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**ronw** · Oct 16, 2011, 10:50 AM

Re: Firefox on 11.10 logs me out/ends session.

I'm experiencing the same thing if I log out, then back in, and start either Firefox or Thunderbird, I'm immediately logged out. Once I log back in, no problems. This does not happen when logging in after a full restart, only if I logout without restarting. I don't know if Firefox and Thunderbird being non-KDE programs is the issue, but Dolphin, Konversation, Kopete, and other KDE apps do not cause this.

I've looked at some logs but don't see anything that indicates (to me) the problem.

I've been running 11.10 since beta1. I think this started after the 11.10 release, but it might just be that was the first time I logged out without restarting.

**doctordruidphd** · Oct 17, 2011, 07:48 AM

Re: Firefox on 11.10 logs me out/ends session.

That's weird. One thing comes to mind -- even though you have closed out firefox, it might still be running, and causing problems when you log back in.

Try this:

Just before you log out, open konsole and type:

ps aux | grep firefox

It should give you a line that says "grep firefox", and nothing else. If it gives you anything else, then firefox is still actually running, even though you can't see it. Try:

pkill firefox

wait a few seconds, and retry the ps command above. If that doesn't get rid of it, then there is a more serious problem with firefox, and it's almost certainly the cause of the problem.

**eldnlr** · Oct 17, 2011, 08:18 AM

Re: Firefox on 11.10 logs me out/ends session.

Hi,

I tried what you mentioned, so, it does seem that Firefox is running in the background.

ps aux | grep firefox gave me "eldnlr 5033 0.0 0.0 9244 900 pts/1 S+ 10:10 0:00 grep --color=auto firefox"

Then I did pkill firefox, waited a few seconds, typed the other command, and got the same message from above (with a different time).

We've narrowed down the problem. Is there a way to make sure that Firefox does close down completely?

Thanks for your help!

**ronw** · Oct 17, 2011, 08:32 AM

Re: Firefox on 11.10 logs me out/ends session.

The process line you saw is just your own grep. As doctordruidphd mentioned, if Firefox was running you would have seen more than one line in the output.

I've confirmed that it is not running on my end either before I log out.

**doctordruidphd** · Oct 17, 2011, 09:35 AM

Re: Firefox on 11.10 logs me out/ends session.

One thing I have noticed, and it may be related, is that if I click on pretty much ANYTHING immediately after logging in, the desktop freezes for a few seconds. I then get an error message about krunner not working, and when I clear that message, all is well. I don't get logged out, just a momentary freeze.

This happens on a fresh startup as well as a re-login. I didn't think anything of it, but it might be related to this. I'm still trying to figure it out.

**eldnlr** · Oct 21, 2011, 09:59 PM

Re: Firefox on 11.10 logs me out/ends session.

Hi,

I also checked to make sure that I ``start with an empty session,'' but that also didn't fix it. Also, today it also happened immediately after logging in and before I got to my desktop. Does that give you guys an idea of what it could be?

**doctordruidphd** · Oct 22, 2011, 07:22 AM

Re: Firefox on 11.10 logs me out/ends session.

Does this happen with other programs, or just FF?

Might try thunderbird if you have it installed. Or libreoffice, or GIMP (they are all gtk programs, might be a gtk problem).

Take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log (and maybe Xorg.0.log.old) as there may be an error message there,

Edit: try moving ~/.mozilla out of the way as an experiment, there may be a script or extenstion in FF that's actually causing the problem.

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