Why does Kubuntu use so much memory?

[pegazuz]

Re: Why does Kubuntu use so much memory?

Would Kubuntu run better or faster if I increased my ram from 1 GB to 2 GB. I am running Kubuntu 6.06 from an external hard drive in 32 bit mode on laptop that has 64 x2 Turion chip. If i decide to keep Windows and do a dual boot I might upgrade to Vista since I read more ram would be helpful to run Vista. Would it also help Kubuntu in either 64 bit mode or 32 bit mode?

[Nakrull]

Re: Why does Kubuntu use so much memory?

kubuntu should run fine with 1gb but if you have the money it will certainly not hurt kubu
for vista ask ms guys

if kubu runs better on 32 or 64 open a console and type

sudo lshw
it will print tons of data from your system
find the processor part almost at the beginning

*-cpu
description: CPU
product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 3.06GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 4
bus info: cpu@0
version: 15.4.9
serial: 0000-0F49-0000-0000-0000-0000
slot: Socket 775
size: 3059MHz
capacity: 4GHz
width: 64 bits
clock: 133MHz
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic
sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
x86-64 constant_tsc up pni monitor ds_cpl tm2 cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm

if the x86-64 is there then your free to go for 64bit

[Cyrus Jones]

Re: Why does Kubuntu use so much memory?

Would it also help Kubuntu in either 64 bit mode or 32 bit mode?

I use Kubuntu Edgy 64-bit. I like it, but one issue is the fact that there are fewer packages on repos for 64-bit computers. Flash is another major issue because there is no Linux Adobe Flash Player for 64-bit (this can be remedied by using a 32-bit browser with 32-bit Flash)

I recommend checking out this post:
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/lin...bit-linux.html

[pegazuz]

Re: Why does Kubuntu use so much memory?

kubuntu should run fine with 1gb but if you have the money it will certainly not hurt kubu
for vista ask ms guys

if kubu runs better on 32 or 64 open a console and type

sudo lshw
it will print tons of data from your system
find the processor part almost at the beginning

*-cpu
description: CPU
product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 3.06GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 4
bus info: cpu@0
version: 15.4.9
serial: 0000-0F49-0000-0000-0000-0000
slot: Socket 775
size: 3059MHz
capacity: 4GHz
width: 64 bits
clock: 133MHz
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic
sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
x86-64 constant_tsc up pni monitor ds_cpl tm2 cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm

if the x86-64 is there then your free to go for 64bit

I get this under CPU

-cpu
product: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 1
bus info: cpu@0
version: 15.8.2
size: 800MHz
capacity: 800MHz
width: 64 bits
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy cpufreq
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 0
size: 128KB
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 1
size: 256KB
Is there any manual telling what all these capabilities are or what those terms mean?
It seems the cache is rather small. Will this create any bottlenecks?

[Nakrull]

Re: Why does Kubuntu use so much memory?

well if you get bottlenecks then see the intel
so don't worry about procc cache you can see it in my specs
you have more than i do but linux works perfect exept for the errors I create

*-cpu
description: CPU
product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 3.06GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 4
bus info: cpu@0
version: 15.4.9
serial: 0000-0F49-0000-0000-0000-0F64
slot: Socket 775
size: 3059MHz
capacity: 4GHz
width: 64 bits
clock: 133MHz
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic
sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
x86-64 constant_tsc up pni monitor ds_cpl tm2 cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
configuration: id=0
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 5
slot: L1-Cache
size: 16KB
capacity: 16KB
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies data
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 6
slot: L2-Cache
size: 256KB
capacity: 256KB
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies unified


just to say i have no clue on what all mean but 3dnow is for better 3d games
as you can see the Intel dosent even support 3dnow
mmx is also for games
they all change over time so there is almost no standard now except the ones needed for compatibility

x86-64 is for 64bit processing there might be a lack of software and drivers but thats gona change
almost all procc are 64 bit now
the progs that are 64bit will work at 64bit and it wont change to much for 32bit
lots of 32bit application run under 64bit not at fastest level but they work
but if you install 32bit you wont be able to use 64bit thats the drawback
and when the 64bit progs come available youll have to reconfigure your kernel or reinstall to 64bit

do you game a lot

miscellaneous question
why does the AMD Thurion x2 only have 800mhz capacity if it is 64bit it must be new so why only 800mhz

[Cyrus Jones]

Re: Why does Kubuntu use so much memory?

SSE, SSE2, SSE3, MMX, 3DNOW are all optimizations your computer can support
(i.e. Swiftfox- optimized Linux Firefox build)
They are useful if you want to compile yourself using special optimizations or if you want to use an optimized build of an application like Swiftfox

[pegazuz]

Re: Why does Kubuntu use so much memory?

do you game a lot

miscellaneous question
why does the AMD Thurion x2 only have 800mhz capacity if it is 64bit it must be new so why only 800mhz

No I don't game much and the ATI video in this Acer 5102 is considered at best marginal for any demanding games. The Turion is listed on the outside as 1.6 Ghz with 512 KB L2 Cache. I guess since it has two processors they add them together to get total for the CPU. but from what i read 1.6 is marginal for running Vista as would be the 1 GB RAM and internal share ram ATi graphics. The outside confirms this by saying this machine is Vista Capable. Not READY. I take this to mean it might sort of run but not very well as it is.

I am using Kubuntu now most of the time to surf the net. I think I will upgrade memory to 2 GB ram in a couple months and try running 64 bit Kubuntu for my main usage. I don't know whether to leave 98 Multimedia on it for dual boot or switch that part to Vista or erase it if Kubuntu then has all drivers I need for things like internal card reader, orbi cam, etc.

[Nakrull]

Re: Why does Kubuntu use so much memory?

don't believe everything vista says, most of my games tell me that my pc is marginal, but after some tweaking the run like on fire and that goes for all OS's also

post your driver issues under the driver section they will surely help you get them