Getting Beryl to work

[Samme]

Hi everyone!

I'm new to the "Linux-world" and Kubuntu, but so far I've managed to get my laptop up and running so atleast I can surf, download...you know the usual stuff.

I've got installed latest version av Kubuntu and all packages are up to date with the help of adept.

The laptop is a Compaq Evo N610c:

Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4-M Processor at 1.8 Ghz
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 Graphics Controller with 32 MB of DDR video RAM.
14.1-inch XGA display (I think)
1024 MB DDR RAM (266 MHz)
Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 60GB
Linksys WPC54GS (wireless network)

I've tried to get Beryl working on the laptop, by following this guide:

http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_fei...ryl_ati_radeon

I know my graphics isn't the best, but it was somewhere listed it should work, maybe not enough for all the neatest features, but I'm willing to try just to see some of them, if not all.

Following the guide was easy and everything installs fine (I guess), I get the red little diamond down in the corner and everything seems fine, I get up the menu and try to switch from Kwin to Beryl, it flickers for a few seconds and then it goes back to Kwin.

So, my question is, what do I do next to troubleshoot this and hopefully get this working so I atleast can try it out for a few hours.

Looking forward to all of your help!

/ Samme

[dibl]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

When you run

beryl

in a console window, are any errors reported after it scans your system?

If not, can you run

glxgears

?

[javierrivera]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

You can also run:

$ lsmod | grep fglrx

and

% lsmod | grep agp

Just to have some more info.

Javier.

[Samme]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

Currently I'm at work, but I'll test as soon as I get home, will post my reply in a couple of hours.

Thanks alot for your help this far, I really appreciate it

[Samme]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

The output of beryl is the following:

************************************************** ************
* Beryl system compatiblity check *
************************************************** ************

Detected xserver : AIGLX

Checking Display :0.0 ...

Checking for XComposite extension : passed (v0.3)
Checking for XDamage extension : passed
Checking for RandR extension : passed
Checking for XSync extension : passed

Checking Screen 0 ...

Checking for GLX_SGIX_fbconfig : passed
Checking for GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap : passed
Checking for non power of two texture support : passed
Checking maximum texture size : passed (2048x2048)

beryl: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0
beryl: No manageable screens found on display :0.0

...also glxgears seems okay, i get up the spinning wheels.

lsmod | grep fglrx, gives no output.

lsmod | grep agp, gives the following output:

intel_agp 25244 1
agpgart 35400 2 drm,intel_agp

A strange thing happens when i run 'beryl', when finished, my keyboard stops functioning and open windows moves so the edges of them get "hidden" underneath the upper "macosx-like"-panel.

[dibl]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

beryl: No manageable screens found on display :0.0

I'm pretty ignorant on ATI setups, but I'm guessing this is a problem.

...also glxgears seems okay, i get up the spinning wheels.

But what frame rate does it report (let it run a few minutes, and the frame rate calculations will be output to the console window)?

A strange thing happens when i run 'beryl', when finished, my keyboard stops functioning and open windows moves so the edges of them get "hidden" underneath the upper "macosx-like"-panel.

Hmmm ... never heard of such a thing -- I think you've invented a new Beryl feature!

[Samme]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

Output from glxgears:

3088 frames in 5.0 seconds = 617.594 FPS
3096 frames in 5.0 seconds = 619.064 FPS
3096 frames in 5.0 seconds = 619.167 FPS
3099 frames in 5.0 seconds = 619.632 FPS
3098 frames in 5.0 seconds = 619.506 FPS
3089 frames in 5.0 seconds = 617.746 FPS
3098 frames in 5.0 seconds = 619.411 FPS

New feature - cool

[dibl]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

Output from glxgears:

3088 frames in 5.0 seconds = 617.594 FPS

Excellent -- you've got AIGLX working just fine.

OK, I dunno about the Beryl weirdness -- I'm suggest you google "Beryl with fglrx" issues, or maybe try "error beryl: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0" -- it seems to be a problem related to your particular xorg configuration for your ATI card. Sorry I can't be more helpful :P

[javierrivera]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

That error is nomal .

There is another window manager is already running in screen 0, named kwin .

Also, there's no fglrx going on, just plain old open source ati driver (lsmod empty).

So, what happens when you issue:

$ beryl --replace

This should make beryl replace kwin. Maybe we can obtain some error message.

You can also try to run the "diamond" from the command line.

$ beryl-manager

And try to start beryl. Again, it will probably fail, but we can obtain some informative error.

Javier.

[Samme]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

beryl --replace, gives:

************************************************** ************
* Beryl system compatiblity check *
************************************************** ************

Detected xserver : AIGLX

Checking Display :0.0 ...

Checking for XComposite extension : passed (v0.3)
Checking for XDamage extension : passed
Checking for RandR extension : passed
Checking for XSync extension : passed

Checking Screen 0 ...

Checking for GLX_SGIX_fbconfig : passed
Checking for GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap : passed
Checking for non power of two texture support : passed
Checking maximum texture size : passed (2048x2048)

beryl: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0
beryl: No manageable screens found on display :0.0

A side effect is that the "titlebar" of the windows disappear, in this case Opera, and my keyboard stops functioning. I have to logout or restart the x-server for it to get back to normal.

beryl-manager, gives the output:

X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170
Major opcode: 146
Minor opcode: 3
Resource id: 0x0
Failed to open device
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170
Major opcode: 146
Minor opcode: 3
Resource id: 0x0
Failed to open device

[javierrivera]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

A side effect is that the "titlebar" of the windows disappear, in this case Opera, and my keyboard stops functioning. I have to logout or restart the x-server for it to get back to normal.

That's the system expected behaviour when no window manager is runing. You can usually recover it hitting CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to a console, log-in and then type:

$ DISPLAY=:0 kwin --replace &

The beryl-manager messages are also normal...

I'll try some blind shots to see if I'm lucky:

- In System Settings->Window Behaviour check that you have translucency disabled. If it's enabled, then disable it and try again. Maybe KDE compossition is messing with beryl.
- Try to add another user to the system, log as it, and try to use beryl. Just to rule out any other KDE configuration problem.

Javier.

[dibl]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

A side effect is that the "titlebar" of the windows disappear

This is the famous "missing window decorator" issue -- you only need to enable Emerald to fix it. On the Beryl icon on your taskbar, right-click it, then choose "Window Decorator" then click "Standard Beryl Decorator - Emerald" and you should get the borders back.

and my keyboard stops functioning.

I have never heard of this -- if Javier says it's normal for ATI setups, then OK by me .... :P

X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170
Major opcode: 146
Minor opcode: 3
Resource id: 0x0
Failed to open device
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170
Major opcode: 146
Minor opcode: 3
Resource id: 0x0
Failed to open device

This is the "wacom drivers not needed here" problem - it is completely unrelated to Beryl. You can fix it by commenting out some selected lines in xorg.conf -- it's posted somewhere on this forum.

[Samme]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

Well, I did as Javier said and added a new user and now it works...woho, great, thanks alot - but still i wonder what the difference it makes.

Btw transluency was disabled already before.

[dibl]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

Woooohooot! And thanks to Javier!

[javierrivera]

Re: Getting Beryl to work

and my keyboard stops functioning.

I have never heard of this -- if Javier says it's normal for ATI setups, then OK by me .... :P

I had never said that ;P.

It's the normal system behavior when no window manager is runing, no decoration, no keyboard, mouse working .

Just kill beryl to check it with an NVIDIA setup .

Javier.