How to access a school printer[solved]/condensing three partitions to one

[Linkmaster]

Re: How to access a school printer

I didn't think that uname would help

Here is lsb_release:

williamsj2@R8RZW40:~> lsb_release
LSB Version:	core-2.0-noarch:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-noarch:core-2.0-ia32:core-3.2-ia32:core-
4.0-ia32:desktop-4.0-ia32:desktop-4.0-noarch:graphics-2.0-ia32:graphics-2.0-noarch:graphics-
3.2-ia32:graphics-3.2-noarch:graphics-4.0-ia32:graphics-4.0-noarch

EDIT: This code is all one line, but I put 'enters' in it to make reading more friendly

And here is ifconfig:
...it produced an error message :P

williamsj2@R8RZW40:~> ifconfig
bash: ifconfig: command not found

And the "school issued Linux" is the Linux that they install on our computers. Everybody hates it. So everybody puts Windows on it, with the Novell Client and stuff. But I don't want windows on my computer. I want Kubuntu, cause its more awesome

Its a private high school, its called Hargrave. Theres only two people in the IT Department, though they have the help of Novell behind them..

[oshunluvr]

Re: How to access a school printer

likely ifconfig is there, just not in your path. Try /bin/ifconfig or /sbin/ifconfig

[GreyGeek]

Re: How to access a school printer

IF they have the help of Novell behind them are they running openSUSE or SUSE Enterprise Linux Server? Either way, it's probably set up so that it can never become a Master Browser, thus easily replaced by a Windows server.

I am surprised that ifconfig isn't in /sbin (system binaries), which is (should be) in $PATH.

$ echo $PATH
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games

You can use "whereis" or "locate" to find a file.

$ whereis ifconfig
ifconfig: /sbin/ifconfig /usr/share/man/man8/ifconfig.8.gz

$ locate ifconfig
/home/jerry/sage-4.6-linux-64bit-ubuntu_10.04.1_lts-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/Sphinx-0.6.3-py2.6.egg/sphinx/ext/ifconfig.py
/sbin/ifconfig
/usr/share/man/de/man8/ifconfig.8.gz
/usr/share/man/fr/man8/ifconfig.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/ifconfig.8.gz
/usr/share/man/pt_BR/man8/ifconfig.8.gz

Not knowing the distribution & its version, or the network hierarchy, makes it more difficult to help.

[Linkmaster]

Re: How to access a school printer

/sbin/ifconfig did the trick, here it is:

williamsj2@R8RZW40:~> /sbin/ifconfig
eth1   Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:23:8B:D6:2D:4F 
     UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
     RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
     TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
     collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
     RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
     Interrupt:16 

eth3   Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:26:82:0F:10:02 
     inet addr:172.16.4.143 Bcast:172.16.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0
     inet6 addr: fe80::226:82ff:fe0f:1002/64 Scope:Link
     UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
     RX packets:1177373 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:2625785
     TX packets:68280 errors:12 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
     collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
     RX bytes:137213940 (130.8 Mb) TX bytes:13289759 (12.6 Mb)
     Interrupt:18 

lo    Link encap:Local Loopback 
     inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
     inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
     UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
     RX packets:1322 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
     TX packets:1322 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
     collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
     RX bytes:38628 (37.7 Kb) TX bytes:38628 (37.7 Kb)

@GreyGeek, I thought I mentioned that it was the openSUSE, and I'm 99% positive that it is the Enterprise version. I know that when I open up OpenOffice, it says in the upper right corner of it "SUSE Linux Enterprises". And when it boots up on the newer version of computers, the text files where replaced with a splash screen that says something along the lines "Opensuse Enterprise". I also know that it is the desktop version. Uhm, since the commands that I'm attempting aren't helping as much as I hoped, that is a problem.

Anyways, perhaps I'm an idiot here, but 'Master Browser'? And 'replaced'? How does that work out exactly? I hope my questions[I'm practically spamming the board, which I hope isn't bad]aren't too frequent/annoying. I'm just wanting to know everything about Linux[Kubuntu in particular] :-X

Here is echo $PATH

williamsj2@R8RZW40:~> echo $PATH
/home/williamsj2/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/opt/kde3
/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/mit/bin:/usr/lib/mit/sbin:/opt/novell/ncl/bin:/opt/novell/ncl/bin

[Note, this is all one line again, but I placed an 'enter' for easier reading purposes]

I don't think I need to locate the file though, since it worked in the sbin.

And is there nothing I can type in to find the network hierarchy? Such as erasing their software with Kubuntu, which is what I'm practically dying to do. But, by erasing it, I could use a kernel that makes sense to me at least, and you'd have MUCH easier time with helping me about it.

Note: The reason I have to erase everything, rather than install alongside it is because they have 4 primary partitions on the computer already. One has the home folder, one has the booting/grub on it, and the last has /etc and most of the other folders. If I knew of a possible way to effectively move them over, and then delete the corresponding 'empty' linux partition, I would. But I currently know of none.

[oshunluvr]

Re: How to access a school printer

Assuming you have enough space on one of the other partitions to free up enough space - you could use a gparted livecd to shrink, move, expand your partitions until you have enough room to more the /etc files to the / partition. Then create new extended/logical partitions

[Linkmaster]

Re: How to access a school printer

Well, I've seen the partitions through both GParted and my USB OS, and I know that one partition is 100 gigs[this is the main one] and the other two are 20 gigs apiece. I believe only 10 or so gigs have been used by both the smaller partitions. Are you saying that I can simply up and move all the folders from one partition to the other, and not cause too many/if any problems? Because if so, that would be great. I'm not sure how to use GParted to take a snapshot, because when I tried to to post on my "future partitioning help" post, it was being..wierd, to say the least.

And I'm hoping GreyGeek has something awesome, cause he seems totally brilliant concerning Linux...is he one of the people who helped create Kubuntu?

[oshunluvr]

Re: How to access a school printer

If you currently have enough free space on your / partition to hold all the /etc files, start with copying those files over. The most important thing when moving files is to preserve permissions and ownership. Since /etc is on a separate partition, there will be a /etc subdirectory on the / partition. This is your eventual target directory.

You should be able to copy everything while running on the linux install. I don't think anything in /etc will be locked. Create a new target directory like /etcnew, navigate to /etc and do tar -cf – . | (cd <TARGETDIR> && tar -xpvf -)[/b] . Then edit fstab and comment out the mount line for the /etc partition. Then boot to a live cd and rename /etc to /etcold and /etcnew to /etc and reboot.

If this has problems you can boot to a live cd, mount both partitions somewhere, navigate (cd) to the source directory (the mounted /etc partition) and then use this command: tar -cf – . | (cd <TARGETDIR> && tar -xpvf -) . Substitute the mounted location of your target directory for <TARGETDIR>. Don't forget when you mount the / partition, you will need to add /etc to the mount location to get the files into the correct directory.

Once you've copied all the files over, boot to the linux install to verify it works. Once you're satisfied you may remove the /etc partition. Now on to the harder part:

I have had success with gparted live doing this; start with partition 1 and resize it, then resize and move partition 2 all the way to the "left", and finally partition 3. Then create a new extended partition with the free space and then you logical partitions within it.

[Linkmaster]

Re: How to access a school printer

Since I use the Kubuntu 10.10 LiveCD as my main 'live cd modify files and GRUB and anything else that needs to be modified' file, can I simply open up dolphin, have the computer mount them, then navigate my way through the partitions through /media of the LiveCD? Just wanting to make sure that works, or if I have to mount them to a specific place.

Do you think I should boot up a LiveCD real fast, and take some pictures of the paritions? So that you can see what is in them and stuff. Because a lot of it is seeming kind of sketch to me, and I don't want to crash my openSUSE. I hate it, but I like having access to the printers and 'J' drive[server drive].

[GreyGeek]

Re: How to access a school printer

"Brilliant"?

I'm a five watt bulb. There are a LOT of 100 watt bulbs on this forum.

You can move any directories YOU create to any partition you can mount, BUT, be very careful moving directory you DIDN'T create. Doing that can destroy your system.

I noticed that your active nic card is labeled "eth3" (172.16.4.143). Eth1 is not used and eth2 is missing. The loopback is normal. I don't remember how SUSE labels nics but the usually sequence is eth0, eth1, eth2 .... What does the output of
route
show?

[Linkmaster]

Re: How to access a school printer

The IP listed was actually one of my teachers :-X but if I used the IP issued to me, it'd give the same output, just .22.175 as the last numbers. But 'route' just threw me a "command not found" error again

And I didn't create any of the directories on the computer partitions, other then subdirectories such as 'Documents' and 'Pictures'. Everything else was put on there by IT. And yeah, when the school OS is on it, it changes it from wlan0 to eth1. I haven't figured out why it does that exactly..

And well, your a 100 'bulb' compared to my dim .02 watts. Though, a 100 'bulb' would be nice to see here, if they are going to give me some of their time, haha

[GreyGeek]

Re: How to access a school printer

Do
whereis route
to find the location of route. It should give /sbin/route and /sbin SHOULD be in your $PATH. That it is not suggests that SUSE is messed up. All of the system directories should be in the PATH, which in ALL the distros I've used, including SuSE but not SUSE. Here is mypath statement:

$ echo $PATH
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games

[Linkmaster]

Re: How to access a school printer

Well, here is the code for my two commands:

williamsj2@R8RZW40:~> whereis route
route: /sbin/route /usr/share/man/man8/route.8.gz
williamsj2@R8RZW40:~> echo $PATH
/home/williamsj2/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/opt/kde3
/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/mit/bin:/usr/lib/mit/sbin:/opt/novell/ncl/bin:/opt/novell/ncl/bin

Once again, I put an enter in there for reading purposes.

Not sure if that helps, I navigated to /sbin and it still gave me a bad command error.

[vinnywright]

Re: How to access a school printer

they(your IT people) have system directories removed from your path.

so to use route you knead to include the full path to it .... /sbin/route ......like you did for ifconfig.
it will not execute for you even from in /sbin if you dont.

thay do this to keep you from system programs and hinder your ability to Chang things to much
I think

VINNY

[Linkmaster]

Re: How to access a school printer

thay do this to keep you from system programs and hinder your ability to Chang things to much

Yeah, I figured that was the case...but for everything done, there is always two ways to get around it. Thats my philosophy for 99% of my life, haha

[Detonate]

Re: How to access a school printer

they(your IT people) have system directories removed from your path.

so to use route you knead to include the full path to it .... /sbin/route ......like you did for ifconfig.
it will not execute for you even from in /sbin if you dont.

thay do this to keep you from system programs and hinder your ability to Chang things to much
I think

VINNY

And I think that is the root of all of his difficulties in getting this working. We don't know what restrictions they have placed on his system.