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**franklampard** · Oct 06, 2007, 10:26 AM

Re: read/write permissions

here's a link to my screenshot, it's difficult to see there...

http://www.metalmafia.co.uk/elite/snapshot1.jpg

**dibl** · Oct 06, 2007, 10:33 AM

Re: read/write permissions

Which version of Kubuntu are you trying to install? There have been some "issues" with the Disk & Filesystems module in recent weeks with the Gutsy Tribe versions -- there are other & better ways to manage the mounting and permissions on hard drives.

If you could describe what disks you have, and what you are trying to do with them (and assuming you've already reviewed the "My NTFS USB disk won't mount right" posts, I'm sure someone will try to point you in the right direction.

See here, for example:

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3084679.0

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3081671.0

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3085406.0

**Qqmike** · Oct 06, 2007, 10:45 AM

Re: read/write permissions

This may be a repeat wrt the above links, but for the record, the basics of permissions at the command line are explained here:

(specifically permissions & ownership)

http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/files.html

**franklampard** · Oct 06, 2007, 11:05 AM

Re: read/write permissions

i have Kubuntu 7.04 (purchased disk) intalled without problems.

here is my fstab setup:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/hdb7
UUID=8a325e06-fa94-4231-8c2c-9d6037ac0035 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/hda1
UUID=d6a4d42a-4639-4ae7-abaf-938e22a4835a /media/hda1 ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/hdb5
UUID=125F2FE9E3BD6C11 /media/hdb5 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/hdb6
UUID=41f18b0a-1df3-4dcc-8cf8-27965dfe4edd none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0

everything is mounted as i want it. but i want to make /media/hda1 for general use, downloading etc....

then partition media/hdb5 is my old storage drive from windows, i want permissions for that so i can delete some of the stuff from it, (and perhaps format to ext3) there is stuff i want from there though so i don't want to format it without dealing with the files that are currently on the drive.

**Snowhog** · Oct 06, 2007, 12:02 PM

Re: read/write permissions

In order to have read/write permissions to an ntfs formatted partion. you need to have the ntfs-3g package installed.

ntfs-3g
read-write NTFS driver for FUSE

The ntfs-3g driver is an open source, GPL licensed, third generation Linux NTFS driver for 32-bit, little-endian architectures which was implemented by the Linux-NTFS project. It provides full read-write access to NTFS, excluding access to encrypted files, writing compressed files, changing file ownership, access right.

Technically it's based on and a major improvement to the third generation Linux NTFS driver, ntfsmount. The improvements includes functionality, quality and performance enhancements.

ntfs-3g is based on FUSE (userspace filesystem framework for Linux), thus you will have to prepare fuse kernel module to be able to use it.

With ntfs-3g installed, you want to modify your fstab for the /media/hdb5 entry and change ntfs to ntfs-3g. For my nfts formatted partion, this is what my fstab entry looks like:

Code:

# /dev/sda2
UUID=0842EF0542EEF67A /media/vista  ntfs-3g  defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0   1

I have full read/write capability to this M$ Windoze Vista partition.

**ponygirldefiance** · Oct 15, 2007, 10:47 PM

Re: read/write permissions

I have installed the ntfs-3g and i can now work my ntfs windows hard drive. How ever i notice that i can not access my ext3 hard drive on the linux side to add or delete anything. I do remember being in the screen before where i could change the permissions but now that i want to i can not seem to find that screen again. working with the 7.04

Ok let me clarify this a little i can get into the linux drive i just can not change anything in the drive.

Thanks for the info on fixing the ntfs drive it was very simple and easy to follow.

Thanks

**opie** · Oct 17, 2007, 10:00 AM

Re: read/write permissions

Your home directory is not writeable either?

If you go into kmenu -> system settings -> advanced tab -> Disk and Filesystem and use administrator mode button. choose / root mount point, right click and choose modify. Is writeable checked?

**ponygirldefiance** · Oct 17, 2007, 01:41 PM

Re: read/write permissions

I can get into and change the home directory on the desktop. i can go into the windows hard drive partition and change that one.
Where i am having problems is on the storage partition on the linux side.
All the partitions are marked with an X for writable but this is the only partition that i am having problems with. i double checked it and it is marked with an X for writable. it still doesn't allow any changes to the partition.

**Snowhog** · Oct 17, 2007, 06:32 PM

Re: read/write permissions

I'm going to suggest we take a look at your /etc/fstab file as well as the output of:

Code:

sudo fdisk -l

**ponygirldefiance** · Oct 17, 2007, 06:55 PM

Re: read/write permissions

here is a copy of my etc/fstab

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/hdb3
UUID=250310b7-54e1-4ea8-82dc-7a0e8e5e39a4 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/hdb1
UUID=0c23b29d-0066-435d-acba-e1415e4b6613 /media/linux/hdb1 ext3 users,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# /dev/hdb2
UUID=7a53958d-c207-4d56-a61e-2f6c77265727 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0

here is a copy of my sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 155061 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System

Disk /dev/hdb: 163.9 GB, 163928604672 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19929 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 1 18653 149830191 83 Linux
/dev/hdb2 19627 19929 2433847+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hdb3 18654 19626 7815622+ 83 Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order

i don't understand much about this so you may have to give me a little more detail then normal on this one. Thanks for helping.

**integr8e** · Oct 17, 2007, 08:29 PM

Re: read/write permissions

I just found the "e2tools" package in Adept; I don't really know anything about it, but its description says it provides direct read/write/manipulation access for ext3 filesystems to normal users without needing to mount the filesystem. What do y'all think?

**Snowhog** · Oct 17, 2007, 08:49 PM

Re: read/write permissions

ponygirldefinance:

From your fdisk -l output, you have two hard drives in your system. The 80G HD is your Windows HD. The 163.9G HD is what you have Linux installed on.

What your fstab reveals, is that you do not have a separate /home partition. That is not a problem, but given the size of your HD, having had set up a separation partition for /home would have been a better choice. That can be addressed later.

That said, you say: "I can get into and change the home directory on the desktop." By that, I infer you mean while you are booted up in Linux. Is that correct? When you click on the System Menu icon (right next to the K Menu icon) and click on Home Folder, what is displayed on the URL line? Mine is /home/paul

**ponygirldefiance** · Oct 17, 2007, 08:56 PM

Re: read/write permissions

Originally posted by integr8e

I just found the "e2tools" package in Adept; I don't really know anything about it, but its description says it provides direct read/write/manipulation access for ext3 filesystems to normal users without needing to mount the filesystem. What do y'all think?

i tried downloading it but could not seem to find it anywhere after i did. not sure what happened to it.

**ponygirldefiance** · Oct 17, 2007, 09:08 PM

Re: read/write permissions

snowhog:
yes i do have the 80G for windows and 163G for linux. at the time you asked for that i had just wiped out the system and installed linux i have not put windows back on the system yet. i wanted to see if i started over if it would correct its self but it was the same as before.

i have 3 partitions set up for linux.
i have a swap is like 1500mb/ a root is like 8000 mb/ and a home has the rest of it.

yes that is correct i can change the home directory on the desktop while im booted up in linux. my home folder is /home/defiance

hope this helps

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