frustrated new user to ubuntu

[Detonate]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

OK, let us revice the command

Enter:

sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/Seagate 200GB uid=1000,gid=1000,locale=en_US.UTF-8,force

in the terminal.

Post the results.

[karlyguy]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

that gets almost the same result,

1000,gid=1000,locale=en_US.UTF-8,force
Usage: mount -V : print version
mount -h : print this help
mount : list mounted filesystems
mount -l : idem, including volume labels
So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
The command is `mount [-t fstype] something somewhere'.
Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
mount -a [-t|-O] ... : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
mount device : mount device at the known place
mount directory : mount known device here
mount -t type dev dir : ordinary mount command
Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts
a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.
One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:
mount --bind olddir newdir
or move a subtree:
mount --move olddir newdir
One can change the type of mount containing the directory dir:
mount --make-shared dir
mount --make-slave dir
mount --make-private dir
mount --make-unbindable dir
One can change the type of all the mounts in a mount subtree
containing the directory dir:
mount --make-rshared dir
mount --make-rslave dir
mount --make-rprivate dir
mount --make-runbindable dir
A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
or by label, using -L label or by uuid, using -U uuid .
Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd].
For many more details, say man 8 mount .

[Detonate]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

I think that the name of the directory we are trying to mount to may be the problem.

In the terminal again:

sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb1

then we will try the mount command again, but with the new directory we just created, and edited for simplicity.

sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 force

Are we havung fun yet?

I may not answer you tonight. Past my bedtime.

[karlyguy]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

loads of fun
everyone on this thread has been really helpful

understandable past your bedtime, and im back at work days until xmas eve,

the 1st code seems to have worked directory exists now,
the 2nd code got same result, for the usage of 'mount' command,
if only that GUI option had worked

[Detonate]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

Are you sure you installed ntfs-3g? Run:

sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g

again.

[karlyguy]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

result =
pixie@pixie-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[sudo] password for pixie:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
ntfs-3g is already the newest version.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic linux-headers-2.6.24-19
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

[Detonate]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

We need input from someone else here. I can't understand why the mount command is not working.

[toad]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

Okay, I'll have a shot... Can you post the output of

ls -la /mnt

And while we're at it, the output of:

cat /etc/fstab

blkid -L

and

mount -l

Your resulting post will be reasonably large and using the quote tags will make it much easier to read! Without them it'll be impenetrable

[Detonate]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

Toad, I was trying to get him to see if we could mount the file first, then move on to writing his fstab entry. I'm thinking having the dirty bit set on that drive is our problem, but using force in the mount command should have fixed that. I hope you can figure it out. Thanks for jumping in!

[dibl]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

It's been awhile since I worked with a ntfs formatted drive, but here's how it used to work:

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3084679.0

The "USB stick" part is not relevant to anything -- the filesystem works the same on a hard drive, just faster.

[toad]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

I have NO experience with ntfs whatsoever at all. I am just covering the usual ground in case of mounting problems...

[Detonate]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

After reading dibl's link, I note that one thing I overlooked was making sure he is a member of the fuse group.

[dibl]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

I don't guarantee that's still required, but that's how it worked when I wrote that guide.

[Detonate]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

OK, karlyguy, open a terminal (I know how much you like doing that ) and enter

groups pixie

and post the output.

[karlyguy]

Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

groups pixie

pixie adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin

ls -la /mnt

pixie@pixie-desktop:~$ ls -la /mnt
total 12
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-12-22 20:38 .
drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2008-12-21 20:00 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-12-22 20:38 sdb1

cat /etc/fstab

pixie@pixie-desktop:~$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config --
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>

proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# Entry for /dev/sda1 :
UUID=e7095f0b-ddf6-4471-a4fb-873effc050b4 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# Entry for /dev/sda5 :
UUID=edbf36e6-6b0a-4713-8f75-396dc94856c5 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
/dev/sdb1 /media/Seagate\040200GB ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_CA.UTF-8 0 0

blkid -L

pixie@pixie-desktop:~$ blkid -L
blkid: invalid option -- L
blkid 1.0.0 (12-Feb-2003)
usage: blkid [-c <file>] [-ghl] [-o format] [-s <tag>] [-t <token>]
[-v] [-w <file>] [dev ...]
-c cache file (default: /etc/blkid.tab, /dev/null = none)
-h print this usage message and exit
-g garbage collect the blkid cache
-s show specified tag(s) (default show all tags)
-t find device with a specific token (NAME=value pair)
-l lookup the the first device with arguments specified by -t
-v print version and exit
-w write cache to different file (/dev/null = no write)
dev specify device(s) to probe (default: all devices)

mount -l

pixie@pixie-desktop:~$ mount -l
/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) &#91;]
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.24-22-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)


also from the forum topic suggested by dibl
it looks like that topics main point is how to get the drive to show up in the "Media" menu, which mine does already. from the beginning it was there... maybe the problem isnt the mount, its that the filestructure was dirty.
would the possible solution be to take the drive to a friends house and run a windows checkdisk ?