Problems with wine

[Roostaamir]

Hi again
I am getting crazy with this wine thing!
previously I had a 6 gig root partition and when I'd try to install a 7 gig windows app,it said that I only have 6 gig of space.
Now that I reinstalled Kubuntu with a 15 gig partiotion,when I try to install the same app,it will say that i have only 3 gig of space (which is my home partition).What the hell is happening in my computer?
another problem I have is this:

It can't open the virtual C:\ drive

Please.someone help.

[sithlord48]

Re: Problems with wine

your wine drive_c is located in ~/.wine/drive_c (~/ means home folder)

[doctordruidphd]

Re: Problems with wine

your wine drive_c is located in ~/.wine/drive_c (~/ means home folder)

To amplify on this just a bit:

Wine uses the .wine subdirectory in your home folder to install everything, unless you have told it to do something else. So if you install something in wine to C:, it is actually in ~/.wine/drive_c

There are a couple of ways around the problem, though I have to say that giving yourself only 15gb for the system plus a 7 gb application is probably pushing it.

One thing you could do is use winecfg to set up a d: drive somewhere on your drive, though you will need to make sure you have full read/write permissions. The other alternative is to move your .wine directory to another partition, and either set up a symbolic link from ~/.wine to the new directory, OR you can invoke wine with the WINEPREFIX option to tell it to find its .wine directory somewhere else.

Here is what I do on my system:
Because I have several games, and as we all know, installing one game on windows often breaks everything else, I have separate .wine directories for each game. My games are all on a separate partition, /media/games. All of my .wine directories are also on /media/games, with symbolic links from ~ to the .wine directories on /media/games.

So, for example, I start The Witcher with the following command:
env WINEPREFIX="/home/greenman/.wine-witcher" wine "D:\The Witcher Enhanced Edition\System\witcher.exe"

where /home/greenman/.wine-witcher is actually a symbolic link to /media/games/.wine-witcher, and drive D: is set up as /media/games.

This way, I don't blow out my system and home partitions with wine stuff.

[Roostaamir]

Re: Problems with wine

The problem is i can't find a /.wine directory in my home partition
Even wine itself can't find the C drive(look at the screenshot).
I want to know what's the problem?
I want to why the wine said that i only have 6gig of space,when I had a 16gig home partition (this error made me reinstall kubuntu.because i thought wine apps will be installed in root partition.I reinstalled kubuntu with 3 gig home.but this time it is telling me that i have only 3 gig of space)

The app I want to install is a system one.wich means it should be installed on C.so I can't use a D drive

Someone pkease tell me what's going on.!!!!!

[doctordruidphd]

Re: Problems with wine

.wine is not in / , it is in ~

Please post the output of:

cd ~
ls -ald .w*

and

cd /
find -name .wine

[Roostaamir]

Re: Problems with wine

Here are the results:

(my username is amir)

first one:
drwxr-xr-x 4 amir amir 4096 2011-02-25 14:53 .wine

second one: (!!!!!!!!)


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[doctordruidphd]

Re: Problems with wine

/home/amir/.wine

That's where your .wine directory is, and
/home/amir/.wine/drive_c
is where your C: drive is.

Since you installed home as a separate partition with only 3 gb, and since C: is located in the home partition, then there is a maximum of 3gb available, minus what it takes to install wine's various files, things that install along with the application (.net, mono, dx3, whatever else), plus kde files, application files, etc from linux itself.

You can find out exactly how much space you have in your home partition with:
df /home
and how much space you have used with
du -sh /home

So given the way you have it set up, you probably have less than 2 gb space left.

You could possibly move your home directory back to the system partition, change /etc/fstab so that the system recognizes the new location for /home, and use gparted to remove the old home partition and grow your system to 15gb. But the sad fact is that you probably won't be able to install a 7gb windows application in wine with the space you have allocated, no matter what you do, because the installation process for windows applications often takes at least twice, maybe more, space than the final installation occupies, due to files being copied, decompressed, and moved around by the windows installer. And then there's the data it will store.

If at all possible, I would recommend resintalling (Or copying your system with rsync) to a new partition of at least 25 gb. Don't install a separate /home partition, or if you do, give it at least 20gb of space. 7gb is a pretty big application, and it needs plenty of space to setup and run. If your disk is short of space, you could shrink the partition down after the installation with gparted.

[Roostaamir]

Re: Problems with wine

Thanks for your help
I will try reinstalling kubuntu with no home partition

But if i do it,where will be the home drive.I mean where will be the desktop,music,documents etc folders?
Another thing that bothers me is i can't see a .wine folder in home(I don't know if I SHOULD see it or not).And still wine itself can't open the C drive.it says the C folder does not exist.
I installed wine via Wine HQ.so There shouldn't be something wrong with the package.

Do you know what's wrong?

[doctordruidphd]

Re: Problems with wine

Files that start with a dot, like .wine , are hidden files -- you don't normally see them with the ls command, unless you add the -a suffix. So ls -a will show all the files in your directory, including the hidden files, like .wine. Also, if you use dolphin, the hidden files won't show up unless you tell dolphin to show them with the View > Show Hidden Files menu option.

If you install without a separate home partition, your home direectory will be located in /home/username . That way, you will be able to use all of the space you have set up for your system.

I don't know about wineHQ.so, I would recommend installing wine through the ubuntu repositories.

sudo apt-get install wine

It might not be the latest development version, however. If you want the cutting edge version (which sometimes does not work properly) then there is a wine ppa, which you can read about, along with instructions for installing it, here:

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa

[oshunluvr]

Re: Problems with wine

You really need to let go of your windows ideas. Linux doesn't think in terms of "drives" so /home will be where it was before - /home. What constitutes /home is a different matter. It could be a partition, a drive, a network device, a usb thumb drive...

[Roostaamir]

Re: Problems with wine

Thank u all guys.specially doctordruidphd
will try reinstalling kubuntu with no separate home partition

thanks again fellows

[nadrach]

Re: Problems with wine

Your problem with the C: drive is a configuration glitch between Kubuntu and Wine, which the folks at wineHQ say is in Kubuntu, but as yet my o/s query about this has never been answered.

The C: drive is located at: /home/<user>/.wine/drive_c

there is also a symbolic link to this at: /home/<user>/.wine/dosdevices/c:

clicking on the "Browse Drive C:" icon installed by wine on KDE4 in Kubuntu will return the error message that:

file:///home/<user>/Documents/.wine/dosdevices/c:

does not exist. It does not take a lot of deduction to notice the extra "/Documents" in the directory path specified for the icon, which I believe comes from a misconstructed "home directory" variable for wine provided by KDE4 (this situation did not occur in KDE3 - and I first encountered the problem with Kubuntu 9.04 when KDE4 was adopted).

My solution is to provide a symbolic link to "../.wine" in the "/home/<user>/Documents" directory after installing wine, which provides a path for the icon to work.

Note: This situation does not occur if you use "winetricks" to browse the "C:" drive in each additional wineprefix; only with the desktop icon, which only allows browsing the "C:" drive in the default wineprefix.

[nadrach]

Re: Problems with wine

The wine drive C: situation is an unresolved bug associated with the behaviour of the KDE Application launcher and the command specified for the "Browse Drive C:" icon installed by Wine. See:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ne/+bug/223989

there are many threads with queries ever since KDE4 was adopted in 9.04, try either of the following for a possible fix:

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3114133.0

or

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1329802