Couple of questions.

[kubicle]

Re: Couple of questions.

Now that I typed all of that, please tell my it is somewhat useful to you... Thats everything in order what it says under KInfoCenter/Sound. The sound I'm using is onboard because I'm using a laptop... I don't really know if that would make a difference though
Thanks for helping so far. I hope you know what is wrong!

Well, that listing seems to be functional, and your onboard soundcard seems to be configured properly.

The fact that you're on a laptop makes everything slightly harder, since problems/solutions on laptops tend to be more dependant on the particular hardware, so it's harder to give good generic suggestions.

Things you could try, while you wait for answers:

1. Do you have the necessary kernel modules present...what does

lsmod | grep snd

say? there should be things like:
soundcore, snd_pcm, snd_atiixp etc. (you can copy&paste the output here, it might help...or not :P)

2. Test a 32-bit LiveCD to make sure this is not an issue with the 64-bit kubuntu

3. Is there a newer kernel available in the repositories? (unless you wish to compile your own ;P)

4. Try googling with for example: ubuntu laptop "no sound" ATI IXP AC97
(or with your laptop model)
to get ideas/suggestions based on your hardware

5. You could try updating your alsa drivers, visit www.alsa-project.org

That's all I can come up with for now, maybe someone with a similar setup (Laptop, 64-bit, ATI IXP) can help more...if I can think of (or find) anything else I'll let you know. Keep posting updates of how you are faring with it.

[ben_elliott]

Re: Couple of questions.

2. Test a 32-bit LiveCD to make sure this is not an issue with the 64-bit kubuntu

3. Is there a newer kernel available in the repositories? (unless you wish to compile your own ;P)

4. Try googling with for example: ubuntu laptop "no sound" ATI IXP AC97
(or with your laptop model)
to get ideas/suggestions based on your hardware

5. You could try updating your alsa drivers, visit www.alsa-project.org

After typing that in the konsole I got this:

snd_atiixp 21792 1
snd_ac97_codec 87000 1 snd_atiixp
snd_pcm_oss 51232 0
snd_mixer_oss 17664 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 91020 3 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 24200 1 snd_pcm
snd 55784 8 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_ oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 10912 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 11408 2 snd_atiixp,snd_pcm

(Total Newb)
How could I update my Kernel?
In respone to your other questions, I can't currently do stuff right now I will reply later with results.
Thanks For Helping!
benelliott

[kubicle]

Re: Couple of questions.

How could I update my Kernel?

Well, you can look if there is one available in the repos.

1. Start Adept
2. Filter for 'linux-amd64' (Shows the list of the 'complete' amd64 kernel metapackages)
3. Install the one that fits your hardware (or 'generic' if you're not sure)
4. Don't remove your old kernel until you've thoroughly tested the new one (you might keep two kernels available at all times, leaving the older as a backup)
5. Reboot, your new kernel should be in your grub boot list (and probably as the default)

[vetto]

Re: Couple of questions.

Except for the kernel, and the card, it is the same as mine...and mine finally works.

here are my steps...found somewhere on ubuntu forums:

Check chmod of /dev/dsp
In some occasions, sound is only available to root. To check this, open gnome terminal and type “sudo totem” (without quote and you can run other player if you want.) Play a music and check whether you can listen music. If you do, close the totem and type “sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp” (without quote.)
If you still can’t listen any sound check the next step.

Check whether the volume is mute
I know this is ridiculous. But it does happen.
If your sound problem still keep going, check the last step, where my sound problem was finally resolved.

Run alsamixer and turn off IEC related options
IEC is an input to certain high end sound cards that support optical (fiber optic) sound feed from such things as DVD players etc.. My sound card is SIS on board and certainly doesn’t have ability of using IEC. But Ubuntu turned on those options by default.
To turn off those options, rum “alsamixer” (without quote) in gnome terminal. You can move around each option with your arrow key (right and left key.) Move to every IEC related options, turn off all of those options (use keyboard “m” to turn off.) After turning off hit “Esc” key to save, and type “sudo alsactl store” so that it is saved permanently.

In my case, this solved my ubuntu sound problem. I guess, most of ubuntu users whose sound card is detected but have no sound may solve the problem with this simple configuration.

I did all that to no avail, then I unmuted PCM whatever that is in the KMixer and VIOLA!!! sound!

[ben_elliott]

Re: Couple of questions.

Ok, so while I was trying to do all of this stuff, earlier I was trying to install WINE. So now I run into another problem... In the WINE installation on their website, it tells you to:

"opening up Synaptic and selecting Settings->Repositories. Then click add, select custom, and enter the following:

deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/"

So I do this and then Adept crashes... WTF?

So when I try to run Adept now I get this error message:

"The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused
by incorrect APT configuration or something simular. Try running
apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to
resolve the problem."

So I ran both of those, the first "apt-setup" asked for the Kubuntu install disk, so I put it in and did what it told me to do and didn't work. The second "apt-get update" gave me this response:

"E: Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)"

So I'm totally stumped (as is all my experience w/ linux so far LOL).

Also,

above this post is a post about the sound issue... I have done all of and still no sound... Luckily I'm so far able to deal w/ all of headaces.

sudo totem

This comes back with:
"sudo: totem: command not found"

sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp

When typed in the Konsole, it gives me no response and I still can't hear sound...
And volume is not muted, that was one of the first things I tryed
And even after doing all of the alsamixer stuff, still no sound... Frusterating! But the IEC option was on and so I turned it all the way down, and the 2nd IEC option gave me 3 choices PCM, Analog1, and Analog2. So I left it on what it's defualt was which was PCM...

Well, thats it for now I guess, thanks for attempting to help again!

benelliott

[ben_elliott]

Re: Couple of questions.

OMG I actually fixed something for by myself! I went into the Konsole and typed

cd /etc/apt/

Then

 sudo kwrite sources.list

So I looked around and found that stupid code that WINE told me to add and deleted, and saved it now Adept works again!

benelliott

[vetto]

Re: Couple of questions.

sudo totem

assumes that you have totem player installed...try "sudo amarok" or whatever player you have...

I agree with kubicle, search for no sound linux and your laptop or sound card version...let us know how it goes.

[ben_elliott]

Re: Couple of questions.

Ok, that makes sense (the issues about totem). I tryed somg Googleing and no luck yet... I'm going to try a little more tonight.

Side note, I'v been messing w/ WINE and have gotten so close to finishing it but I allwasy get errors. My guess is that they don't support my cpu yet....? Should I try Cedega, or should I not worry about it untill I have more advanced skills...? rofl! Some day hopefully

thanks,

benelliott

-EDIT-

Oh, I ment to mension flash. I think I might have mentioned this before, but I'm not very succesful when I try to add flash support to Mozilla FireFox... Suggestions?

[kubicle]

Re: Couple of questions.

Oh, I ment to mension flash. I think I might have mentioned this before, but I'm not very succesful when I try to add flash support to Mozilla FireFox... Suggestions?

On the Flash section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats it says (among other things:

"For those of us with 64-bit processors (or Mac) there is no non-free flash implementation available because the manufacturer does not support them. However, there are two free implementations. One is gplflash and the other is swfdec.

Don't know if this is still true, maybe someone with amd64 (and working flash) can help you.

[ben_elliott]

Re: Couple of questions.

Oh, I ment to mension flash. I think I might have mentioned this before, but I'm not very succesful when I try to add flash support to Mozilla FireFox... Suggestions?

On the Flash section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats it says (among other things:

"For those of us with 64-bit processors (or Mac) there is no non-free flash implementation available because the manufacturer does not support them. However, there are two free implementations. One is gplflash and the other is swfdec.

Don't know if this is still true, maybe someone with amd64 (and working flash) can help you.

No, it still is true. I worked with it a little and in the end it gave me an error message complaining about my processor... So if I want flash to work I should just install 32-bit...? Im considering that because of sound not working also... do you think that the sound problems could be related to the cpu being 64?
benelliott

[kubicle]

Re: Couple of questions.

Im considering that because of sound not working also... do you think that the sound problems could be related to the cpu being 64?

Well, it's possible, and easily checked with the 32-bit LiveCD, but I dare not promise it is likely :P

Of course if you haven't already set up your system 'perfectly' with amd64, you can install 32-bit to get flash, but I'd try the LiveCD first (and remember to check those mixer settings with the LiveCD as well).

[analyticalman]

Re: Couple of questions.

Are you still with the 64 bit Kubuntu? If so, this is your issue with flash (Macromedia don't do a 64 bit version) and possibly other multimedia types as well (windows movie is impossible as far as i know) Unless you enjoy life at the bleeding edge, the i386 version will give you less hassle and probably no noticeable loss of performance

[ben_elliott]

Re: Couple of questions.

Are you still with the 64 bit Kubuntu? If so, this is your issue with flash (Macromedia don't do a 64 bit version) and possibly other multimedia types as well (windows movie is impossible as far as i know) Unless you enjoy life at the bleeding edge, the i386 version will give you less hassle and probably no noticeable loss of performance

Yeah, I have figured most of that out by now. I'm currently downloadind 32-Bit version. A side question for anybody to answer, what is some differences between Ubuntu and Kubuntu...? And, should I also try Ubuntu 64-Bit just to see if I have better luck with my sound problems...?

thanks,
benelliott

[vetto]

Re: Couple of questions.

what is some differences between Ubuntu and Kubuntu.

There are many threads that address this very question (look on the official Ubuntu/Kbuntu forum also), but basically there is no real difference except the desktop environment. Ubuntu uses Gnome, and Kubuntu uses KDE. KDE is more powerful (configurable/customizable) but also more difficult at first some say, gnome is more..eh, easy? I cant think of a plus for gnome...but that would be a new thread.

[ben_elliott]

Re: Couple of questions.

Ok, currently burning the boot CD for Kubuntu Live. Will reply later and tell you guys how it works.
Thanks
benelliott