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    Slipstreaming Packages

    Hello there. I am currently a Windows Vista user and I would like to start messing around with programing in Kubuntu. The problem I am running into here is that my computer, with wireless internet, will not work with Linux. While this isn't my biggest problem, the one I am facing is getting MP3, desktop effects, updates, etc. installed on my machine. I am curious as to whether or not you can slipstream deb packages into an .iso file inside of Windows, and if at all possible, how to do such a thing.

    Thank you.
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    Re: Slipstreaming Packages

    Originally posted by eli_pwnd
    Hello there. I am currently a Windows Vista user ...
    Sorry to hear that, but welcome any way.
    and I would like to start messing around with programing in Kubuntu. The problem I am running into here is that my computer, with wireless internet, will not work with Linux.
    That is almost certainly not going to be true. It may be (or not) be straightforward to get setup, but it almost certainly can be.
    While this isn't my biggest problem, the one I am facing is getting MP3, desktop effects, updates, etc. installed on my machine.
    First, do you even have Kubuntu installed? Or have you just been playing around with the LiveCD?
    I am curious as to whether or not you can slipstream deb packages into an .iso file inside of Windows, and if at all possible, how to do such a thing.
    Any .deb package can simply be downloaded - you don't need any special software to do so. One just goes to the site containing the file and (in Windoze) right-clicks on it and chooses the Save link as... option.
    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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      Re: Slipstreaming Packages

      Yeah, I got libxine into the disk now. I've downloaded the ATI Driver installer (which I belive I can install in Kubuntu without internet). Now, I'm just trying to figure out the best way to slipstream Compiz Fusion, if at all possible. Any tips?

      Yes, I Wubi'd Kubuntu on my hard drive, pre-Vista installation. I got frustrated and uninstalled it.

      BTW, I know what I say about Vista won't change anything for Linux users, but Vista really isn't that bad. Especially after u cut all the crap out of it and make it a 700mb install disk.
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        Re: Slipstreaming Packages

        Originally posted by eli_pwnd
        Yes, I Wubi'd Kubuntu on my hard drive, pre-Vista installation. I got frustrated and uninstalled it.
        You won't get 'full functionality' with a Wubi install of Kubuntu. If you are serious about installing Kubuntu, then you can do so as a second OS on your PC. But because you have Vista as the OEM OS, you have to do it correctly, or it won't work. Follow the The definitive dual-booting guide: Linux, Vista and XP step-by-step. I suggest you read through it once, then again for detail. Print it out before you begin. You need to follow the steps in order and exactly. This guide is probably one of the best written. I, as well as others on this Forum highly recommend it. It was the guide I used back when I still had Windoze Vista on my PC.
        Windows no longer obstructs my view.
        Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
        "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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          Re: Slipstreaming Packages

          I've dual booted XP and Ubuntu in the past. I like Wubi because it installs as a program rather than a partition, allowing my games and other applications in Windows to run faster. And Vista isn't an OEM install, rather, I installed it myself as an upgrade. If I mess it up, I already have it backed up as a True Image file.

          I'm still curious, what functionally will I be missing if I use Wubi instead of a proper install?
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            Re: Slipstreaming Packages

            For one, because you are running Kubuntu as a "program" from within Vista, you won't be able to install/use Compiz. Why? Compiz is a WM (windows manager) that controls the look and feel of Kubuntu, not Vista. For another, because Kubuntu is being run as a "program" under Vista, it is subject to the same controls/limitations that Vista imposes on any installed program.

            Added: You might find this thread on the Ubuntu Forum informative:
            [SOLVED]Installing within windows
            Windows no longer obstructs my view.
            Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
            "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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              Re: Slipstreaming Packages

              Ummm, so what your saying is that Wubi virtualizes Kubuntu inside of Vista? Cause, in my mind, that doesn't make sense. Doesn't Wubi make a virtual partition in your hard drive and the only part Vista has to play with it is the installation and deletion of said virtual partition. What you described, in my experience at least, sounds like VMWare or Virtualbox, only somewhat different.

              Edit: Besides the humorous anti-windows basis, this was was very informative. I'm off to defrag, back up, and go for a repartition of my hard drive. Thank you. I will post back to tell you how it went.
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                Re: Slipstreaming Packages

                I have only tried a wubi install once, but I believe you are correct, eli_pwnd. I don't know what the implications are in terms of compiz, but as long as it's not being virtualized I don't see why it should work any differently apart from being a bit slower on disk access.

                Anyway, what's your wireless hardware? Maybe we can get that working and save you the trouble. There are ways to use APT "offline", but I'm not sure how you'd do it without a second Kubuntu machine around. "Slipstreaming" would probably be called "remastering the CD" in the Linux world, but that's rather a chore. Better to deal with the network issues in the first place.
                Dell Optiplex 580<br />Kubuntu 10.10 + backports
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                  Re: Slipstreaming Packages

                  I have to back-track on what I've posted above. Hmm. I've done some Googling on wubi. So that I understand, when you boot Windoze, you are presented with an option to run Kubuntu or Vista (in eli_pwnd's case)? If 'yes,' then it isn't being run as a VM, at least, not in the way one understands a VM to work. So, I'll just defer any other comments to those with experience using Wubi.
                  Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                  Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                  "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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                    Re: Slipstreaming Packages

                    So, all was going well during the Kubuntu install untill I made my partition 160 Gb's insted of 16 Gb's. My hard drive is 153 Gb's. Neeldess to say, I lost everything. Good news, I don't really care, as I have everything backed up.

                    Well, back to the wireless topic. I've tried MadWIFI and NDISwrapper multiple times, only to fail. Apperently, I have this odd Atheros chipset that noone else on the internet seems to have tried on Linux. It's a Zyxel M302 with a Atheros AR5005VL chipset.

                    Oh, and about Wubi. It gives me the choice to choose operating systems. Its like the Windows equivalent of GRUB.
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