[SOLVED]xorg.conf for Nvidia Geforce4 mx 440 se Kubuntu9.10 (renamed)

[ukchucktown]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

I'm kind of late to the game, not on the forums much lately, busy with a big project at work. I'm pretty sure your problem is X can't detect your monitor (I think you said it was a LCD TV) correctly. I would not bother with any of the automated tools from nvidia, they probably won't work. I also suggest you use the latest nvidia driver that supports your card.

I can't tell you how many times I've had to resort to manually editing the xorg.conf file. My first suggestion is running a handy little command in /usr/sbin named ddcprobe. Run it from a terminal and post the output here. Also post the exact model of your TV. It's possible ddcprobe won't give us the information we need. In that case your only option is the manual that came with your TV.

If your LCD TV works under Windows I'm confident we can't get it working under Kubuntu if we know your LCD TV's specs. We need to know the horizontal sync ranges and the vertical refresh rate ranges. Once we have those it should not be difficult to create a mode line for the resolution you want.


Cheers, UK

[MoonRise]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

I'm kind of late to the game, not on the forums much lately, busy with a big project at work. I'm pretty sure your problem is X can't detect your monitor (I think you said it was a LCD TV) correctly. I would not bother with any of the automated tools from nvidia, they probably won't work. I also suggest you use the latest nvidia driver that supports your card.

I can't tell you how many times I've had to resort to manually editing the xorg.conf file. My first suggestion is running a handy little command in /usr/sbin named ddcprobe. Run it from a terminal and post the output here. Also post the exact model of your TV. It's possible ddcprobe won't give us the information we need. In that case your only option is the manual that came with your TV.

If your LCD TV works under Windows I'm confident we can't get it working under Kubuntu if we know your LCD TV's specs. We need to know the horizontal sync ranges and the vertical refresh rate ranges. Once we have those it should not be difficult to create a mode line for the resolution you want.


Cheers, UK

Hopefully you mean "can" get it working?

[TuxLove]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

I'm with ukchucktown on this, phonic.

Model displayed is CRT-0 (CRT-0 on GPU-0).
The other is the TV-0 (TV-0 on GPU-0).

That struck me as odd. CRT-0 and TV-0 are default values. I'd have expected some sort of model information in there. What's more, they suggest you have two devices connected.

I see from you spec sheet that your using a Hisense LCD TV. How are you connecting to it? Standard VGA lead or something else? And is there a particular mode on the TV you can set (or change) when connecting a PC? I'm wondering if the problem isn't that "TV-0" is forcing the default setting on the card somehow.

And what did you get from a ddcprobe?

[ukchucktown]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

Typo is my middle name. 8)

Yeah, I think we can get it working. We just need a little more info on that monitor. I'd stop chasing video card issues, that's not the problem here.

[MoonRise]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

I agree. Had a time with an older laptop. Couldn't find the specs for the display either. I used Puppy Linux to get theoretical specs for HorSync and VertSync. It couldn't determine automatically the display specs either but it, as I said, displayed what it determined could be possible settings. I set my Xorg.conf to fit those and it worked!

[phonnic_p]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

Thanks sooo much for replying new posters, ukchucktown, MoonRise & TuxLove.
I have attached the output for ddcprobe.

There was a post that suggested I try to manually set the Hor & Ver settings frequency's in the config file but I still need to call the manufacture to get them as it is not in the manual.

I have been waiting for Hisense Melbourne Tech support office to call back, but they have not as yet.
I did find this on there web page as the info requested was not in my manual:
Is the below text in bold what you need?

Panel Performance
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Brightness (cd/m.sq) 500
Native Contrast Ratio 1500:1
Panel Resolution 1366 x 768
Response Time (ms) 6.5
Viewing Angle 160(H)/150(V)

PS thanks in advance for future help, I'm beginning to feel a whole lot better

[phonnic_p]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

I see from you spec sheet that your using a Hisense LCD TV. How are you connecting to it? Standard VGA lead or something else? And is there a particular mode on the TV you can set (or change) when connecting a PC? I'm wondering if the problem isn't that "TV-0" is forcing the default setting on the card somehow.

And what did you get from a ddcprobe?

Standard VGA lead is what is connecting to my TV/Monitor via the CRT-0.
I did try once to use the svideo via TV-0 but it was outputting at an 4:3 ratio (Bluggh) so I gave up on that path pretty quickly.
The only configurability the TV gives for PC mode is to select PC mode and it will accept VGA (640×480 60Hz), SVGA(800×600 60Hz), XGA (1024×768 60Hz), SXGA (1280×1024 60Hz). It will accept 1366 x 768 as well but that is not in the manual I found that out on xp.
Ps See previous post attachment for ddcprobe outputs.

[ukchucktown]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

Unfortunately ddcprobe did not output the information we need. I had a feeling it might not since you are having problems. Do you have the manual that came with the TV? If so, it might be hidden in there somewhere; otherwise, your move to call the manufacturer is a good one. They should know it.

I'd prefer to have the real values for your LCD versus making an educated guess but they aren't absolutely necessary. I think we can get it working without the horizontal and vertical sync ranges. It is an LCD so the default refresh rate is 60. You can generate a mode line using the cvt command and give it a go. If you want 1024x768, from a terminal run the following:

cvt 1024 768 60

If you want 1280x1024 than use those numbers with 60 to get the mode line for that resolution. You can add mode lines for all the resolutions to your xorg.conf file then set the default resolution in your xorg.conf file to the one you want. What I suggest is letting nvidia-settings generate a default xorg.conf file then customize it by adding the mode lines for the resolutions you desire. Output of cvt should look similar to below.

Modeline "1024x768_60.00" 63.50 1024 1072 1176 1328 768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync

I'm signing off for tonight but I'll check back this weekend if you run into problems with the xorg.conf file. It's not that hard to figure out once you understand its format.

[phonnic_p]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

cvt 1024 768 60

If you want 1280x1024 than use those numbers with 60 to get the mode line for that resolution. You can add mode lines for all the resolutions to your xorg.conf file then set the default resolution in your xorg.conf file to the one you want. What I suggest is letting nvidia-settings generate a default xorg.conf file then customize it by adding the mode lines for the resolutions you desire. Output of cvt should look similar to below.

Modeline "1024x768_60.00" 63.50 1024 1072 1176 1328 768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync

Here is the out put of the above code

phonic-p@Lightwave:~$ cvt 1024 768 60
# 1024x768 59.92 Hz (CVT 0.79M3) hsync: 47.82 kHz; pclk: 63.50 MHz
Modeline "1024x768_60.00"  63.50 1024 1072 1176 1328 768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync
phonic-p@Lightwave:~$

The attached xorg.conf results in my LCD flashing "Invalid Format"
Where should I place the modeline?

[ukchucktown]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

The attached file isn't going to do it, I would expect the result you got. You add mode lines to the Monitor section. Then you select the resolution in the Screen section. Replace the generated file with what I pasted. Let's see if it works. If so, you can add more mode lines to your Monitor section for the remaining resolutions supported by your LCD and pick the one you want in your Screen section. Good luck, hope it works for you.

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder63) Sun Nov 8 18:24:28 PST 2009

Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier   "Layout0"
  Screen   0 "Screen0"
  InputDevice  "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
  InputDevice  "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
  # generated from default
  Identifier   "Mouse0"
  Driver     "mouse"
  Option     "Protocol" "auto"
  Option     "Device" "/dev/psaux"
  Option     "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
  Option     "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
  # generated from default
  Identifier   "Keyboard0"
  Driver     "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
  Identifier   "Monitor0"
  VendorName   "Hisense"
  ModelName   "Unknown"
  HorizSync    30.0 - 110.0
  VertRefresh   50.0 - 150.0
  Modeline    "1024x768_60.00"  63.50 1024 1072 1176 1328 768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync
  Option     "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier   "Device0"
  Driver     "nvidia"
  VendorName   "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier   "Screen0"
  Device     "Device0"
  Monitor    "Monitor0"
  DefaultDepth  24
  SubSection   "Display"
    Depth    24
    Modes   "1024x768_60.00"
  EndSubSection
EndSection

[phonnic_p]

Re: No xorg.conf in Kubuntu9.10 need better Video Driver for geforce4 mx 440 se

SUCCESS 8)

THANKYOU so much ukchucktown
I followed your above advice and placed it in the attached xorg.conf file.
I might just add a few more resolutions via you're method.

[phonnic_p]

Re: [SOLVED]xorg.conf for Nvidia Geforce4 mx 440 se Kubuntu9.10 (renamed)

I seem to have control of Nvidia Xserver Settings GUI but it seems to be stuck on 1240 768 every other resolution seems to be "invalid format" from my monitor. Is this because I still need the exact H & V sync/refresh rates from the manufacturer?
Also I seem to be able to use the KrandRtray to get 1024 768 & 800 600 though.

See attached xorg.conf

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder63) Sun Nov 8 18:24:28 PST 2009

Section "Monitor"
  Identifier   "Monitor0"
  VendorName   "Unknown"
  ModelName   "Unknown"
  HorizSync    30.0 - 110.0
  VertRefresh   50.0 - 150.0
  Modeline    "1366x768_60.00"  85.25 1368 1440 1576 1784 768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync
  Modeline    "1360x768_60.00"  84.75 1360 1432 1568 1776 768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync
  Modeline    "1240x768_60.00"  77.50 1240 1304 1432 1624 768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync
  Modeline    "1024x768_60.00" 63.50 1024 1072 1176 1328 768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync
  Modeline    "960x720_60.00"  55.75 960 1008 1104 1248 720 723 727 748 -hsync +vsync
  Modeline    "800x600_60.00"  38.25 800 832 912 1024 600 603 607 624 -hsync +vsync
  Option     "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier   "Device0"
  Driver     "nvidia"
  VendorName   "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier   "Screen0"
  Device     "Device0"
  Monitor    "Monitor0"
  DefaultDepth  24
  SubSection   "Display"
    Depth    24
    Modes   "1366x768_60.00" "1360x768_60.00" "1240x768_60.00" "1024x768_60.00" "960x760_60" "800x600_60.00"
  EndSubSection
EndSection

[ukchucktown]

Re: [SOLVED]xorg.conf for Nvidia Geforce4 mx 440 se Kubuntu9.10 (renamed)

I noticed some typos between your mode lines in the Monitor section and your mode line in your Screen section. Some of entries are non standard resolutions. Try the following:

800x600_60
1024x768_60
1280x1024_60

I don't think it has much to do with your horizontal sync range. Keep the refresh rate 60. Consult the manual for other resolutions supported by your monitor. I can't help you there. I have no experience with your LCD TV. You can't just pick anything, some resolutions will not be supported.

UK

[sithlord48]

Re: [SOLVED]xorg.conf for Nvidia Geforce4 mx 440 se Kubuntu9.10 (renamed)

1366*768 and 1240*768 jump out as incorrect...

[phonnic_p]

Re: [SOLVED]xorg.conf for Nvidia Geforce4 mx 440 se Kubuntu9.10 (renamed)

I noticed some typos between your mode lines in the Monitor section and your mode line in your Screen section. Some of entries are non standard resolutions. Try the following:

800x600_60
1024x768_60
1280x1024_60

I don't think it has much to do with your horizontal sync range. Keep the refresh rate 60. Consult the manual for other resolutions supported by your monitor. I can't help you there. I have no experience with your LCD TV. You can't just pick anything, some resolutions will not be supported.

UK

OK as you can see below I've removed all the previous modelines and kept the ones I'm comfortable using. Also when you say keep the refresh rate @ 60, is the set of numbers in the Modeline after "1024x768_60" part of the refresh rate?
When I log in with the new (and old) xorg.conf my TV flashes with its OSD the Resolution as 1240x768 75Hz. (I'm not too fussed with this resolution - though it is a little small)

The Nvidia x server settings appears to have a multitude of choices for resolutions but NONE are selectable without the Monitor saying "Invalid Format" even 1024x768 & 800x600, but when I use KrandRtray to set resolutions, 1024X768 & 800x600 ARE selectable.

PS I tried this with Gnome but the gnome version of KrandRtray refuses to get involved

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder63) Sun Nov 8 18:24:28 PST 2009

Section "Monitor"
  Identifier   "Monitor0"
  VendorName   "Unknown"
  ModelName   "Unknown"
  HorizSync    30.0 - 110.0
  VertRefresh   50.0 - 150.0
  Modeline    "1024x768_60.00" 63.50 1024 1072 1176 1328 768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync
  Modeline    "800x600_60.00"  38.25 800 832 912 1024 600 603 607 624 -hsync +vsync
  Option     "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier   "Device0"
  Driver     "nvidia"
  VendorName   "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier   "Screen0"
  Device     "Device0"
  Monitor    "Monitor0"
  DefaultDepth  24
  SubSection   "Display"
    Depth    24
    Modes   "1024x768_60.00" "800x600_60.00"
  EndSubSection
EndSection