New to Kubuntu/Linux world and quite lost ...

[dibl]

Re: New to Kubuntu/Linux world and quite lost ...

The only solution i've got is to enter the "DPKG-reconfigure xserver-xorg" script and choose Vesa once again . After that the system works fine .
The problem exists with all the 3 drivers Envy comes with .

Try logging in to that "DOS-like" screen, then enter

sudo envy -t

and try it that way.

[gavyl]

Re: New to Kubuntu/Linux world and quite lost ...

Is there a more "suitable" way to call that "Dos-like" ? :P Terminal maybe ?
Anyway its giving me this message :

Envy does not recognise your card as compatible with any version of
the driver.this might happen because either your card is not supported by the dr iver or Envy's hardwaredetection failed. You can try the manual installation at your risk.

I'm using Ati Redaon IGP 340M . Quite old and lame .
Am i doomed ?

[kubicle]

Re: New to Kubuntu/Linux world and quite lost ...

I'm using Ati Redaon IGP 340M . Quite old and lame .
Am i doomed ?

Try the open source 'radeon' driver, it performs quite well on older ati cards (including 3d).
from 'man radeon':

DESCRIPTION
radeon is an Xorg driver for ATI RADEON based video cards. It contains full support for 8, 15, 16
and 24 bit pixel depths, dual-head setup, flat panel, hardware 2D acceleration, hardware 3D accel-
eration, hardware cursor, XV extension, and the Xinerama extension.

SUPPORTED HARDWARE
The radeon driver supports PCI and AGP video cards based on the following ATI chips
R100 Radeon 7200
RV100 Radeon 7000(VE), M6, RN50/ES1000
RS100 Radeon IGP320(M)
RV200 Radeon 7500, M7, FireGL 7800
RS200 Radeon IGP330(M)/IGP340(M)
RS250 Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP
R200 Radeon 8500, 9100, FireGL 8800/8700
RV250 Radeon 9000PRO/9000, M9
RS300 Radeon 9100 IGP
RS350 Radeon 9200 IGP
RS400 Radeon XPRESS 200/200M IGP (2d only)
RV280 Radeon 9200PRO/9200/9200SE, M9+
R300 Radeon 9700PRO/9700/9500PRO/9500/9600TX, FireGL X1/Z1
R350 Radeon 9800PRO/9800SE/9800, FireGL X2
R360 Radeon 9800XT
RV350 Radeon 9600PRO/9600SE/9600, M10/M11, FireGL T2
RV360 Radeon 9600XT
RV370 Radeon X300, M22
RV380 Radeon X600, M24
RV410 Radeon X700, M26 PCIE
R420 Radeon X800 AGP
R423/R430 Radeon X800, M28 PCIE
R480/R481 Radeon X850 PCIE/AGP

Select the 'radeon' driver when reconfiguring the xserver or edit xorg.conf directly

[gavyl]

Re: New to Kubuntu/Linux world and quite lost ...

Radeon doesn't show up at the Xserver menu . And when i try to edit the xorg.conf (Deleting Vesa and writing 'Radeon') It's says i can't save the file , i'm not authorized .

[Snowhog]

Re: New to Kubuntu/Linux world and quite lost ...

xorg.conf must be edited by root.

[kubicle]

Re: New to Kubuntu/Linux world and quite lost ...

xorg.conf must be edited by root.

Yup, sorry for not providing step-by-step instructions:

In the terminal, run

sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf

(This will open xorg.conf for editing in the nano editor (it's good to know how to use a command line editor in case your GUI doesn't start...Note there's a capital X in 'X11')

Edit Driver to "radeon" and save with Ctrl+O (+enter), you can exit nano with Ctrl+X.

[gavyl]

Re: New to Kubuntu/Linux world and quite lost ...

Ok , when i changed it to Radeon and restart the comp i get a really messed up stuttering and doubled monitor . I guess it's due the fact my computer doesn't have the radeon driver installed (As i said before , It doesn't show up at the Xserver menu) . I had to get it back to Vesa .
Where i can get this "open source Radeon driver" ? A google search didn't found anything relevant .

Thanks

[kubicle]

Re: New to Kubuntu/Linux world and quite lost ...

The radeon driver is in the package xserver-xorg-video-ati (which should be installed by default, but it doesn't hurt to check...you can also reinstall the package to be absolutely sure everything is installed).

The problem might be that your monitor capabilities are not detected correctly (if you haven't added them manually)...and of course it could be a problem with the driver itself. (You can also try "ati" driver to see if that works, it's in the same package).

You can post your xorg.conf file and the make and model of your monitor here to see if we can offer new things you can try. Googling for your monitor and graphics card models may also help in finding someone with a similar setup and possible recommendations/solutions.

[gavyl]

Re: New to Kubuntu/Linux world and quite lost ...

The radeon driver is in the package xserver-xorg-video-ati (which should be installed by default, but it doesn't hurt to check...you can also reinstall the package to be absolutely sure everything is installed).

The problem might be that your monitor capabilities are not detected correctly (if you haven't added them manually)...and of course it could be a problem with the driver itself. (You can also try "ati" driver to see if that works, it's in the same package).

You can post your xorg.conf file and the make and model of your monitor here to see if we can offer new things you can try. Googling for your monitor and graphics card models may also help in finding someone with a similar setup and possible recommendations/solutions.

Ok , Here we go . That's the information i've got from the HP website :

Display
Display Type: 15" TFT active matrix
Max Resolution: 1024 x 768 ( XGA )
Widescreen Display: No
Colour support: 24-bit (16.7 million colours)

Video
Graphics Processor / Vendor: ATI Radeon IGP340M - AGP 4x
Video Memory: Shared Video Memory (UMA)

That's my xorg.conf file :
# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "0"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "stylus"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "eraser"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "cursor"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M"
Driver "vesa"
BusID "PCI:1:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Generic Monitor"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30-60
VertRefresh 50-75
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"

# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
# InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
EndSection