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**sithlord48** · Jun 01, 2009, 12:00 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

for an ntfs drive the ezest way (for me) was to just add a script to my ~/.kde/Autostart/ the script was just a mount command for the (in my case) partition i wanted to mount. just be sure to test your mount command out before making the script

**doctordruidphd** · Jun 01, 2009, 12:41 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

Here's how I have it working:

first, get the UUID of the drive:

Code:

sudo blkid

The UUID for an ntfs drive looks a little different than an ext3; mine looks like this:

Code:

/dev/sdb3: UUID="4010CBBD10CBB864" TYPE="ntfs"

Now I have the following entry in my /etc/fstab file:

Code:

#/dev/sdb3
UUID=4010CBBD10CBB864              /media/VISTA  ntfs  user,rw,umask=000 0  0

Mounts fine on bootup. Note that I never write to it -- writing probably works, but I still don't trust it. Instead I have a small vfat partition that I use for transferring data between windows and linux.

Also be sure that when you edit /etc/fstab you are doing so through sudo (if using vim) or kdesudo (if using a gui editor).

**wewek** · Jun 01, 2009, 12:43 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

I wonder to know if Kubuntu has any GUI for mount settings? If I remember it right, KDE3 had kcontrol where I could (very easy) set auto-mounting (which disk, where to mount e.g) But I can't find it in KDE4.
I still don't get it, why Ubuntu mounts all my external hard disks automatically after boot and Kubuntu doesn't.
I don't want to play with fstab or some startup script.
Thanks for reply.

**doctordruidphd** · Jun 01, 2009, 12:47 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

I wonder to know if Kubuntu has any GUI for mount settings?

sudo apt-get install mountmanager

**GilGib** · Jun 01, 2009, 02:03 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

Here is How I did it. first I used dolphin to mount it by clicking on drive. then in terminal type in mount.
My ntfs partition-Drive is labeled Win-Shared mounted on /dev/sda4. Then using dolphin I right click on drive and selected unmount.. then sudo mkdir /media/Win-Shared ( case sensitive). Then sudo
chmod 666 /media/Win-Shared (666=read write all).
Added this to my /etc/fstab "/dev/sda4 /media/Win-Shared ntfs-3g,rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksiz=4096" without Quotes.
Then sudo mount -a should mount the drive from the fstab file

**wewek** · Jun 01, 2009, 02:35 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

Originally posted by doctordruidphd

I wonder to know if Kubuntu has any GUI for mount settings?

sudo apt-get install mountmanager

$ sudo mountmanager
3 records in /etc/fstab were detected.
[G] DBus interface was created
[G] All devices were recieved
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sda4"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sda3"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sda2"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sda1"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sr0"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sdb4"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sdc1"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sdb3"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sdb2"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sdb1"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sda"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sdc"
[I] Storage device was detected: "/dev/sdb"
[G] Parsing of "/usr/share/mountmanager/options/common.xml" was successful
[G] Parsing of "/usr/share/mountmanager/options/reiserfs.xml" was successful
[G] Parsing of "/usr/share/mountmanager/options/ext3.xml" was successful
[G] Parsing of "/usr/share/mountmanager/options/vfat.xml" was successful
[G] Parsing of "/usr/share/mountmanager/options/iso9660.xml" was successful
[G] Parsing of "/usr/share/mountmanager/options/udf.xml" was successful
[G] Parsing of "/usr/share/mountmanager/options/ntfs-3g.xml" was successful
Segmentation fault
$

**doctordruidphd** · Jun 01, 2009, 02:47 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

mountmanager is segfaulting on ntfs-3g.
You don't need ntfs-3g to read ntfs partitions with current kernels.
So, you can remove ntfs-3g if you want to read windows-created partitions.

HOWEVER--

If you have created any ntfs partitions with ntfs-3g, you will not be able to read them once you remove ntfs-3g. The reason appears to be that there are differences between windows' and ntfs-3g's versions of ntfs. So, if you have created a partition with ntfs-3g, the only solution I can think of is to copy everything on that partition somewhere else, delete the partition, remove ntfs-3g, then recreate the ntfs partition without ntfs-3g, and copy everything back.

mountmanager has an option for using ntfs-3g, but the only way I ever got it to work was to remove ntfs-3g. If there is a way for native ntfs and ntfs-3g to co-exist, I don't know what it is.

**wewek** · Jun 01, 2009, 03:24 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

Originally posted by doctordruidphd

mountmanager is segfaulting on ntfs-3g.
You don't need ntfs-3g to read ntfs partitions with current kernels.
So, you can remove ntfs-3g if you want to read windows-created partitions.

HOWEVER--

If you have created any ntfs partitions with ntfs-3g, you will not be able to read them once you remove ntfs-3g. The reason appears to be that there are differences between windows' and ntfs-3g's versions of ntfs. So, if you have created a partition with ntfs-3g, the only solution I can think of is to copy everything on that partition somewhere else, delete the partition, remove ntfs-3g, then recreate the ntfs partition without ntfs-3g, and copy everything back.

mountmanager has an option for using ntfs-3g, but the only way I ever got it to work was to remove ntfs-3g. If there is a way for native ntfs and ntfs-3g to co-exist, I don't know what it is.

after removing the ntfs-3g I was able to lunch the mountmanager.
But this is still just GUI fstab editor. And I think it works really stupid. I set automoint for one disk (where is fat32) and it changed my fstab to:

$ cat /etc/fstab
UUID=6e506483-56da-4bc8-a16b-2ca770d72f7e / ext4 defaults 0 1
/dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 noauto 0 0

My previous fstab looked like this:
# / was on /dev/sda4 during installation
UUID=6e506483-56da-4bc8-a16b-2ca770d72f7e / ext4 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# cdrom - added by me (but didn't help)
/dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0

and it didn't create any backup file...

My question is:
why can Ubuntu mount all my external disks after startup and Kubuntu not?
(and Ubuntu doesn't change anything in /etc/fstab)

Thanks for reply.

**muzicman0** · Jun 01, 2009, 03:44 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

copied from a post to my question on the same thing from snowhog (might have to re-install ntfs-3g):

Originally posted by Snowhog

Open a console. Navigate to the /media directory and then type:

Code:

sudo mkdir NTFS

This is necessary, as we are creating a mount point for the entry we are going to add to your fstab file. While in the console, navigate to /etc and then edit (as root) the fstab file and add the following:

/dev/sdb1 /media/NTFS ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0

After the fstab file has been modified, you will need to reboot, or from a console, type:

Code:

sudo mount -a

I have done this many times, with no problems!

mm0

**wewek** · Jun 01, 2009, 04:11 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

thanx for reply mm0
but this is not what I'm asking for.
I don't have any problems with mounting my disks (partition: ext3, reiserfs, fat and ntfs) but my point is: Why Ubuntu mount all partitions after startup automatically and Kubuntu not?
In Kubuntu I have to open Dolphin and mount them manually.
Does Ubuntu run any "mounting scripts" during the startup?

**muzicman0** · Jun 01, 2009, 04:14 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

I don't know why...but what I typed above will make it mount automatically. I'm sure there are many ways to do the same thing, but this one is simple (for me), and works. It will not ask for a password, and auto mounts during boot. I have my wallpaper, and various other things on my ntfs drive, so I needed it to mount during boot...this is my solution.

mm0

**doctordruidphd** · Jun 01, 2009, 04:15 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

My question is:
why can Ubuntu mount all my external disks after startup and Kubuntu not?
(and Ubuntu doesn't change anything in /etc/fstab)

Are both systems the same version (meaning "jaunty", or whatever)?

If so, please post the fstab files from both systems. The process for mounting file sytems during bootup is, as far as I know, the same no matter what desktop you are using.

**wewek** · Jun 01, 2009, 04:23 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

Originally posted by doctordruidphd

My question is:
why can Ubuntu mount all my external disks after startup and Kubuntu not?
(and Ubuntu doesn't change anything in /etc/fstab)

Are both systems the same version (meaning "jaunty", or whatever)?

If so, please post the fstab files from both systems. The process for mounting file sytems during bootup is, as far as I know, the same no matter what desktop you are using.

No, other machine is Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit
in fstab is just 2 entries (one about partition where the system is installed and second about cdrom)
when I plug the external hard disks when system is booting, I can see all partitions mounted in /media/
I guess this is some new features of KDE4
(maybe - device notifier wiged)

**doctordruidphd** · Jun 01, 2009, 04:36 PM

Re: Auto mount NTFS drive in Kubuntu 9.04

OK, sounds like they are mounting, just not displaying. I have never tried plugging things in while booting. Since the device notifier is part of kde, and starting kdm is pretty close to the end of the bootup process, my guess is that they are actually mounted before the device notifier activates, so it "assumes" the external devices are part of the system and doesn't show them.

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