through the process to a successful finish. If you were learning by painting a cat, you may only be able to paint cats at a successful level until you had more of that one-on-one painting, let's say, a dog, or a tree, or someone's portrait, or even an abstract concept.

Among the things I have learned in operating Kubuntu, I can do pretty much as well as most others of the things I have learned, but unfortunately until I have my one-on-one with a kubuntu guru I will probably have to continue to struggle to do the things I have yet to learn. It is the very reason I commend your patience with me.

Dibl is the only person I know in my area that I have learned from one-on-one, and then not much instruction time, just him fixing some difficult problem that takes a kubuntu expert. Other than him, I don't know a single person who knows anything about kubuntu in my area. And Dibl came quite a distance when he helped me. I think the help came when he had to be in my area anyway. Or, more probably, just because he is such a great and kind guy.

I have gotten and can get again a konsole TTY, but have no idea how to delete the file once there. And yes, the file is there. By the way, Steve, I don't have a greed bone in my body and have the same difficulty dealing with financial people and financial problems, but here is a photo of something I made in a short period of time.



Cudos, friend.

Does the file ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc exist? If so, log out of the desktop, press Ctrl+Alt+F2 to switch to a console TTY, log in, delete that file, and log out. Press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to return to the desktop. Log in. Do some stuff. Did the problem go away?

[SteveRiley]

I wouldn't be so quick to ascribe left-brain vs. right-brain orientation here. In fact, modern science has relegated this contrived distinction into the dustbin:

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...ht-brain-myth/

Another popular myth bites the dust. The notion that people are dominantly left- or right-brained never had a solid foundation in neuroscience, and now the best evidence we have is convincingly negative. As myths go, this one is fairly benign, but not completely. Any time our understanding of the world is muddied with simplistic and incorrect notions, there is the potential for mischief. In this case, attempting to pigeonhole with a false binary label can be extremely counterproductive in interpersonal relationships and especially psychology. Such notions also are sometime applied to education with the belief that children have different learning styles that need to be catered to. This also does not appear to be true. Labeling people as left or right brained is no better than approaching people according to their astrological sign or blood type, except that it has the patina of neuroscience that may cause some otherwise-rational people to take the idea seriously.

More, from earlier research:
http://www.livescience.com/39373-lef...rain-myth.html
http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/1...n-relationship

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Back to the topic at hand. Here's what I wrote previously:

Does the file ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc exist? If so, log out of the desktop, press Ctrl+Alt+F2 to switch to a console TTY, log in, delete that file, and log out. Press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to return to the desktop. Log in. Do some stuff. Did the problem go away?

In the first question, I'm asking you to check whether a file exists. You can accomplish this in a variety of ways:

• Open Dolphin, go to your home directory, and continue descending down the indicated hierarchy, finally reaching the config folder and scrolling through the list of files to see if kwinrulesrc is there.
• Open a console window and type find ~ -iname kwinrulesrc. ~ is a shortcut for your home directory, and here serves to instruct the command where to begin searching for the file; it scans every subdirectory from this location. -iname tells the command to search for files with the specified name while ignoring upper/lower case. If the file exists, the command returns the full path to the file, like this: /home/steve/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc. If the file does not exist, the command returns nothing.
• Open a console window and type ls ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc. If the file exists, the command returns a one-line output containing the full path of the file. If the file doesn't exist, the command returns a No such file or directory error.

In the next sentence, I explain the steps necessary for removing the file, which has to be done when KDE isn't running. Logging out of the desktop and switching to a console TTY is how you accomplish this, for which I provided the key sequence. To delete the file, type rm ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc. rm is the command for removing (deleting) files.

[Shabakthanai]

I wouldn't be so quick to ascribe left-brain vs. right-brain orientation here. In fact, modern science has relegated this contrived distinction into the dustbin:

I have learned to not question what you say, but I am not so sure about their new contention. Remember right-brained guys are making that judgment, it is not a consensus of the two types, Hah! The way my intellectual life has been throughout the years, makes me wonder.

Certain types of problems where they are highly visible and complex as well give me instant understanding, while the real brain I am sitting next to is and saying, "how did you do that?" I don't feel so stupid when that happens. It is always an aesthetic or artistic complexity when it happens, never good old logical persuit of knowledge, very similar to the scientific vs. religion thing. Perhaps oil and water, Hah!

[Shabakthanai]

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Back to the topic at hand. Here's what I wrote previously:

Does the file ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc exist? If so, log out of the desktop, press Ctrl+Alt+F2 to switch to a console TTY, log in, delete that file, and log out. Press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to return to the desktop. Log in. Do some stuff. Did the problem go away?

In the first question, I'm asking you to check whether a file exists. You can accomplish this in a variety of ways:

• Open Dolphin, go to your home directory, and continue descending down the indicated hierarchy, finally reaching the config folder and scrolling through the list of files to see if kwinrulesrc is there.
• Open a console window and type find ~ -iname kwinrulesrc. ~ is a shortcut for your home directory, and here serves to instruct the command where to begin searching for the file; it scans every subdirectory from this location. -iname tells the command to search for files with the specified name while ignoring upper/lower case. If the file exists, the command returns the full path to the file, like this: /home/steve/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc. If the file does not exist, the command returns nothing.
• Open a console window and type ls ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc. If the file exists, the command returns a one-line output containing the full path of the file. If the file doesn't exist, the command returns a No such file or directory error.

In the next sentence, I explain the steps necessary for removing the file, which has to be done when KDE isn't running. Logging out of the desktop and switching to a console TTY is how you accomplish this, for which I provided the key sequence. To delete the file, type rm ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc. rm is the command for removing (deleting) files.

I believe I did as instructed, opened the console TTY and typed in the following:

rm ~/ .kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc and the computer returned that I could not remove a directory. Then thinking that I maybe misread and should have entered: rm ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc by not leaving the space between ~/ and .kde would correct the problem, however the computer, I believe, said the same thing about not being able to remove a directory. When I go to a console TTY, both my monitors read the same console, and I am required to remember both the data I use when I get there, as well as what comments were made when I return. That's tough for me anymore, I need the second screen to remind me what I just saw. Ouch, I hate it when the sanbox calls in the middle of a thought I always have to wonder what I was thinking about when I get back to resume the work anyway, things still appear underneath what is currently on screen. (By the way, there are only five people that I really trust in the world, GOD, my daughter, my two granddaughters, and you.) That is pretty exclusive territory. I would like to include my many friends among the members of the forum, and two are getting pretty close, but pathetically enough there are still really only five. And that's the most ever.

I hope there is something new to try. If you can just imagine clicking on a link and nothing happening, so you do it again, thinking perhaps your mouse's battery is low, or a hundred other possibilities .....thank GOD for tabs sometimes, because when you see 15 of them running across the top of the screen, each looking exactly the same, you finally remember that your computer likes to play games with you and put each link under the preceding link. Actually it is not as fun as it sounds. Cheers and Cudos, friend

[Shabakthanai]

Steve, look what happens when I do the following in the console:

steven@Yeshuah-desktop:~$ find ~ -iname kwinrulesrc
find: `/home/steven/.cache/dconf': Permission denied
steven@Yeshuah-desktop:~$ sudo find ~ -iname kwinrulesrc
[sudo] password for steven:
steven@Yeshuah-desktop:~$

Then:

steven@Yeshuah-desktop:~$ kdesudo ~ -iname kwinrulesrc
steven@Yeshuah-desktop:~$ sudo ~-iname kwinrulesrc
sudo: ~-iname: command not found
steven@Yeshuah-desktop:~$


I am trying to follow your instruction from the post. What am I doing wrong this time? I tried every possibility I could see to correct any possible mis-read by me or accidental mistake on your part, which I realize will never happen By the way, how do you highlight a phrase? Thanks

[Shabakthanai]

I read the article on right/left brain study you pointed out. It made me smile. I would never have even talked about the the different side of the brain thinking if it hadn't been so clear to me that there was something to it.

When an artist meets a scientist, they usually become friends. The reason, I believe, is that they formulate their thoughts so differently.

When I lived in San Diego, one of my few and best friends was a scientist who worked with Dr. Salk on certain ground-breaking issues. I am embarrassed to say that I am not sure of the spelling of his name, Dr. Osopey, I think. Anyway at the time he purchased one of my bowls for the huge at that time price of $400, if memory serves me correctly, which later broke unfortunately. (I put off replacing the bowl, I regret, until I could no longer do such a delicate work.) Most regrettable.

Nonetheless, and I cannot remember whether it was him or his wife, who is also a noted scientist, mentioned they saw an image of something in that fantastic microscope that sees things that are so small which looked precisely like another bowl I had made, form only, not carving and decorations. It was a bowl that I though was design special and that others had commented similarly. I also remember a dressed to the 10's lady that paid $100 for another bowl that I thought was special and priced at $100 thinking no one would buy it because similar bowls but not so special forms sold for about $2 at the time.

I remember pointing that out, and she simply said, something like, "I can see what I am looking at, and I want that one." She could afford it, but more importantly I knew that something that was special to me was also special to the proper owner of it.

Anyway, it was spartan times and the Osepey's invited me to dine on several occassions. We mused at how each was fairly decent at his work and neither could figure out how the other put his or their thoughts together to solve the problems of their different work. We were well suited to be close friends. It is a friendship I am proud to have had, and I don't even like the word pride. At the time, I remember they had direct access to one of the biggest computers in the world, something that would probably fit in an everyday laptop now.

And that's my take on right-brain/left-brain, perhaps more accurately stated as artist brain/scientific brain LOL.

Who really knows? Why the Shadow knows, don't you know

[SteveRiley]

rm ~/ .kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc and the computer returned that I could not remove a directory. Then thinking that I maybe misread and should have entered: rm ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc by not leaving the space between ~/ and .kde would correct the problem, however the computer, I believe, said the same thing about not being able to remove a directory.

Without the space is the correct format for the command.

But if you read carefully, I first asked you to verify if the file exists. I gave you three methods: using Dolphin, using the find command, and using the ls command. Nevertheless, let's verify. In the example below, I'm trying to remove the same file:

steve@t520:~$ rm ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc
rm: cannot remove ‘/home/steve/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc’: No such file or directory

Note that my attempt results in an error message: No such file or directory -- is this the same error you receive? If so, then you don't have this file and my first troubleshooting idea isn't correct.