And here we are again. I'm writing from a working kubuntu 11.10 installed on a new hard disk. Yes, "working". I failed to see that the problem could really be the hard disk 'cause only 12 hours before another one broke on me (an external one, though), and that seemed too much of coincidence. Instead that's what it was, coincidence and some real bad luck.
So the problem was in the hardware, right. And if I'd kept using windos 7 (which was not complaining) I'd probably would have ended up loosing sensible data and being very angry at microsoft. Right.
@Snowhog: ok, the first post had some "kubuntu sucks" touch. Just a slight touch, though. I was nervous because everything I tried failed to work and I'll recognize that. That also depends on the fact that the previous installation of 11.10 I did on my other laptop (the one with the nvdia on board) also ended up with problems (couldn't make kde work for a while), so it seemed there was a pattern.
But I keep my opinion, in the face of DoYouKubuntu (and his friends' and relatives') luck. This system is not (still) for everyone. The fault is not the developer's, sure, but of those vendors that keep the code closed. And I suspect some of the problems could depend also on some complexity in the libraries' architecture (you know, the freedom to fork comes with a price; I won't venture on this side, I don't know enough of the matter).
But, just to make an example, after installing 11.10 my fan was always on and I had to find, download and compile proper drivers for my ati graphic card to address that problem. Ok, I could have also used jokey-kde, but the usual newb doesn't know even about it. He (or she, by the way) would have kept that noise in the background wondering if everything was okay, running benchmark softwares or trying to understand which could have been the problem. Nowhere during the installation is stated clearly that the drivers kubuntu is installing could be not the best ones for your graphic card and that you could experience a problem like that. No one advise our friendly newb about the chance that muon always crashes as soon as you launch it. Or that you have to add a repository if you want to download skype (a repository, godness, what's a repository? A terminal? What do you mean? In the airport?). I'm just making a list of the first, easy to address problems I encountered in these first two days.
Do I mean that for these reasons kubuntu sucks? Not at all. I know (almost) what I do when I install it. I love it. I'd shoot myself on my foot before I'd go back to windos. We all know how bigger, fatter and nastier are windos' problems. But I keep thinking that we (I mean, "we" the good, brave and fair people who want a better future for humanity's computing) should be more honest than we are when selling this system to new users.
You say I'm just unlucky. Well ok, obviously I can't answer to that. Next time I'll have problems I'll contact a psychic
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I still think I'll be forever newb.
Bye (and thanks for your comprehension to all of you)
Giovanni
So the problem was in the hardware, right. And if I'd kept using windos 7 (which was not complaining) I'd probably would have ended up loosing sensible data and being very angry at microsoft. Right.
@Snowhog: ok, the first post had some "kubuntu sucks" touch. Just a slight touch, though. I was nervous because everything I tried failed to work and I'll recognize that. That also depends on the fact that the previous installation of 11.10 I did on my other laptop (the one with the nvdia on board) also ended up with problems (couldn't make kde work for a while), so it seemed there was a pattern.
But I keep my opinion, in the face of DoYouKubuntu (and his friends' and relatives') luck. This system is not (still) for everyone. The fault is not the developer's, sure, but of those vendors that keep the code closed. And I suspect some of the problems could depend also on some complexity in the libraries' architecture (you know, the freedom to fork comes with a price; I won't venture on this side, I don't know enough of the matter).
But, just to make an example, after installing 11.10 my fan was always on and I had to find, download and compile proper drivers for my ati graphic card to address that problem. Ok, I could have also used jokey-kde, but the usual newb doesn't know even about it. He (or she, by the way) would have kept that noise in the background wondering if everything was okay, running benchmark softwares or trying to understand which could have been the problem. Nowhere during the installation is stated clearly that the drivers kubuntu is installing could be not the best ones for your graphic card and that you could experience a problem like that. No one advise our friendly newb about the chance that muon always crashes as soon as you launch it. Or that you have to add a repository if you want to download skype (a repository, godness, what's a repository? A terminal? What do you mean? In the airport?). I'm just making a list of the first, easy to address problems I encountered in these first two days.
Do I mean that for these reasons kubuntu sucks? Not at all. I know (almost) what I do when I install it. I love it. I'd shoot myself on my foot before I'd go back to windos. We all know how bigger, fatter and nastier are windos' problems. But I keep thinking that we (I mean, "we" the good, brave and fair people who want a better future for humanity's computing) should be more honest than we are when selling this system to new users.
You say I'm just unlucky. Well ok, obviously I can't answer to that. Next time I'll have problems I'll contact a psychic
.I still think I'll be forever newb.
Bye (and thanks for your comprehension to all of you)
Giovanni
Now THOSE were the days, installing everything at a command line, configuring/tweaking the kernel to optimize it for your hardware, doing your own compiling...fond memories. (I'm serious. I LOVED it! But I also love the vast improvements since then.)
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