impossible to update software!

[cayman]

As a newcomer to linux, I am trying to install Kubuntu 6.06 LTS onto my system. (dual boot-win XP ).
My system is an Epox 8KDA3J motherboard with Nforce 3 250gb chipset, amd 64 3000+ proc, 1Gb ram. broadband connection.
The install goes normally until the installation of apt manager. When trying to get updates it sits at 1% with nothing happening, before producing an error message that it cannot reach update servers. Installation then proceeds to the end. When running the system I can use Konqueror to browse the internet with no problem. I can also browse my home network with no problem. However Adept will not get any updates. Using a Konsole and using “sudo apt-get update” and using my password produces the following line “0% [connecting to kubuntu.org (1.0.0.00)]”

If anyone can shed some light on this it would be much appreciated.

I have tried installing other Linux systems (ubuntu, pclinux, mandriva,) with the same results.
Thanks in advance

cayman
This is a part copy of the installation file for Adept. Removing the “#” from the archive lines makes no difference to the result.

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted

Thanks

[Fenyx]

Re: impossible to update software!

Well:

1. Removing the # will work. You just have to remove it from the correct lines.

deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted

deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted

deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted

deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted

2. It seems that the gb.archive.ubuntu.com servers are having some problems. So try changing all gb. in those lines into uk.

You can edit your repositories right within Adept.
1. Launch Adept (K Menu > System). It will ask for your password
2. Go to the Adept menu > Manage Repositories
3. Right-click on the lines I listed and choose "Enable".
4. Click on Apply at the bottom, then click on Fetch Updates in the toolbar.

That would (usually) work. Hope it does for you.

[pross]

Re: impossible to update software!

For a FAST uk mirror ..instead of this...

deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted

try this...

deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
deb-src http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
deb-src http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted

hope it helps!

[cayman]

Re: impossible to update software!

Thanks for the help.
I did as you suggested Jucato with the following result.

All went well until I clicked on " fetch updates ". The next 40mins were spent watching the " waiting for headers " line gradually going up to 19%, when it closed saying that no updates were available.

I then changed to a fast uk mirror as suggested by pross. The result was similar in that I got to the same message about headers, but it stayed on 0% until going back to the original screen saying no updates available!

If I can browse the internet why does some parts of the operating system not know?
Any further help would be appreciated. In Win XP it just works!!

Thanks

[Fenyx]

Re: impossible to update software!

Can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list again? The problem might be due to the UK servers having some problems or some router/DNS problems. I'm no expert on routers and DNS, unfortunately...

[cayman]

Re: impossible to update software!

Hi jucato,
Here is the info requested. I hope you can make sense of it! You will notice the lines that say " commented out...), those were put in when installing the system the first time. It was the same when I installed other operating systems.
Thanks for the help.

deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb-src http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb-src http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
deb-src http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe

[Nirvana]

Re: impossible to update software!

post the output from a konsole of sudo apt-get update

[cayman]

Re: impossible to update software!

Here is a copy of what happened when get update was run. Hope it helps.

jerry@jerry-linux:~$ sudo apt-get update
Password:
Errhttp://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Errhttp://www.mirrorservice.org dapper Release.gpg
Could not connect to www.mirrorservice.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Errhttp://kubuntu.org dapper Release.gpg
Could not connect to kubuntu.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Errhttp://www.mirrorservice.org dapper-updates Release.gpg
Could not connect to www.mirrorservice.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Errhttp://www.mirrorservice.org dapper-backports Release.gpg
Could not connect to www.mirrorservice.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/...er/Release.gpg Could not connect to kubuntu.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Failed to fetch http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...er/Release.gpg Could not connect to www.mirrorservice.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Failed to fetch http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...es/Release.gpg Could not connect to www.mirrorservice.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Failed to fetch http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/a...ts/Release.gpg Could not connect to www.mirrorservice.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/di...ty/Release.gpg Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Reading package lists... Done
W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
jerry@jerry-linux:~$

[askrieger]

Re: impossible to update software!

I suspect that your problem may have something to do with site verification. Yet another possibility is that your ISP is throttling your downloads. Yet another possibility is that the sites really are busy. In that case see below.

Please go to http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic and follow the instructions there to get two new /etc/apt/aources.list files. For the first one, enter the country code gb. for the second one use the country code "nz" (12 hours of time difference) Pay special attention to the lines about how to use key signatures. Copy both files into the /etc/apt directory with the names sources.list.gb and sources.list.nz When you're awake at the usual time and wish to download start with the following line of code

sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list.nz /etc/apt/sources.list

on the other hand, if you're a night owl (like me) use

sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list.gb /etc/apt/sources.list

This strategy means you'll always be downloading from a quiet site, but one that uses your language preferences.

[cayman]

Re: impossible to update software!

Thanks for the suggestions. I do not have a problem with downloads from my ISP, I then followed your next suggestion. The only result I got was a box saying " downloading package information, file 1 of 3 " for about 5 minutes with no indication on my router that there was anything happening, then a box came up saying " could not download ". This was the same using both gb and nz.

I find it strange that I can browse and download manually but the program designed to update everything, does not!

This is getting frustrating!!

any further help?

Thanks

[askrieger]

Re: impossible to update software!

A thought jus occured to me. Are you behind a proxy server? If so, you may have to enter that fact separately for apt (whcih is also the backend for Adept Update Manager) from the entry you made for Firefox, Kmail, etc. I don't have a proxy so I'm not too clear on how to do that.

[cayman]

Re: impossible to update software!

No I am not behind a proxy server. I have a direct connection to my ISP ( broadband ). To add some more info, in Kubuntu, Firefox would not connect to internet but Konqueror would. I have now installed Mepis and firefox , out of the box will talk to the internet. How strange! Also Thunderbird works which it did not in Kubuntu.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks