Trouble installing Gutsy

[ahurd]

I had a problem installing Gutsy and am sure I have to install again but would appreciate feedback on what happened so I will not repeat the failure. The install went perfectly till the very end when (I think) it said reboot was necessary. I wanted to take out install disk but could not-cd beeped at me, etc. I did a cold reboot and removed dvd on process. After logging in, a popup told me "No write access to /home/albert/.ICE authority. KDE is unable to start." After clicking OK, another popup "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation" . After clicking OK the screen immediately filled with garbage. Could anyone tell me what went wrong and how to avoid it. It probably had something with my trying to remove disk.

[Qqmike]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

You indicated: “Could anyone tell me what went wrong and how to avoid it. It probably had something with my trying to remove disk.”

FWIW, I tend to agree. Statements like this can only be based on limited experience, but I've come to realize that one should not try to force eject any live CD or live/bootable flash drive. When those pups don't “release,” unmount, or whatever, their programs, various strange things seem to occur afterwards, and, so it seems, even cause damage to an existing installation. I've personally seen this with live Kubuntu flash drive, live Kubuntu CD, and live GParted CD. An expert could probably explain the why's. But I do know not to tempt fate again.
So, I would agree with your hunch.

(Added: I suspect damage to config files in one's /home.)

[ahurd]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

Thanks for the reply. Are you saying it could have corrupted the partition sda8 I pointed to for /home? I have a backup partition sda9 for that partition. Should I use Kubuntu Live to recopy from sda9 to sda8 before trying to reinstall again?

[DJYoshaBYD]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

when the os is shutting down after the install, its still doing things to configure your box...

do this

re-install kubuntu.. after reinstall, it will say that it needs to restart.. do that... when you see the black screen with the kubuntu logo and th bar below it, WAIT.. it will tell you to remove the disk and press enter... then it restarts, then you are a linux user...

[ahurd]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

Thanks for the reply. Still trouble. I went in with Kubuntu Live and got partition containing /home recopied from backup, and then initiated install and followed your instructions. In earlier install I was confused by message at end of install which said, in part, "be sure to remove DC when restarting which caused me to prematurely remove disk. This time I WAITED, following yr instructions. Everything seemed to go OK, got "Remove CD and press enter". machine rebooted, I logged in, then a popup in upper left corner said "Call to Inusertemp failed (temporary directories full. Check your installation." On closing popup, my screen was filled with same garbage as before. Has my install disk had it. What should I do?

[dibl]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

How much space did you make for Kubuntu? You need a 6GB minimum partition for the filesystem, plus swap space. If you intend to save any data with it, then that will be in addition to the 6GB.

[ahurd]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

The Gutsy install is into a 19 g partition. Speaking of space, the previous install attempt did something very strange to the partition sda8 I reserved for /home and before the install having about 19g of data. I just went into gparted with Partition Magic and it reported 55.72 g in sda8. I thing the install ended with a complaint "/home/albert is out of disk space. KDE is unable to start".

[Qqmike]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

Personally, in a case like this, I'd reason and hope that a total clean install would be less effort and grief than trying to fix these cryptic symptoms.

I'd burn a new Live CD installer.
Check both the MD5sum and the “Check this CD for defects” on the live CD.
Wipe that partition with GParted (or the whole drive—you didn't tell us what's on that drive, what it is, etc.). Set up new partitions in GParted.
Reinstall from the live Kubuntu CD.


That's probably not very helpful, but it would start this over with clear baselines.


To diagnose the current situation any further, seems like from the Live CD you need to get
sudo fdisk -lu and
df -h -T
OR, perhaps GParted Live CD would give a clear picture of what's going on (your drive(s) and partitions).

[ahurd]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

Are both checks ( the MD5sum and defects) on the burned live dvd when it comes up?

[Qqmike]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

1 For the MD5sum, you have to get that from the download website—you first have to look for it! It's a text file. Then compare it to what K3b calculates it to be when it burns the CD.

Or, at a terminal (if you are in some distro), run the md5sum command.
MD5 checksums: md5sum filename_of_iso_file
Then compare the result to the md5sum you downloaded at the site.

2 On the Live CD, on the front options page, there is “Check this CD for defects.”

[ahurd]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

Just checked the integrity of Kubuntu Live and it was ok. MD5sum is another problem. I downloaded the iso on my win2000 dual boot since I didn't have a running Kubuntu distribution. The iso file is still on win2000. I googled for MD5sum windows programs (thee are lots) and tried one, Accuhash 2.0.18. It gave me ACF811303F380D07106D8FD8B923839D, which is not the same as the string for the MD5 file on Kubuntu site. I am very new to this and am not sure how to proceed. I am going to try another download of iso file but I will have to do it on win2000. I hope this one works

[Qqmike]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

It's important that the MD5sum is correct.

[ahurd]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

I have used 2 windows programs to calculate MD5sum for file I used to burn the DVD, and they both agree with each other and with the string in the MD5sum file, so it would appear that the disk is ok and whatever is going wrong in the install is not because of the disk. I will use Kubuntu Live to create more partitions and backups for /home data and try another install, and report results. Thanks.

[Qqmike]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

Be a good idea to use GParted Live CD to do any partitioning prior to running the installer.

[ahurd]

Re: Trouble installing Gutsy

Tried gparted via Partition Magic and it would not let me add a partition to extended even tho lots of room hence my thought ton use K. Perhaps will try again.