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    #46
    Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

    Originally posted by karlyguy

    Code:
    mount -l
    pixie@pixie-desktop:~$ mount -l
    /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) []
    proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
    /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
    varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
    varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
    udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
    devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
    devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
    lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.24-22-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
    securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
    binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
    It's not there -- that means it's not mounted.

    Linux is not fond of spaces in system file names. Why don't you rename the mount point something less tricky, like SEAGATE40, then edit /etc/fstab to change it there, and then issue
    Code:
    sudo mount -a
    and then try the
    Code:
    mount -l
    again.

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      #47
      Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

      I thought the same thing about the filename. I had him make a new mount point in #32. Still didn't work. I'm convinced that we must find a way to reset the dirty bit. He no longer has windows installed, so I'm not sure how to do it without windows installed. I thought the force option would do it, but it didn't.

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        #48
        Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

        Originally posted by dibl
        Originally posted by karlyguy

        Code:
        mount -l
        pixie@pixie-desktop:~$ mount -l
        /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) []
        proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
        /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
        varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
        varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
        udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
        devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
        devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
        lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.24-22-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
        securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
        binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
        It's not there -- that means it's not mounted.

        Linux is not fond of spaces in system file names. Why don't you rename the mount point something less tricky, like SEAGATE40, then edit /etc/fstab to change it there, and then issue
        Code:
        sudo mount -a
        and then try the
        Code:
        mount -l
        again.

        EDIT: I skimmed quick, but I don't see that you ever installed the ntfsprogs package -- sorry if I missed it. If it's not installed, you should install it. Also, there's a "fusectl" thingy -- it is referred to as a "helper filesystem" -- it may be relevant to your situation. Somehow it seems to be running on my system, which has never had a NTFS partition on it:

        dibl@ibex:~$ mount -l
        /dev/sda1 on / type jfs (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro) []
        tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
        /proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
        sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
        varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
        varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
        udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
        tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
        devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
        fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
        /dev/sda2 on /media/docs type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime) []
        /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk_2 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime) []
        /dev/sdc1 on /media/databackups type xfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,logbufs=8) []
        /dev/sdc2 on /media/musicbackup type xfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,logbufs=8) []
        /dev/sdc3 on /media/videos type xfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,logbufs=8) []
        /dev/sdd1 on /media/sidux type jfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime) []
        /dev/sdd3 on /media/images type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime) []
        /dev/sde1 on /media/music type xfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,logbufs=8) []
        securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
        none on /proc/fs/vmblock/mountPoint type vmblock (rw)
        /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,utf8,user=dibl) [Price]
        Google may help -- it's not obvious to me how one decides to install fusectl, but I think you might need it.

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          #49
          Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

          several results from google show that fusectl is a part of FUSE filesystem, its not something that is installed on its own, i have no idea what fuse is or is supposed to do...

          dibl,
          i went into Dolphin file manager and renamed the "Seagate 200GB" to be just "Seagate2", although that didnt seem to stick permanant seems to be just a label...
          here are the results of the code you suggested, i wasnt sure what you had meant by "edit /etc/fstab" so i tried 2 things, 1st was input to command, 2nd was to look for the file in file manager:
          Code:
          edit /etc/fstab
          pixie@pixie-desktop:~$ edit /etc/fstab
          Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/fstab" -- using "application/*"
          Error: no write permission for file "/etc/fstab"

          2nd was open the file directory in Dolphin to /etc/fstab, saw and clicked on the icon there, opened and saw there were 2 pages of code\text = 1st page:
          Code:
          # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
          #
          # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options>   <dump> <pass>
          proc      /proc     proc  defaults    0   0
          # /dev/sda1
          UUID=e7095f0b-ddf6-4471-a4fb-873effc050b4 /       ext3  relatime,errors=remount-ro 0   1
          # /dev/sda5
          UUID=edbf36e6-6b0a-4713-8f75-396dc94856c5 none      swap  sw       0   0
          /dev/scd0   /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0   0
          /dev/scd1   /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0   0
          /dev/fd0    /media/floppy0 auto  rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0   0
          /dev/sdb1 /media/Seagate\040200GB ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_CA.UTF-8 0 0
          2nd page:
          Code:
          # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
          #
          # -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config -- 
          #
          # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options>   <dump> <pass>
          
          proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
          # Entry for /dev/sda1 :
          UUID=e7095f0b-ddf6-4471-a4fb-873effc050b4 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
          # Entry for /dev/sda5 :
          UUID=edbf36e6-6b0a-4713-8f75-396dc94856c5 none swap sw 0 0
          /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
          /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
          /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
          /dev/sdb1 /media/Seagate\040200GB ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_CA.UTF-8 0 0
          > i noticed here is that drive name had not changed despite what i had done, while in this app, i tried to rename the drive, but was unable to do that, got message "access denied to /media/Seagate 200GB"


          Code:
          sudo mount -a
          pixie@pixie-desktop:~$ sudo mount -a
          $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
          Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not supported
          Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:

          Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by
          clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
          taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly.

          Choice 2: If you don't have Windows then you can use the 'force' option for
          your own responsibility. For example type on the command line:

          mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/Seagate 200GB -o force

          Or add the option to the relevant row in the /etc/fstab file:

          /dev/sdb1 /media/Seagate 200GB ntfs-3g force 0 0

          Code:
          mount -l
          pixie@pixie-desktop:~$ mount -l
          /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) &#91;]
          proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
          /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
          varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
          varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
          udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
          devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
          devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
          lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.24-22-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
          securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
          binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
          Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron

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            #50
            Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

            Merry Christmas everyone! TY for you help!
            ill be back on dec.29
            Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron

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              #51
              Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

              solved drive problem.

              took my harddrive to a friends windows machine, ran checkdisk, shut it down; and brought it back home.
              Linux took 1 look at it and yes that is good, assuming that the NTFS 'driver' we had installed was needed for that, and it works just like that.

              if anyone else gets that harddrive error, i would suggest this solution.

              thanks again
              Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron

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                #52
                Re: frustrated new user to ubuntu

                I'm glad you got it working. I'm working with another guy over on the Xubuntu forum that is having exactly the same problem. I will report your success to him.

                http://cafelinux.org/xubuntuforums/i...pic,196.0.html

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