Some Programs Hang

[Xplorer4x4]

Let me clarify: I figured to be through I would wait for further instructions to see if this is a sign of deeper system trouble, but if not I will gladly diagnose and repair this problems myself.

[vinnywright]

would not system settings>user management work for you ?

a quick look at "man useradd" will tell you you should use "adduser" on Debian distributions like Kubuntu !!!

just a sudo adduser will walk you thru all the way to a password , if I remember right

VINNY

[Xplorer4x4]

would not system settings>user management work for you ?

a quick look at "man useradd" will tell you you should use "adduser" on Debian distributions like Kubuntu !!!

just a sudo adduser will walk you thru all the way to a password , if I remember right

VINNY

I can't see why it wouldn't,but this is one task i have the habbit of using from a cli.

I typically find man pages are not as noob friendly as google.

As for adduser vs useradd, it was ages ago so maybe I typed it backwards but I am pretty sure adduser does not walk you all the way through on debian stable or ubuntu(precise) as I set up a basic multiuser ubuntu server the other week and do not recall being walked through passwd after creating the user, but then again it does run a modified openvz kernel(if memory serves me right) with(i guess) some sort of nx optimizations as it is listed as Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin + x2go on the servers distro installation cp.

I just never experienced this problem before so wanted to be thorough. Perhaps it was a simple case of getting the words switched around as I used to do some basic work on a CentOS server and VPS for a few years. I am headed to bed atm and will double check with addusr tomorrow.

Sent from my DROID2 Global

[sumski]

I don't even have to google:
http://i.imgur.com/cMeMJ.png
You can achieve the same effect with both commands, but the difference is in the defaults. Report back what happens if you use adduser

[Xplorer4x4]

Not sure what you mean by the difference is in the defaults. I assume you mean that adduser and useradd execute different variables by default? I noticed you were right @vinnywright, adduser does walk you through. Perhaps I was using useradd when I was trying Debian and Ubuntu but in both cases it did automatically create the home dir. I wonder if sudo vs root played an issue as the root login has to be used by default on the Ubuntu distro offered by OVH(again it is customized)/

Anyways useradd/adduser aside, I created a new user and tested the find and extract service menu. I only tested it twice, but feel confident in reporting the system did not lock up at all while konsole was doing extraction. So where should we go from here?

Also, I have noticed that this really doesn't seem to happen with in any other apps now but it does happen when Vuze(and kTorrent) tries to do a hash check. Konquer and Amarok were culprits as well, but they seem to work much better since using your builds from git Sumski.

[sumski]

If i understand correctly, you experience hangs with new user, only when Vuze/KTorrent are checking the data? Or there are some other triggers?

[Xplorer4x4]

No I did not experience any hang with a new user. I only experience system lock ups with my default user account. The system locking up basically seems to be related to any major activity on my HDDs such as extraction a single set of split rar archives, torrent hash checking, and well I can not think of any other particular events but it seems to be related to HDD activity on any HDD. I have not tested an extraction on my SSD which is my OS drive.

[Xplorer4x4]

Update: Tested extraction of a 1+GB file on my SSD and experienced no freezes what so ever.

To break down the HDDs in my sig a bit more:
1 of the 1 TBs is a caviar green and the other is a caviar black. Both are SATAII drives.
1 of the 2TBs is a caviar black SATAII and the other is a caviar green but it is a SATAIII(3) HDD.

[Xplorer4x4]

I thought the Xorg updates the other day had resolved the issue, but I was wrong. Any other ideas?

[Xplorer4x4]

Am I missing a blatantly obvious solution since no one is bothering to help anymore? It is obviously a software issue, but how can I find what package could be causing the issue?

[Xplorer4x4]

I guess the only step I can take now is to reinstall Kubuntu one more time before resorting to my Windows back up.

[sumski]

Have you looked the output of

 dmesg

?
Also, check ksysguard when you try to do some HDD activity, you can add aditional info's:
http://i.imgur.com/r7qWE.png
You can also change priority of procesess

[Xplorer4x4]

dmesg:

[14789.752280] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Unhandled error code
[14789.752281] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[14789.752283] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 46 00 00 01 00
[14789.752286] end_request: I/O error, dev sdd, sector 70

I have a ton of these errors(well about 70). I am guessing you guys reading this will realize that the hostbyte changes a bit for each sector, and sector changes as well. I think that should be sufficient rather then a long pastebin full of the same error.

As for ksysguard, I looked at it before while doing extraction, and did not notice anything out of the ordinary, but I will double check it. ATM, when I use my "search for archives" service menu, konsole is not even showing up to do the out put.

Since the problem seems tied to I/O activity, I wonder if hot swapping my drives could be an issue. I use NTFS Tools to make sure HDDs auto mount but as best as I can recall, the problem was there before doing that. I might give my cheapo RAID card(one of those cheap $30 PCI(not PCI-X) another chance to avoid hot swapping but the driver support sucks and I believe it is built for a 2.X kernel not 3.X. It worked good on Win 7 until I did a format and clean install of windows(after a major hardware upgrade) and then it frequently prevented windows form booting past the windows logo screen. Maybe linux will play better with it. For what it's worth it's a Silicon Image 3124 chipset on the card. It is marketed as Rosewill brand, but shipped in a box that says I/O Crest.

That may be useless info, but just throwing out bits of information that may help pin point the problem...I honestly am thinking it may be worth a clean install and trying to slowly install and test or set up a VM for testing sake as I am still experimenting with applications a bit to fond which ones work best, if there is a Qt alternative to a GTK+ app,etc. I LOVE Kubuntu and really do not have a desire to switch back to Win, but atleast in Windows I can trouble shoot stuff on my own majority of the time as I have used it since the Win 3.1/DOS days(so I am not afraid of a little cli even though users barley need the dos type environment in windows these days.

[sumski]

That error is an indication of hardware issue, most likely your HDD('s) are smoked
Try to check them with MHDD, or some other utility
http://hddguru.com/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/
http://www.howtogeek.com/?post_type=post&p=37659
With ext4 filesystems you can blacklist bad blocks, don't know is it possible for NTFS
EDIT:
It *could* be a kernel issue, i would try live CD's with some other kernel versions (not necessary Kubuntu)
Also, it seems WD has some tools:
http://support.wdc.com/product/downl...fDesktop_Black

[Xplorer4x4]

I will run the test(s) and get back to you shortly but I highly doubt all my HDDs and SSD are biting the dust at the same exact time. Also, right before abandoning windows, I know the health on all the HDDs was 100% and the SSD was at like a 93-95% acording to HDD Sentinel.