ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

[jesar_gacula]

i bought this ide-to-usb cable, which should allow me to use my extra hard drive in backing up my files..
but i encountered a problem..my desktop cannot detect my extra hard drive. i tried it on my asus eeepc,
it worked, so its not the hardware. can anyone teach me how to mount and format my hard drive (or any storage device/s)? ..pls? (^_^)

[Qqmike]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

Try this:

K > System Settings
Advanced
Disk & Filesystems
Administrator Mode (lower right)
Highlight the USB drive partition in question
Modify
Mount point (e.g., if the device is /dev/sdc1, set the mount point as /media/sdc1)
Click so any user can do anything at any time.
Writable.
OK.
Come back out to Disk & Filesystems and click Enable
Quit
And see if it's somewhere (Desktop and/or in Konqueror -> Storage Media)
Worst case: find it and right-click and then Mount.

At Konsole, you can run
sudo fdisk -lu
and see if that brings up anything (and the name of the device, like /dev/sdc1 or whatever).

[jesar_gacula]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

qmike..i did exactly what you told me (well, as far as i understood it)..but still, it doesn't work,

[dibl]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

@jesar, with your external drive connected and running, open the terminal and enter

sudo lsusb

Let's see if the system even sees the device on the USB bus.

[jesar_gacula]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

dude it returned..

Bus 005 Devide 002: ID 14cd:6600
Bus 005 Devide 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 004 Devide 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 003 Devide 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Devide 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 001 Devide 001: ID 0000:0000

what does it mean..?

[Qqmike]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

interjection:
after you did the Disk & Filesystems, then click Enable there,
if you look in Konqueror under Storage Media, it was still not there?
(if it is there, then that's when you might have to right-click it and select Mount)

better listen for what dibl might have to say on this ...

[jesar_gacula]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

Try this:

K > System Settings
Advanced
Disk & Filesystems
Administrator Mode (lower right)
Highlight the USB drive partition in question
Modify
Mount point (e.g., if the device is /dev/sdc1, set the mount point as /media/sdc1)
Click so any user can do anything at any time.
Writable.
OK.
Come back out to Disk & Filesystems and click Enable
Quit
And see if it's somewhere (Desktop and/or in Konqueror -> Storage Media)
Worst case: find it and right-click and then Mount.

At Konsole, you can run
sudo fdisk -lu
and see if that brings up anything (and the name of the device, like /dev/sdc1 or whatever).

dude, i did highlight the usb drive in question but the option 'modify' never enabled...only 'new' was enabled.

[Qqmike]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

I see. And you were in Administrator Mode (button at lower right), right?

OK.

Does the USB drive show up in Disk & Filesystems with any designation, like sdc1?
If so, while dibl is gone, maybe you could try it at the command line.
Konsole
sudo mkdir /media/sdc1
sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1

And you also ran
sudo fdisk -lu
and nothing came up?


Sounds like you've got a hardware detection issue or some-such, and these methods won't work.

[jesar_gacula]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

the message..
mount: you must specify the filesystem type

and, when i typed 'fdisk -lu' it earlier, it showed
this message...
Disk /dev/sdb: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
64 heads, 32 secctors/track, 38166 cylinders, total 78165360 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x4ec74ec7

what does it mean..?

[dibl]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

Let's try something different here. Do you have a Kubuntu Live CD, perchance? If so, put it in your CD ROM drive and, with the external drive plugged in and powered on, boot the Live CD. It has Konqueror, so you can open this forum and maybe we can get your data off your internal hard drive and onto the external drive, so you can re-install. I think you need to reinstall Kubuntu with the new external drive connected and running.

Once the Live CD is booted, let us know, and we'll give instructions to mount both your hard drives and see the data on them (I hope). Meanwhile, I'll write some steps.


Step 1. Alt-F2 "konsole" with no quote marks, to open the konsole. At the prompt,

sudo fdisk -lu

, press Enter, give your password, and post the output here. Next,

sudo blkid

and post that output here also.

Step 2.

sudo mkdir /media/INTERNAL

, hit enter, give your password when requested, and then

sudo mkdir /media/EXTERNAL

Step 3. We will mount both drives, but not until we know the filesystem types and their device ID.

[Qqmike]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

That's just the disk geometry for your hard drive.

(Note:
64 heads x 32 sectors /track = 2048 sectors per cylinder;
then:
2048 sectors/cylinder x 38166 cylinders = 78165360 sectors;
then:
78165360 sectors x 512 bytes/sector = 40020664320 bytes;
so: it all makes sense and is standard stuff)


BUT, what I do NOT see is any partitions on that drive!
Did you partition it?
You should run GParted Live CD to make at least one partition on it, of some format (like ext3 for Linux, NTFS for Windows, or FAT32, whatever).

GParted: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
(download the -10 Live CD version (not -11) and burn an iso live CD)

You can run GParted Live CD to do that.
Connect your USB, get into Kubuntu (or any OS), insert the GParted CD in the tray, then re-boot and the PC will boot from the GParted CD and it * should see your USB drive *, from which you can make a new partition and give it some format (ext3, NTFS, FAT32, etc.). Re-boot, remove the Gparted CD when prompted, and you can boot back into Kubuntu (with the USB still connected and turned On).

THEN, certainly, we hope, your Kubuntu Disk & Filesystems will see it (and Konqueror, too).

[Qqmike]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

oops again !

Saturday (USA) crap shoot @ Kubuntu

[jesar_gacula]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

Step 1. Alt-F2 "konsole" with no quote marks, to open the konsole. At the prompt,

sudo fdisk -lu

, press Enter, give your password, and post the output here. Next,

sudo blkid

and post that output here also.

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -lu

Disk /dev/hda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x4c2d4c2c

  Device Boot   Start     End   Blocks  Id System
/dev/hda1  *     63  163846934  81923436  7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2    166128165  488392064  161131950  83 Linux
/dev/hda3    163846935  166128164   1140615  82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Disk /dev/sdb: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 38166 cylinders, total 78165360 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x4ec74ec7

  Device Boot   Start     End   Blocks  Id System
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo blkid
/dev/hda1: UUID="1CCCC030CCC005CC" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/hda2: UUID="3a3a8941-4fa5-4f4c-8977-09fee18122fa" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/hda3: TYPE="swap" UUID="116ea3b6-f4df-452d-a523-f3825f1b7297"
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$

Step 2.

sudo mkdir /media/INTERNAL

, hit enter, give your password when requested, and then

sudo mkdir /media/EXTERNAL

Step 3. We will mount both drives, but not until we know the filesystem types and their device ID.

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[dibl]

Re: ide to usb...cannot detect hard drive

Aha! No external hard drive seen by the system! So this is a problem.

Unless .... that exernal drive isn't the ONLY drive on that PC, is it?

For fun, enter

sudo lsusb -l

in the console, and lets see if there's anything on the USB bus remotely resembling your external drive.