Problem with installing programs

[Re-JeeP]

Hello!

I have recently installed Kubuntu on my laptop.

I am not use to linux so I'm having some differculties with installing some program.

I have succesfully installed firefox and thunderbird.

Firefox I installed through the console (sudo apt-get install firefox) and
Thunderbird I installed through the package manager.

Then I installed The Gimp through the package manager and it said that i was succesfully installed but I can't find it anywhere.
I've tried through the console and the "start-menu".

And then I have a question regarding an installation of for example krusader which I can't find in the package manager.

I have tried to download a .deb file an install it but I didn't succed.
I have heard that there is a way to update the package manager so i should find programs like krusader there.

I appreciate all the help I can get!

Best regards // Johan

[new-to-kubuntu]

Re: Problem with installing programs

You can also start programs from a shell:
$gimp &

that is if the path to the file is in your .bash_profile

You can locate it by typing:
$which gimp
$whereis gimp
$locate gimp -needs $updatedb first, but use which

to see what the commands means, type $man which

If its installed, I guess you will find it if you look closely under graphics, gimp script would normally be installed under /usr/bin/gimp

$/usr/bin/gimp &
will start the program if its installed

I am new to this distro my self, and are not to familiar with the extended use of sudo and how much it covers for admin routins, but making yourself a password for the root account might be a good thing I guess,
$sudo passwd root

to use root account
$su

kai

[kubicle]

Re: Problem with installing programs

Then I installed The Gimp through the package manager and it said that i was succesfully installed but I can't find it anywhere.
I've tried through the console and the "start-menu".

You can add gimp to the K-menu yourself, right-click on it and choose 'menu editor'

I have heard that there is a way to update the package manager so i should find programs like krusader there

The thing you need to do is include the 'universe' repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list

kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list

Uncomment (remove the #) lines that refer to the 'universe' repositories

[Re-JeeP]

Re: Problem with installing programs

Okey!

Thanks for the answers!

I just have a question about the command you wrote: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"

What does the command mean?
Does that commad include the 'universe' repositories in to my file or do I have to do anything else to include it?

Is there some kind of manual where I can see what these kind of commands means?

Thanks!!

[kubicle]

Re: Problem with installing programs

What does the command mean?

kdesu (and sudo) are tools to open programs with administrative (root) privileges.
In linux, normal users can't change system files (basically everything outside users own HOME folder)...kubuntu uses these tools to allow a user to modify their system. Kdesu is used with GUI programs (as some GUI programs won't work with sudo).

So 'kdesu <program>' will open <program> with the ability to modify system files.
kdesu (and sudo) will also ask your password (as a security feature).

'kate' is just a (versatile) editor...you can use other programs (like 'kwrite') as well.

'/etc/apt/sources.list' tells kate to open this file (you can use 'kdesu kate' and then open /etc/apt/sources.list with kate's open file dialog as well if you prefer).

Does that commad include the 'universe' repositories in to my file or do I have to do anything else to include it?

'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list' will just open the sources.list for you to edit and save...you still need to uncomment those universe lines yourself.

Is there some kind of manual where I can see what these kind of commands means?

'man' and '--help' or '-h' are nice tools to decipher commands, try for example:

man kdesu

or

kate --help

Note: Usually (but not always) there are graphical ways to do what these kind of commands are for (You can, for example, right-click on sources.list in konqueror and choose Actions|Edit as Root). It is just quicker and shorter to post the command rather than describing a whole chain of actions ...you'll get used to commands quickly, don't worry :P

[Re-JeeP]

Re: Problem with installing programs

Okej, I'll try and come back with results! :P

Thank you!

[kubicle]

Re: Problem with installing programs

np

Don't forget to do a 'sudo apt-get update' or click 'Fetch Updates' in Adept to refresh the package-list once you've edited your sources.list (you won't see the universe packages before you've done that).

[Re-JeeP]

Re: Problem with installing programs

Can you say that apt-get is "the same (function)" as the package manager?

[kubicle]

Re: Problem with installing programs

Can you say that apt-get is "the same (function)" as the package manager?

apt (apt-get, apt-cache etc.) is the basic tool, package managers like adept, synaptic and aptitude are just 'front-ends' (interfaces) for apt.

So basically they are 'the same tool' (you can use whichever you prefer)...all have their advantages and disadvantages.

[Re-JeeP]

Re: Problem with installing programs

Weee.... It's working! 

Thanks all for your help!

Best regards // Johan

[Lobo]

Re: Problem with installing programs

Hello!

Then I installed The Gimp through the package manager and it said that i was succesfully installed but I can't find it anywhere.
I've tried through the console and the "start-menu".

Best regards // Johan

You can use the 'Run Command' in KMenu and enter 'kappfinder'. It searches and gives a list of programs that are not in the standard KDE menu. You can click on the boxes next to those it finds and it will put them in KMenu.

You may have to install kappfinder first with Adept/Synaptic.

[kiryo]

Re: Problem with installing programs

im also having a small problem with installing program.
Im trying to install vmware player (trough shell) it says:
unable to get access rights of source file "./bin".
How can i fix this?

[aysiu]

Re: Problem with installing programs

Are you using the .rpm or the .tar.gz?

The .rpm may be easier to install

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install alien
cd Desktop
sudo alien -i VMware-player-1.0.1-19317.i386.rpm