.cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

[Vitoriung]

I've decided to try Kubuntu linux,
but instalation process cannot see my IDE HDD,

lspci -v
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
    Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company d530 CMT (DG746A)
    Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
    I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
    I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
    I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
    I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
    I/O ports at 24c0 [size=16]
    Memory at 70000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]

00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO])
    Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company d530 CMT (DG746A)
    Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
    I/O ports at 24f0 [size=8]
    I/O ports at 2808 [size=4]
    I/O ports at 24f8 [size=8]
    I/O ports at 280c [size=4]
    I/O ports at 24d0 [size=16]

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
    Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company d330 uT
    Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
    I/O ports at fc00 [size=32]

 dmesg | grep ata
[  53.765797] libata version 2.21 loaded.
[  53.984658] ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: version 2.11
[  53.984870] scsi0 : ata_piix
[  53.984952] scsi1 : ata_piix
[  53.985134] ata1: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000101f0 ctl 0x000103f6 bmdma 0x000124c0 irq 14
[  53.985141] ata2: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00010170 ctl 0x00010376 bmdma 0x000124c8 irq 15
[  59.167893] ata1: port is slow to respond, please be patient (Status 0xd0)
[  63.973538] ata1: SRST failed (errno=-16)
[  64.460729] ata2.00: ATAPI: _NEC DVD_RW ND-4551A, 1-07, max UDMA/33
[  64.632342] ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
[  64.634916] ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: MAP [ P0 -- P1 -- ]
[  64.787904] scsi2 : ata_piix
[  64.787986] scsi3 : ata_piix
[  64.788032] ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000124f0 ctl 0x0001280a bmdma 0x000124d0 irq 18
[  64.788037] ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000124f8 ctl 0x0001280e bmdma 0x000124d8 irq 18

So drivers seems to be correct (libata, ata_piix), but doesnt work with my hard drive. (WD 80GB)

I have Gentoo Linux on this machine, working without any of the such problems.

Has anybody seen similar issue and is there any previous install version where could this work?

Thanks

[dibl]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

Did you get this output when running the Live CD?

This part seems like it could be a problem:

[ 59.167893] ata1: port is slow to respond, please be patient (Status 0xd0)
[ 63.973538] ata1: SRST failed (errno=-16)

What does the same dmesg output look like after booting Gentoo?

[Vitoriung]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

yes this output is from running Kubuntu or Ubuntu Live CD (DVD)

In my gentoo it gives me -

ReiserFS: hda3: using ordered data mode
libata version 2.21 loaded.
ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: version 2.11
ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: MAP [ P0 -- P1 -- ]
scsi0 : ata_piix
scsi1 : ata_piix
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000124f0 ctl 0x0001280a bmdma 0x000124d0 irq 17
ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000124f8 ctl 0x0001280e bmdma 0x000124d8 irq 17
ata1.00: ATA-7: Maxtor 7Y250M0, YAR51HW0, max UDMA/133
ata1.00: 490234752 sectors, multi 16: LBA48
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
ata2.00: ATA-6: WDC WD2000JD-00GBB0, 02.05D02, max UDMA/100
ata2.00: 390721968 sectors, multi 16: LBA48
ata2.00: applying bridge limits
ata2.00: configured for UDMA/100

(and grep hda) -

Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda3
  ide0: BM-DMA at 0x24c0-0x24c7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
hda: WDC WD800JB-00ETA0, ATA DISK drive
hda: selected mode 0x45
hda: max request size: 512KiB
hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100)
hda: cache flushes supported
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
ReiserFS: hda3: found reiserfs format "3.6" with standard journal
ReiserFS: hda3: using ordered data mode
ReiserFS: hda3: journal params: device hda3, size 8192, journal first block 18, max trans len 1024, max batch 900, max commit age 30, max trans age 30
ReiserFS: hda3: checking transaction log (hda3)
ReiserFS: hda3: journal-1153: found in header: first_unflushed_offset 2124, last_flushed_trans_id 413631
ReiserFS: hda3: journal-1206: Starting replay from offset 1776535912581196, trans_id 3224003242
ReiserFS: hda3: journal-1299: Setting newest_mount_id to 314
ReiserFS: hda3: Using r5 hash to sort names
Adding 1959920k swap on /dev/hda2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1959920k

I am not very happy form this, my MB contians IDE as well as SATA, gentoo uses modules libata for IDE and ata_piix for SATA?

The same think tries Kubuntu but cannot see IDE interface...

Is there a chance to try previous version and upgrade to current without expecting same issues?

Thanks

[Qqmike]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

You might try doing the partitioning and formatting before running the installer.
Use GParted to partition your IDE for whatever you will need (/swap, root ?, /home?), all ext3 (or whatever you want). Then run the live Cd installer. Use the manual partitioning method, watch for the Advanced button is Step 6 (at lower right), and specify where you want GRUB installed.
If in doubt, you can simply have GRUB installed to the same partition that you put Kubuntu root files in (and then later work out the booting).
See if it goes then.

[dibl]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

Is there a chance to try previous version and upgrade to current without expecting same issues?

I don't think any recent prior version (7.04 or 6.10) would give a different result.

In my BIOS, there are several IDE "modes" to choose. "AHCP", "legacy", and I can't remember the third. Do you have choices? Maybe you could try a different mode setting. :P

[Vitoriung]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

I dont think partitioning will change the situation, because until system cannot see your drive as /dev/hda or /dev/sda doesn't matter how it's partitioned...

In my bios >this is bloody HP I have only PIO and UDMA, or LBA and bitshift options... I tried to change everything what could help but it didn't...

I'll try to use another HD and let know...

THX

[Vitoriung]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

Kubuntu kubuntu ..

I found out that (K)ubuntu instalation doesn't see my HDD switched as Master, so I changed jumper to CS and it works!.. but..

..I loaded Live DVD instaled system and after reboot system freeze on starting Kubuntu screen and on keyboard blinks Caps and Num Locks...

So I am investigating again...

[dibl]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

Kubuntu kubuntu ..

I found out that (K)ubuntu instalation doesn't see my HDD switched as Master, so I changed jumper to CS and it works!.. but..

..I loaded Live DVD instaled system and after reboot system freeze on starting Kubuntu screen and on keyboard blinks Caps and Num Locks...

So I am investigating again...

Wow -- I didn't know the "cs" jumper could make such a difference -- good catch!

The keyboard thing could be a problem with the xorg.conf file. Then next time it freezes like that, try "Alt-F1" and/or "Ctrl-Alt-F1". If you get the console login prompt, log in and then run the xserver configuration script, which is

sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

and see if you can work your way through it. Probably the defaults for keyboard and mouse will work, unless you have some specific differences. When you finish the script, it dumps you back to a command line. At that point, enter

startx

and see what happens.

[Vitoriung]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

I've just tried something else, configured grub for recovery mode, booted in that mode and got kernel panic...

Begin: Running / scripts/init-premount...
Done.
Begin: Mounting root file system... ...
/init: /init: 157: Syntax error: 0x88d08091-d9cd-45a8-830a-61ed100852ba
[ 16.706305] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init|

So its still about hard drive, UUID for my hda can read in fstab, cannot I?

# <file system> <mount point>  <type> <options>    <dump> <pass>
proc      /proc      proc  defaults    0    0
# /dev/sda4
UUID=88d08091-d9cd-45a8-830a-61ed100852ba /        reiserfs notail     0    1
# /dev/sda1
UUID=df4a21a1-2ad9-4c79-8623-e3fb89b5d60a /media/sda1   ext2  defaults    0    2
# /dev/sda3
UUID=99b50fd9-453d-45ab-8b83-e11fe6759ddb /media/sda3   reiserfs defaults    0    2
# /dev/sda2
UUID=c00bc813-719c-46bc-a5bd-46c109ccd4af none      swap  sw       0    0
/dev/scd0    /media/cdrom0  udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0    0

in my case is Kubuntu installed sda4, sda1 - boot, sda2 - swap, sda3 - Gentoo

grub.conf

title      Kubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root      (hd0,3)
kernel     /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=88d08091-d9cd-45a8-830a-61ed100852ba ro quiet splash
initrd     /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title      Kubuntu 7.10, recovery
root      (hd0,3)
kernel     /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=88d08091-d9cd-45a8-830a-61ed100852ba ro single
initrd     /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
boot

Is it correct?

Bloody hard disk, will try something else, catch you later...

[Snowhog]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

It looks like the kernel line in your /boot/grub/menu.lst file isn't written correctly. Based on what you have in your fstab file, your kernel lines should look like this:

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=88d08091-d9cd-45a8-830a-61ed100852ba

Your root directory, as reported by fstab, is located on /dev/sda4, and this is where grub is looking to boot from as evidenced in the error message (the UUID listed matches that on /dev/sda4 in fstab):

Begin: Mounting root file system... ...
/init: /init: 157: Syntax error: 0x88d08091-d9cd-45a8-830a-61ed100852ba

You say that you have sda1 as your boot partition. Is that actually correct? Did you establish a separation partion for /boot ?

[Vitoriung]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

No, I have just one boot partition, /dev/hda1 (in Gentoo)

I have the same configuration, but Ubuntu installed on my another computer in living room, and there wasn't any problem and grub.conf is configured the very same way...

[dibl]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

You can read the UUIDs of your partitions with

blkid

I'm guessing that you changed something and a UUID changed, maybe. If you change the filesystem format, for example, the UUID changes. Run blkid, then check that against /etc/fstab and see if you can find the difference.

EDIT: I think the UUID in your root partition is bogus -- it is supposed to be a hexadecimal number and I see an "x" in there -- that would be illegal, i.e. a "syntax error".

[Qqmike]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

Snowhog has it:

he left out the word UUID
root=UUID=etc-etc

syntax error

[Qqmike]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

not this:
root=88d08091-d9cd-45a8-830a-61ed100852ba
which is what he has

[dibl]

Re: .cannot install (K)ubuntu 7.10 on IDE drive

What's this number?

Syntax error: 0x88d08091-d9cd-45a8-830a-61ed100852ba