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**Snowhog** · Jan 28, 2008, 02:05 AM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

First, Welcome to the Kubuntu Forums. Second, the nature of your post isn't going to garner much approval. Posting the entire contents of a thread from another Forum or listserve, and expecting others to filter through it to figure out what you are asking help on isn't going to go over well at all. That said, reading your last sentence, you are looking for help with your network card and video card. There is help here. I would ask you to modify your post (click the modify button) and remove everything you just posted, and simply state your question: How do I get my video card and network card configured?

You will need to provide us with:

Version of Kubuntu you are running.
Whether you have a 32 or 64-bit CPU
Model of Nvidia card you have
Manufacture/model network card and how it's connected (internal, USB, ?)

You are going to get a better response from the members here if you do this. This Forum (as well as others) has some 'loose rules' designed to help members get the most from the Forum. Our host, Open Source, has a Help section that is full of very good information, and you can review it by clicking on the Help link in the upper right corner of the main title bar.

**Billzilla** · Jan 28, 2008, 03:56 AM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

I'll leave the long text up, I'm just trying to make life easier for the people that might help, so they don't have to repeat things that have already been done.

Version of Kubuntu you are running - Kubuntu 7.10
Whether you have a 32 or 64-bit CPU - Athlon64 x2 4200
Model of Nvidia card you have - 6800GT 256meg
Manufacture/model network card and how it's connected (internal, USB, ?) - Internal PCI, Netgear WG311 V3.

The network card thingy was delved into a little more on the other forum and we came up with this ->
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb Host Bridge (rev a1)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce 250Gb PCI System Management (rev a1)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK8S USB Controller (rev a1)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK8S USB Controller (rev a1)
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev
a2)
00:05.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK8S Ethernet Controller (rev a2)
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audi
o Controller (rev a1)
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK8S Parallel ATA Controller (v2.5) (r ev a2)
00:0a.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK8S Serial ATA Controller (v2.5) (rev a2)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AGP Host to PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb PCI-to-PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTra nsport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Con troller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscella neous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800 GT] (re v a1)
02:07.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [libertas] 80 2.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)
02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
02:09.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy Game Port (rev 03)
02:09.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port

**dibl** · Jan 28, 2008, 05:15 AM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

Did you install the 64-bit or the 32-bit version of Kubuntu? Doesn't make a huge difference for most purposes, but it's one of the things to be taken into consideration.

Firstly, whoever told you Linux was "easy" apparently used that term in the sense of "Mandarin is easy for a native-speaker". In other words, NOT! I'd say daily use of a Linux system is pretty easy, but installing and configuring a Linux system is not like anything you've ever done before, and errrrrr ... complicated.

So, having said that, I recommend a "one thing at a time" approach -- usually folks first want their GUI to work. I also had bad luck with the Restricted Drivers Manager, but it didn't give me the error it gave you. For fun, let's give it one more try. First open your Konsole and just copy and paste in these commands to get the packages needed for a proprietary driver installation:

Code:

sudo apt-get install build-essential

{hit "Enter" and give your password}

Code:

sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`

{hit "Enter" and give your password}

Code:

sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new

{hit "Enter" and give your password}

If you see a series of operations with no error messages, i.e. it appears to complete the operations and returns you to the prompt, then you can close the Konsole, and click "Restricted Driver Manager" again, and let's see what happens.

If it fails again, unclick it and follow this guidance to download and install the Envy script installer:

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3086232.0

Let us know how you fare, and once we get the video thing working correctly, we'll have a look at Priority #2, which you can identify.

**Billzilla** · Jan 28, 2008, 06:17 AM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

It's a 64bit install.

Originally posted by dibl

For fun, let's give it one more try. First open your Konsole and just copy and paste in these commands to get the packages needed for a proprietary driver installation:

Code:

sudo apt-get install build-essential

{hit "Enter" and give your password}

Thanks!
However it doesn't seem to work at the end.
"reading packae lists ... done
buillding dependency tree
reading state information .... done
E: couldn't find package build-essential

Originally posted by dibl

Code:

sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`

{hit "Enter" and give your password}

Same first three lines, then it again couldn't find the package.

Originally posted by dibl

Code:

sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new

{hit "Enter" and give your password}

Similar, but a longer message saying that it can't find the package.

Originally posted by dibl

If you see a series of operations with no error messages, i.e. it appears to complete the operations and returns you to the prompt, then you can close the Konsole, and click "Restricted Driver Manager" again, and let's see what happens.

As it has done every time before, it fails to enable.

Originally posted by dibl

If it fails again, unclick it and follow this guidance to download and install the Envy script installer:

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3086232.0

Let us know how you fare, and once we get the video thing working correctly, we'll have a look at Priority #2, which you can identify.

I downloaded it, and it came up with the error message "dependency is not satisfiable: python-gtk2"
It also seems to be a script that downloads the nvidia drivers from the Internet, and I can't do that at the moment either because the wireless network card isn't working.

So still not much luck sorry.

**dibl** · Jan 28, 2008, 09:05 AM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

Excellent - now we're getting somewhere!

There's clearly a problem with your sources list (the list of enabled repositories). Open Adept Manager, click "Adept" and then "Repositories" and make sure that "universe" and "multiverse" are checked, in addition to whatever is already checked. I assume you've already removed your CD from the sources under "Third Party" tab -- if not do that and you can stop being annoyed by the demand to insert your CD.

When you think the sources are correct, click "Refresh" or "Fetch" or whatever it says there at the left end of the Adept top bar menu, and then you can close Adept, open the Konsole, and try again with the commands that I gave you. If you're in doubt about the sources, search on "source list" or "repositories" on this forum and/or Ubuntu Forum and there are about a zillion posts on the topic, so you should be able to get yourself up to speed on this important subject.

**Billzilla** · Jan 28, 2008, 01:24 PM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

Originally posted by dibl

Excellent - now we're getting somewhere!

There's clearly a problem with your sources list (the list of enabled repositories). Open Adept Manager, click "Adept" and then "Repositories" and make sure that "universe" and "multiverse" are checked, in addition to whatever is already checked. I assume you've already removed your CD from the sources under "Third Party" tab -- if not do that and you can stop being annoyed by the demand to insert your CD.

When you think the sources are correct, click "Refresh" or "Fetch" or whatever it says there at the left end of the Adept top bar menu, and then you can close Adept, open the Konsole, and try again with the commands that I gave you. If you're in doubt about the sources, search on "source list" or "repositories" on this forum and/or Ubuntu Forum and there are about a zillion posts on the topic, so you should be able to get yourself up to speed on this important subject.

It seems to need to be on-line for those updates to work, and that can't happen until the wireless networking card works unfortunately.
I hadn't unchecked the CD from the third party tab, but it's never asked me for it at any point.
I've (apparently) got the right drivers for the video and networking cards sitting right on the desktop, but have not been able to install them yet.

**dibl** · Jan 28, 2008, 02:17 PM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

Originally posted by Billzilla

It seems to need to be on-line for those updates to work, and that can't happen until the wireless networking card works unfortunately.

Uh-boy .... yep, we kind of assume an Internet connection. No way to wire it into your router, even as a temporary hookup? That would make this a whole lot easier.

I hadn't unchecked the CD from the third party tab, but it's never asked me for it at any point.

Hmmm -- probably directly related to the aforementioned non-functioning sources list. I take it that you made the installation CD with an ISO downloaded on a connected PC, then used it to install Kubuntu on this non-connected PC. Nothing wrong with that, except the lack of Internet connection prevents the installation process from setting up your source repositories, leaving that part of your system a little brain-dead. :P

OK, I'm not an expert on this type of installation, but I THINK you might want to look into the possibility of making an installation DVD, because it has the equivalent of most of the packages that are available in the Internet repositories. In other words, you need access to the packages that are used to get your wireless card working, and I dunno if they are even on the installation CD. The idea would be to set up the DVD as THE repository for you system, and then to install the appropriate driver package for your wireless. Let's see -- Marvell 88w8335. Have you searched the Ubuntu Forum to see what driver it needs? Once the driver is installed and you have wireless working, then you can change the repositories to the Internet repos.

A word of caution -- while wireless web surfing and e-mail and so forth should work fine (he says, not knowing about Marvell chips), you really don't want to do system maintenance and software installation via a wireless link unless it is really, really solid. In other words, dropouts during a system update are bad things, and cause trouble.

I hope this is at least marginally helpful!

EDIT: You're going to need this information:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...=netgear+wg311

and apparently this too:

http://endlessbeta.org/misc/wg311v3_ndis_amd64.tar.bz2

**Billzilla** · Jan 28, 2008, 03:24 PM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

Originally posted by dibl

Originally posted by Billzilla

It seems to need to be on-line for those updates to work, and that can't happen until the wireless networking card works unfortunately.

Uh-boy .... yep, we kind of assume an Internet connection. No way to wire it into your router, even as a temporary hookup? That would make this a whole lot easier.

I hadn't unchecked the CD from the third party tab, but it's never asked me for it at any point.

Hmmm -- probably directly related to the aforementioned non-functioning sources list. I take it that you made the installation CD with an ISO downloaded on a connected PC, then used it to install Kubuntu on this non-connected PC. Nothing wrong with that, except the lack of Internet connection prevents the installation process from setting up your source repositories, leaving that part of your system a little brain-dead. :P

OK, I'm not an expert on this type of installation, but I THINK you might want to look into the possibility of making an installation DVD, because it has the equivalent of most of the packages that are available in the Internet repositories. In other words, you need access to the packages that are used to get your wireless card working, and I dunno if they are even on the installation CD. The idea would be to set up the DVD as THE repository for you system, and then to install the appropriate driver package for your wireless. Let's see -- Marvell 88w8335. Have you searched the Ubuntu Forum to see what driver it needs? Once the driver is installed and you have wireless working, then you can change the repositories to the Internet repos.

A word of caution -- while wireless web surfing and e-mail and so forth should work fine (he says, not knowing about Marvell chips), you really don't want to do system maintenance and software installation via a wireless link unless it is really, really solid. In other words, dropouts during a system update are bad things, and cause trouble.

I hope this is at least marginally helpful!

EDIT: You're going to need this information:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...=netgear+wg311

and apparently this too:

http://endlessbeta.org/misc/wg311v3_ndis_amd64.tar.bz2

Yeah that helps a little thanks.

I read this page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wi...tgear_WG311_v3 - and carefully followed the instructions to the letter. It all worked as written up to this point ->
"Once ndiswrapper lists both the driver and the device, you need to insert the kernel module. Thus:
sudo modprobe ndiswrapper

Once that has run, check to see whether it worked:"

Nothing happens when I run that sudo command. And so iwconfig comes up with nothing.

I followed the links you provided and I then installed the 64bit drivers. No change.

And yes at the moment I'm using this WindowsXp laptop to download/surf/etc and then a USB stick to transfer the files.
That has been unreliable as well - I had to reboot the computer as the latest lot of new files I put on the USB stick simply would not show up on it.

**Billzilla** · Jan 28, 2008, 03:46 PM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

Never mind - I've decided to not waste any more time with (K)Ubuntu.
I'll try Mepis next and if that is equally as bad then I will have to also give up on Linux again for the next couple of years.

Thanks anyway.

**dibl** · Jan 28, 2008, 04:06 PM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

Understand. I run Mepis 7 64-bit also -- it's a very nice Linux distribution. The "not connected to Internet while installing" situation is going to produce similar results, I'm afraid. :P If you can find a way to get connected during the installation and the first update thereafter, I think you'll find much superior results.

However, good luck with it and your further adventures!

**Billzilla** · Jan 28, 2008, 04:15 PM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

Originally posted by dibl

Understand. I run Mepis 7 64-bit also -- it's a very nice Linux distribution. The "not connected to Internet while installing" situation is going to produce similar results, I'm afraid. :P If you can find a way to get connected during the installation and the first update thereafter, I think you'll find much superior results.

However, good luck with it and your further adventures!

FWIW it's better immediately ....
Mepis in & running now.
2/3 problems solved without doing anything -
Sound now works, and the screen is running perfectly at 1920 x 1200 under the native Nvidia driver.

Now to get the wireless card working ...

**dibl** · Jan 28, 2008, 04:18 PM

Re: Huge problems and massively unimpressed so far

Cool -- good luck with it! You're making me very glad I've "only" got a desktop and router, and no wireless lappy!

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