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    Should 10.04 run okay on my desktop/hardware?

    I read that (K)Ubuntu was pulling chipset support here:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
    As support for the i386, i486, i586 chipsets has been dropped from both the kernel and GCC by Ubuntu from the 10.10 series onwards, lubuntu will continue to backport to the ppa updates for 10.04.
    I'm assuming I might be okay with 10.04 on my box (spec's below) but await input and wonder what the future holds for my no-budget computing future.

    Many thanks.

    Specifications follow:
    _____________________

    kubuntu 8.04 NOT Wubi

    KDE 3.5.10

    Grub version: 0.97-29ubuntu21.2

    No other O.S. installed

    Desktop

    AMD 32bit AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+

    GPU

    CPU info; bash: lscpu: command not found

    ---------
    Running lshw gets:
    description: Computer
    width: 32 bits
    *-core
    description: Motherboard
    physical id: 0
    *-memory
    description: System memory
    physical id: 0
    size: 703MiB
    *-cpu
    product: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
    physical id: 1
    bus info: cpu@0
    version: 6.10.0
    size: 18EHz
    width: 32 bits
    capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
    *-cache:0
    description: L1 cache
    physical id: 0
    size: 128KiB
    *-cache:1
    description: L2 cache
    physical id: 1
    size: 512KiB
    *-pci
    description: Host bridge
    product: VT8378 [KM400/A] Chipset Host Bridge
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 100
    bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    configuration: driver=agpgart-via latency=8 module=via_agp
    *-pci
    description: PCI bridge
    product: VT8237 PCI Bridge
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 1
    bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list
    *-display UNCLAIMED
    description: VGA compatible controller
    product: VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 0
    bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
    version: 01
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list
    configuration: latency=32 mingnt=2
    *-network:0
    description: Wireless interface
    product: RaLink
    vendor: RaLink
    physical id: a
    bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
    logical name: ra0
    version: 00
    serial: c8:3a:35:cb:06:da
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
    configuration: broadcast=yes driver=RALINK WLAN driverversion=2.4.1.1 latency=32 maxlatency=4 mingnt=2 module=rt3562sta multicast=yes wireless=Ralink STA
    *-firewire
    description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
    product: IEEE 1394 Host Controller
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: b
    bus info: pci@0000:00:0b.0
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: ohci bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=32 maxlatency=32 module=ohci1394
    *-ide:0
    description: IDE interface
    product: VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: f
    bus info: pci@0000:00:0f.0
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: ide bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=sata_via latency=32 module=sata_via
    *-ide:1
    description: IDE interface
    product: VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: f.1
    bus info: pci@0000:00:0f.1
    version: 06
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: ide bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=pata_via latency=32 module=pata_via
    *-usb:0
    description: USB Controller
    product: VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 10
    bus info: pci@0000:00:10.0
    version: 81
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32 module=uhci_hcd
    *-usb:1
    description: USB Controller
    product: VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 10.1
    bus info: pci@0000:00:10.1
    version: 81
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32 module=uhci_hcd
    *-usb:2
    description: USB Controller
    product: VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 10.2
    bus info: pci@0000:00:10.2
    version: 81
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32 module=uhci_hcd
    *-usb:3
    description: USB Controller
    product: VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 10.3
    bus info: pci@0000:00:10.3
    version: 81
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: uhci bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32 module=uhci_hcd
    *-usb:4
    description: USB Controller
    product: USB 2.0
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 10.4
    bus info: pci@0000:00:10.4
    version: 86
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=32 module=ehci_hcd
    *-isa
    description: ISA bridge
    product: VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 11
    bus info: pci@0000:00:11.0
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
    configuration: latency=0
    *-multimedia
    description: Multimedia audio controller
    product: VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 11.5
    bus info: pci@0000:00:11.5
    version: 60
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: cap_list
    configuration: driver=VIA 82xx Audio latency=0 module=snd_via82xx
    *-communication UNCLAIMED
    description: Communication controller
    product: AC'97 Modem Controller
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 11.6
    bus info: pci@0000:00:11.6
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: cap_list
    configuration: latency=0
    *-network:1
    description: Ethernet interface
    product: VT6102 [Rhine-II]
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 12
    bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
    logical name: eth0
    version: 78
    serial: 00:11:d8:23:ff:f8
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical
    configuration: broadcast=yes driver=via-rhine driverversion=1.4.3 latency=32 maxlatency=8 mingnt=3 module=via_rhine multicast=yes
    *-scsi:0
    physical id: 1
    bus info: scsi@16
    logical name: scsi16
    capabilities: scsi-host
    configuration: driver=usb-storage
    *-scsi:1
    physical id: 2
    bus info: scsi@17
    logical name: scsi17
    capabilities: scsi-host
    configuration: driver=usb-storage
    *-scsi:2
    physical id: 3
    bus info: scsi@18
    logical name: scsi18
    capabilities: scsi-host
    configuration: driver=usb-storage
    *-scsi:3
    physical id: 4
    bus info: scsi@20
    logical name: scsi20
    capabilities: scsi-host
    configuration: driver=usb-storage
    *-scsi:4
    physical id: 5
    bus info: scsi@21
    logical name: scsi21
    capabilities: scsi-host
    configuration: driver=usb-storage
    *-scsi:5
    physical id: 6
    bus info: scsi@4
    logical name: scsi4
    capabilities: scsi-host
    configuration: driver=usb-storage

    #2
    Re: Should 10.04 run okay on my desktop/hardware?

    It's always worthwhile to archive older versions of an OS for exactly this reason.

    I still have two computers running Hardy and two running Karmic because of changes to the kernel in later versions.

    Also, a lot of powerful features of earlier versions have been removed in the interest of security and anti-hacking. I keep a few old versions of (K)Ubuntu around because they are very useful in getting into locked or protected OSs. I have even used a Feisty version this year to rescue some files that weren't accessible to later versions.

    OS evolution includes both advances and regressions.

    UbuntuGuide/KubuntuGuide

    Right now the killer is being surrounded by a web of deduction, forensic science,
    and the latest in technology such as two-way radios and e-mail.

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      #3
      Re: Should 10.04 run okay on my desktop/hardware?

      Here:

      cat /proc/cpuinfo: model name - AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+

      sudo lshw -C display: product: RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]

      (9600 XT)


      I'm using the Kubuntu 11.10 & 12.04. Both versions are working fine.


      Processors

      I think:
      i386 = Intel 386 and above
      i486 = Intel 486 and above
      i586 = Pentium and above
      i686 = Pentium 2 and above

      AMD Athlon XP ~ i686


      Old versions

      Old Ubuntu release download and information can be found from the http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
      Have you tried ?

      - How to Ask a Question on the Internet and Get It Answered
      - How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

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        #4
        Re: Should 10.04 run okay on my desktop/hardware?

        after installing if you find it slugish you might want to try installing the

        "kubuntu-low-fat-settings" package, it will reduce some of the background stuff and change the theme , etc.. lowering the memory useage and boot time by ~33% (thus helping on older / low memory machines)
        Mark Your Solved Issues [SOLVED]
        (top of thread: thread tools)

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          #5
          Re: Should 10.04 run okay on my desktop/hardware?

          Originally posted by elludium_q-36
          I'm assuming I might be okay with 10.04 on my box (spec's below) but await input and wonder what the future holds for my no-budget computing future.
          Hi...

          Having had experience installing versions of the different 'buntu's on older systems, I'm not sure an upgrade to 10.04 would be be beneficial for you. I think at the very least, you would see a decrease in speed and performance. While I think Ubuntu/Kubuntu would give you the best hardware support, you might want to give Lubuntu a try before making any decisions. Although it has an interface that will remind you of Windows 95, it just flies on older hardware. I installed it once on a Pentium III system with 512 MB's of memory and found it lightning quick while doing the typical tasks like web browsing and playing games. You can see my review here.

          However, my main concern is if it will support your graphics and wireless chipsets.

          To be honest, without the funds for an upgrade or new system, I think you're between a rock and a hard place hardware wise.

          Regards...
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            #6
            Re: Should 10.04 run okay on my desktop/hardware?

            On my HOME machine, I just tried a fresh install of 10.04. on an INTERNAL IDE Hard Disk Drive that I wiped/formatted and guess what, it did the SAME THING!!!

            After what seemed to be a successful install, it accepted my login/password but hiccuped during the splash screen and burped back to the same graphic login prompt...

            Since I read someplace that some BIOSes have difficulty with logical partitions, I reinstalled with primary partitions but "no joy". http://usmilitary.about.com/od/gloss...sn/g/n4322.htm

            This box had ran 8.04 fine... Well, actually it has been a bit wonky/screwy...
            I booted a couple versions of Puppy Linux and they seemed to be fine but I need KPPP for the moment /dev/ttyACM0

            I might have a Lubuntu disk lying about...

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              #7
              Re: Should 10.04 run okay on my desktop/hardware?

              Update:
              I reinstalled Kubuntu 8.04.2 on this box and it seems to be okay.

              Unfortunately I generally have no internet connection at home to download packages. Even when I can get online, it's grindingly slow, at best; like 1/4th the speed of dial-up. (Boost Mobile - iDEN - 14.4K )

              I put a "new" Hard Drive on "cable select" in the master position and CSed the old drive to the slave position. I can "dual boot" and easily copy files between the two installations, every time I mount the old drive.

              Unfortunately, it seems that APTonCD only works by using the cached packages kept in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and I learned too late to select "Leave all downloaded packages in the cache" in Synaptic Package Manager's preferences. http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/

              I did copy the /home/ directory over but am cautious about other files, as I believe that, in the past, system files were corrupted/compromised or wrong packages were inadvertently added from other versions of (K)Ubuntu (I bought the used system with Kubuntu already installed). Also I had a brown-out while some things were updating and the system had become more unstable. Funny I thought the sound card got fried but since it's fine under the new 8.04.2, apparently it was a software issue. :whew:
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownout_(electricity)

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                #8
                Unfortunately my box didn't like 10.04.3.

                I tried booting from a USB HDD and even installed 10.04.3 on an internal IDE drive. Either way, it does the login, starts the splash screen but burps you back to the login.

                Someone, in another post, suggested a user-name/password error but that seems doubtful, especially on a fresh install. I know the difference between a failed login with a typographical error and a case where the GUI accepts the login, then initiates the "splash" screen.
                Last edited by elludium_q-36; Feb 07, 2012, 02:42 PM.

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