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    Help On .Iso Images

    First I want to give you a glimpse of what my project entails (I am new to Linux).

    I have a 1GB flash thumbdrive and am gonna install the Live cd flavor of Kubuntu Intel X86 (Breezy Badger) on to my flashdrive. I have the HP Format Tool and Syslinux at the ready.

    I am gonna put-off partitioning and formatting my flashdrive until I have EVERYTHING figured out.

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    I downloaded (version 5.10) Kubuntu Intel X86 Live cd Breezy Badger but I have not yet burned its .iso to cd.

    The instructions I get on other forums and K/ubuntu sites suggest that I burn my downloaded .iso to cd and then reboot my computer from said cd and then install the Kubuntu OS to the flashdrive.

    I unfortunately do not have a cd/dvd burner installed on the computer I am using.

    What are the steps to installing my flavor of Kubuntu onto my flashdrive without using a cd burner
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    Re: Help On .Iso Images

    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
    gnu/linux is not windoze
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      Re: Help On .Iso Images

      5.10 is quite an old version, why do you want to use it?.

      If you are aiming at stability Dapper is the best one, it is a LTS (Long Term Support) release.

      The lastest release is Feisty (7.04)

      Javier.
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        Re: Help On .Iso Images

        The Ubuntu Community Help wiki page that Jankushka referenced is very detailed and looks as if it ought to work. There is only one problem. The author assumes that you already have Ubuntu installed on the computer you use to set up the Pendrive Since that is obivously not the case, here. you're going to have to modify the instructions to set up the pendrive under windoze. You're probably more familiar with windoze than I am at this point, so I'm going to leave the translation of those instructions to you. Note that many of the linux commands have the same names as DOS commands. This is not a coincidence, M$ ripped them off, years ago. Javierrivera is also correct, you should install either Dapper (6.06) or Feisty (7.04) rather than 5.10

        Later:I should read these things all the way through before commenting! The instructions for doing this with windoze are farther down on the page. I'm sorry, if I've led you astray.
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          Re: Help On .Iso Images

          Well, for one I wanted to use a Live cd flavor of Kubuntu since it may be easier for me to make changes or additions and still retain those changes or additions each time I rebooted.

          Since 5.10 is rather old I will look into Feisty or Dapper. I only have 1GB so space is rather limited. I am not very familiar with Feisty or Dapper so I am not sure which one would be the best for me. Could you give me a short rundown of what each is all about? I like stability so I may use Dapper.

          Thanks for the link jankushka, that will help me greatly!

          Thanks for the advice askrieger, javierrivera, without it I would be clueless.

          One more question I have is the HP Format Tool and Syslinux the right tools for what I need to do? Just wanted to make sure and to double-check my progress.

          Thanks alot guys!!!
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            Originally posted by MR_V1RG0
            I am not very familiar with Feisty or Dapper so I am not sure which one would be the best for me. Could you give me a short rundown of what each is all about? I like stability so I may use Dapper.
            ubuntu release numbers just basically tells you year.month.
            so 5.10 is october 2005, 7.04 is april 2007.
            ubuntu releases are then codenamed.
            no big deal: breezy badger, dapper drake, edgy eft, feisty fawn...
            ubuntu has a 6 month release cycle.
            it's got its pros and cons.
            things have improved quickly, but then support also expires quickly.
            every so often, though, there'll be a lts (long term support) "kinda polished" release.
            you'll find a lot here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distribution)

            hth
            gnu/linux is not windoze
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              Re: Help On .Iso Images

              ubuntu release numbers just basically tells you year.month.
              so 5.10 is october 2005, 7.04 is april 2007.
              OIC, the version numbers are code for when it was released. Cool.


              ubuntu releases are then codenamed.
              no big deal: breezy badger, dapper drake, edgy eft, feisty fawn...
              Why give the same product a new codename on every release? It is confusing to me.

              I understand looking at the version numbers and seeing how 'new' the finished product is.

              I don't understand why there are various codenames for the same thing

              every so often, though, there'll be a lts (long term support) "kinda polished" release.
              Wow. Sounds like I would have to do continuous reinstalls every 6 months just to stay up-to-date.

              What would the steps be to do an "upgrade" similar to Microsoft Winodows so all of the prior changes or additions to the 'old' persistant installation is retained?

              I would like to retain all of the modifications, fancy artwork or graphics such as Looking Glass, networking tweaks, do what I need to do with my install, etc and still be updated with the times.
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                Re: Help On .Iso Images

                Originally posted by MR_V1RG0
                Why give the same product a new codename on every release? It is confusing to me.
                I understand looking at the version numbers and seeing how 'new' the finished product is.
                I don't understand why there are various codenames for the same thing
                there's a marketing issue for sure.
                new name=new things.
                codenames are also used in the repositories to tell one set of sw from another.
                and they do come in handy when referring to the various releases...

                Originally posted by MR_V1RG0
                Wow. Sounds like I would have to do continuous reinstalls every 6 months just to stay up-to-date.

                What would the steps be to do an "upgrade" similar to Microsoft Winodows so all of the prior changes or additions to the 'old' persistant installation is retained?

                I would like to retain all of the modifications, fancy artwork or graphics such as Looking Glass, networking tweaks, do what I need to do with my install, etc and still be updated with the times.
                no, well, actually, i've upgraded from breezy to dapper to edgy without re-installing.
                it's always just a matter of changing the release codename in the repositories file.
                then hit "update" and "dist-upgrade" and let apt do the rest... 8)
                then, of course, you'll have to sort out all the troubles caused by the new sw.
                but that's the same with every os.
                some sorts of upgrade tools are also provided with k/ubuntu, but i never used them.

                in any case, when it comes to updating, nothing matches the efficiency of an apt based system.
                gnu/linux is not windoze
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                  Re: Help On .Iso Images

                  no, well, actually, i've upgraded from breezy to dapper to edgy without re-installing.
                  it's always just a matter of changing the release codename in the repositories file.
                  then hit "update" and "dist-upgrade" and let apt do the rest...
                  What are the SPECIFIC steps for this? Remember, I am a n00b. What is the general directory of the repositories file that you spoke of?

                  then, of course, you'll have to sort out all the troubles caused by the new sw.
                  What do you mean by 'sw'?

                  some sorts of upgrade tools are also provided with k/ubuntu, but i never used them.
                  What are these tools and where would I find them? Once I locate these tools, I'll study their man pages.

                  nothing matches the efficiency of an apt based system.
                  What is an apt based system?
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                    Re: Help On .Iso Images

                    Wow! Your questions require even more explanations than I am willing to provide in a single post! Fortunately, I don't have to. Please take a look at this page at the Ubuntu Community Help Wiki. It will lead you to some other pages that you should also read, if you want to understand what you're getting into.
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