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    Ati 9800 SE 3D

    Hi having problems getting 3D to work with my Graphics card (ATI 9800 SE). I've trawed through loads of suggestions from various sourses But no Luckl. here is the output from various commands. if anyone can help.

    modinfo fglrx

    /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko
    author: Fire GL - ATI Research GmbH, Germany
    description: ATI Fire GL
    license: Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY
    vermagic: 2.6.15-26-k7 SMP preempt K7 gcc-4.0
    depends: agpgart
    parm: firegl:s

    dmesg |grep agp && dmesg |grep fglrx

    [17179587.192000] Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
    [17179587.192000] agpgart: Detected NVIDIA nForce2 chipset
    [17179587.200000] agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xd0000000
    [17179589.120000] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 928 MBytes.
    [17179589.120000] [fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 8.27.10 [Jul 27 2006] on minor 0
    [17179609.132000] [fglrx:firegl_unlock] *ERROR* Process 5105 using kernel context 0

    Seems to be a problem with the last line?

    fglrxinfo

    OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
    OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
    OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)

    fglrxkonf.kmdr - tried using this but it just says - Mesa (fglrx not work) trying to set it does nothing
    I've edited the xorg.conf file and run the xserver set up program, i've installed fglrx from a console prior to logging in and when logged in
    I have an amd cpu so have tried with the K7 and i386 kernel

    Can anyone help please

    #2
    Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

    fglrxinfo says that you are using ati or vesa drivers.

    This is how i did it.

    My Way

    0 Backup xorg.conf ! >

    1 Install the xorg-driver-fglrx package
    sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
    (+fglrx-control - Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators)

    2 Add fglrx to /etc/modules. (This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded at the boot time)
    (kdesu kate /etc/modules - type fglrx)

    3 Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx"
    and
    Section "Device"
    Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"

    (You could reconfigure your graphic settings:
    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - and choose fglrx drivers)

    4 Reboot

    Testing

    $ fglrxinfo
    display: :0.0 screen: 0
    OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
    OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600 XT Generic
    OpenGL version string: 2.0.5814 (8.25.18)
    =>OK !

    More:

    Ubuntu Dapper Installation Guide
    http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide

    Configuring
    http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Configuring


    Helppers:

    Kommander script/gui for fglrx video driver:
    fglrxKonf
    http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43612

    kX Generator is a utilitty to configure the X server:
    http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=39085
    Before you edit, BACKUP !

    Why there are dead links ?
    1. Thread: Please explain how to access old kubuntu forum posts
    2. Thread: Lost Information

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      #3
      Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

      Thanx for the reply did what you said no difference here is the output of my Device Section:-

      Section "Device"
      Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. R350 AH [Radeon 9800 SE]"
      Driver "fglrx"
      Identifier "ATI Technologies,Inc. R350 AH [Radeon 9800 SE]" "ATI Technologies,Inc. R350 AH [Radeon 9800 SE]"
      EndSection


      Section "Monitor"
      Identifier "PHILIPS 109P"
      HorizSync 30-110
      VertRefresh 50-160
      Option "DPMS" "True"
      EndSection


      Section "Screen"
      Identifier "Default"
      Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. R350 AH [Radeon 9800 SE]"
      Monitor "PHILIPS 109P"
      DefaultDepth 24
      SubSection "Display"
      Depth 1
      Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
      EndSubSection
      SubSection "Display"
      Depth 4
      Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
      EndSubSection
      SubSection "Display"
      Depth 8
      Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
      EndSubSection
      SubSection "Display"
      Depth 15
      Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
      EndSubSection
      SubSection "Display"
      Depth 16
      Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
      EndSubSection
      SubSection "Display"
      Depth 24
      Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
      EndSubSection
      EndSection


      Section "ServerLayout"
      Identifier "Default Layout"
      Screen "Default Screen"
      InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
      InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
      InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
      InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
      InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
      EndSection


      Section "DRI"
      Mode 0666
      EndSection


      Section "Files"
      FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
      FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
      FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
      FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
      FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
      FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
      FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
      FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
      EndSection

      dont know if this helps

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        #4
        Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

        To get my ATI working with fglrx, I used...

        sudo apt-get update
        sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) #Okay if it is already installed
        sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
        sudo depmod -a
        sudo aticonfig --initial
        sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv

        More thorough directions and a troubleshooting guide can be found here...

        http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide

        Josh

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          #5
          Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

          Thanx tried it and no 3D

          Here's the output

          dad@DadsWorld:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
          Password:
          Reading package lists... Done
          Building dependency tree... Done
          linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-k7 is already the newest version.
          0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
          dad@DadsWorld:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
          Reading package lists... Done
          Building dependency tree... Done
          xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
          0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
          dad@DadsWorld:~$ sudo depmod -a
          dad@DadsWorld:~$ sudo aticonfig --initial
          Found fglrx primary device section
          Nothing to do, terminating.
          dad@DadsWorld:~$ sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
          Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
          Warning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
          Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
          Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-5

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            #6
            Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

            Sorry, I forgot to add that you need to reboot since the settings wont take effect till the next session. If it still doesn't work, I'm afraid I'm out of ideas.

            Josh

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              #7
              Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

              Thanx for your assistance.

              Is there any way i can remove all the things i've tried, as in my X11 there are half a dozen backups of things etc. What i mean is remove the ati driver, fglrx etc and i'll start from scratch without having to re-install Kubuntu, then i can try all the things suggested again

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                #8
                Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

                You could use the oldest xorg.conf (backup) or make new with
                sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.

                about reinstall:

                From Apt Howto:
                http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ap.../index.en.html

                apt-get clean removes everything except lock files from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/. Thus, if you need to reinstall a package APT should retrieve it again.
                and

                If you somehow damage an installed package, or simply want the files of a package to be reinstalled with the newest version that is available, you can use the --reinstall option like so:

                # apt-get --reinstall install gdm

                My xorg.conf example:

                # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
                #
                # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
                # values from the debconf database.
                #
                # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
                # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
                #
                # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
                # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
                # package.
                #
                # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
                # again, run the following commands:
                #
                # cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
                # sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'
                # sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

                Section "Files"
                FontPath "unix/:7100" # local font server
                # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
                FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
                FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
                FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
                FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
                FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
                FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
                FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
                FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
                # paths to defoma fonts
                FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
                FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
                EndSection

                Section "Module"
                Load "bitmap"
                Load "dbe"
                Load "ddc"
                Load "dri"
                SubSection "extmod"
                Option "omit xfree86-dga"
                EndSubSection
                Load "freetype"
                Load "glx"
                Load "int10"
                Load "record"
                Load "type1"
                Load "vbe"
                EndSection

                Section "InputDevice"
                Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
                Driver "keyboard"
                Option "CoreKeyboard"
                Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
                Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
                Option "XkbLayout" "fi"
                EndSection

                Section "InputDevice"
                Identifier "Configured Mouse"
                Driver "mouse"
                Option "CorePointer"
                Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
                Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
                Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
                Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
                EndSection

                Section "Device"
                Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 XT (RV350 AR)"
                Driver "fglrx"
                BusID "PCI:3:0:0"
                Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
                Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
                EndSection

                Section "Monitor"
                Identifier "Generic Monitor"
                Option "DPMS"
                HorizSync 30-64
                VertRefresh 48-100
                EndSection

                Section "Screen"
                Identifier "Default Screen"
                Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 XT (RV350 AR)"
                Monitor "Generic Monitor"
                DefaultDepth 24
                SubSection "Display"
                Depth 1
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
                EndSubSection
                SubSection "Display"
                Depth 4
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
                EndSubSection
                SubSection "Display"
                Depth 8
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
                EndSubSection
                SubSection "Display"
                Depth 15
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
                EndSubSection
                SubSection "Display"
                Depth 16
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
                EndSubSection
                SubSection "Display"
                Depth 24
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
                EndSubSection
                EndSection

                Section "ServerLayout"
                Identifier "Default Layout"
                Screen "Default Screen"
                InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
                InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
                EndSection

                Section "DRI"
                Mode 0666
                EndSection
                Before you edit, BACKUP !

                Why there are dead links ?
                1. Thread: Please explain how to access old kubuntu forum posts
                2. Thread: Lost Information

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                  #9
                  Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

                  Thanx

                  I noticed one thing though I do not have Option

                  "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"

                  in my config file is this my problem? (see below) if so how do I fix it?

                  Section "Device"
                  Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. R350 AH [Radeon 9800 SE]"
                  Driver "fglrx"
                  Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
                  Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
                  BusID "PCI:2:0:0"
                  EndSection

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                    #10
                    Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

                    Hmm - to me it's from kubuntu 5.04 (hoary). Back then it was:

                    If you have an nforce2 chipset motherboard or if your Xorg.0.log reveals troubles when initialising AGP, put this in the Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
                    I have nforce.

                    I have found this:

                    # === Use internal AGP GART support? ===
                    # If OpenGL acceleration doesn't work, try using "yes" here
                    # and disable the kernel agpgart driver.
                    Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
                    It's from here: http://www.stanchina.net/~flavio/deb...installer.html

                    So maybe Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "yes" helps ?
                    Before you edit, BACKUP !

                    Why there are dead links ?
                    1. Thread: Please explain how to access old kubuntu forum posts
                    2. Thread: Lost Information

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                      #11
                      Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

                      Oops - seems that you have nforce:

                      [17179587.192000] agpgart: Detected NVIDIA nForce2 chipset
                      So maybe Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" helps ?

                      Before you edit, BACKUP !

                      Why there are dead links ?
                      1. Thread: Please explain how to access old kubuntu forum posts
                      2. Thread: Lost Information

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                        #12
                        Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

                        Hi

                        Away at friends till Monday will try it then

                        Thanx for your help

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                          #13
                          Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

                          Hi

                          tried that no difference

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                            #14
                            Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

                            Strangest thing just happened downloaded the xorg core update which screwed up the system downgraded the xorg core and guess what I HAVE 3D WORKING

                            display: :0.0 screen: 0
                            OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
                            OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9800 SE Generic
                            OpenGL version string: 2.0.5946 (8.27.10)

                            then upgraded to the fixed core and its still working YIPPEEE

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                              #15
                              Re: Ati 9800 SE 3D

                              Heh - Mysterious are the ways of the Penquin.



                              Before you edit, BACKUP !

                              Why there are dead links ?
                              1. Thread: Please explain how to access old kubuntu forum posts
                              2. Thread: Lost Information

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