Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

[Qqmike]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

Do exactly what Mike said in Reply #28, starting with
cd /media

[Anstrell]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

Qqmike>>I did.

Mike>>Sda1 and sda5 now show up in Konqueror but they are completely empty.

[monte48lowes]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

Do you have both of the partitions mounted?

sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /media/sda5

If you have the directories sda1 and sda5 created, they will show up in konqueror. Even without the partitions being mounted.

Mike

[Anstrell]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

OK, so what I see in Konqueror are the empty folders.

These commands:
sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /media/sda5
Only result in:
mount: mount point /media/sda1 does not exist
mount: mount point /media/sda5 does not exist

[Qqmike]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

I have only jumped into this on page 2, around Reply #28.
The only times I've encountered what you are experiencing are two situations:
1 If I made a typo in the command to make a directory mkdir (Reply #28); for example, in sda1 there are no spaces before s or after 1, and the “1” is the number “one” (not letter “ell”); or if you forgot to use sudo with mkdir;
and
2 When something was messed up with permissions in Disk & Filesystems (i.e., when root owned and ran the whole show and I had nothing and therefore could not even list files or see files):
In GUI, K > System Settings > Advanced > Disk & Filesystems , Administrator mode, right-click the offending partition(s), Modify, and make sure the mount points, permissions, and users are right; OK; then Enable.
(I'm curious what would happen if you opened Konqueror as root by typing at Konsole
kdesu konqueror
then try to open sda1 & sda5—Storage Media--and see what you see.)

[Anstrell]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

Qqmike>>I opened Konqueror with the command you specified and entered the folders sda1 and sda5 with no change. Is that what you meant? I don't really get the difference between device and media.

"...and the “1” is the number “one” (not letter “ell”)" Is it supposed to be sdaL not sda1 (one)?

" K > System Settings > Advanced > Disk & Filesystems"
I don't have that path. I've got K-settings-gparted and K-systems-lots of apps but no advanced or file system.

[monte48lowes]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

The difference between the device and the mount point (in this case in '/media') is this:

The devices are the actual partitions on the various hard drives connected to your system.

For example 'sda1' is the #1 partition on hard drive 'a'. 'sda2' in your case is actually an extended partition. It does not contain any data, but it does contain a logical partition in this case being 'sda5'.

The mount points are the locations in the filesystem that the partitions are mounted.

kubuntu uses the directory '/media' to mount addtional filesystems. For example a cd-rom would be mounted at /media/cdrom. This folder can exist without a partition being mounted there. An example in windows would be the cd-rom drive (D:/, E:/ etc...). The cd-rom drive shows up in 'My Computer' even when the cd tray is empty. So, the mount point exists even when no media/partition is mounted there [even in windows].

I hope this makes sense. The overall objective of what I have been giving directions for is this:

1) Create a mount point for 'sda1' & 'sda5'
2) Mount the partitions 'sda1' & 'sda5'
3) Have you copy the files you have on 'sda1' to 'sda5'

Mike

[Anstrell]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

It's quite clear now. Thanks for breaking it down. What puzzles me is that I don't have the same K-menu structure as you seem to do.

Why does the console say that the mount point doesn't exist?

[monte48lowes]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

"mount point doesn't exist" means that the folder you are trying to mount the partition to doesn't exist.

ls /media

should list:

cdrom cdrom0 floppy floppy0 sda1 sda5

You can ignore the cdrom and floppy entries since those are not being used in this case. The important two are 'sda1' and 'sda5'.

Mike

[Anstrell]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

ls /media just says "disk"

[monte48lowes]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

Follow each step one by one. In the same konsole.

cd /media

sudo mkdir sda1

sudo mkdir sda5

sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1

sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /media/sda5

Mike

[Anstrell]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

I followed the instructions with the same result as before. After all, I was repeating the action precisely so any other result would be wierd.

[monte48lowes]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

After completing those steps, what is the output of 'ls /media'?

Mike

[Anstrell]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

Now I'm completely lost. I think that there were a few small steps that were overlooked. When I start the console I press alt+F2. Then I click options and check run in terminal window to see what happens. Then it only accepts one command and I have to open a new shell to continue. This time I opened a new shell and entered all the commands in the same window and I got different results. It accepted the mkdir commands where it previously said that they already existed and the first mounting command. To the second mounting command it said "mount:wrong fs type, bad option..." and so on.

In Konqueror the sda1 and sda5 are folders under "home". I can access the harddrive in polphin under storage devices and root, but I can only find what seems to be the files the live CD installed, not the old files.

I'm considering giving this rescue operation up to try and recover the info from the externat harddrive on a friends' window computer and reinstall kubuntu on my laptop.
What do you think, can we save this from my laptop or do we give up?

[monte48lowes]

Re: Kubunto won't boot after entering the console

The files you originally placed on your external hard drive are still on the external hard drive. When a file is moved or deleted, teh file is not actually deleted. The address to that file is removed. The program 'Photorec' can extract all the files from the external hard drive whether they are visible in konqueror or not.

My recommendation at this point is to reinstall your system. After you have your system running, copy the files from the external hard drive that are visible. Recover the remaining files using 'Photorec'.

I have used photorec in the past. It will recover every file it can find on that hard drive. I have over 10,000 photos and a few thousand MP3's that is recovered.

Here are some directions for photorec:
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step

Mike