Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

Waiting for Alpha 4


> Kubuntu Meetings

...
Location: #ubuntu-meeting on IRC

...
Agenda

* Review/Approved Kubuntu Netbook plan. -- kitterman 2009-07-31 22:37:30
*Status on Qt 4.5.2 and KDE 4.3.0 in jaunty-backports -- andreas-wenning 2009-08-02 12:17:10
* Default apps: web browser
* Default apps: IRC client
* Status and plan for system-config-printer
* Review papercuts and what can get done
*Patching Kubuntu apps for messaging indicator and other stuff -- kitterman 2009-08-11 17:54:24

> Ubuntu IRC Logs

This site contains logs of Ubuntu-related channels on the Freenode IRC network.

>> /2009/08/11 >>> ubuntu-meeting.html

18:59 Riddell good evening friends
18:59 Riddell kubuntu meeting time?
...

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

Alpha 4


> Karmic Alpha 4 released


Standard warning:

This is an alpha release. Do not install it on production machines. The final stable version will be released on October 29th, 2009.

> Karmic Koala Technical Overview

As is to be expected at this stage of the release process, there are several known bugs that users are likely to run into with Karmic Alpha 4.

> Karmic Koala Alpha 4 Kubuntu


> Bugs in The Karmic Koala
> Reporting Bugs
> How to create useful crash reports
> Apport - Automatic crash reports

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

Firefox Browser Installer

> 2009/08/11/ ubuntu-meeting.html

snip...
19:18 apachelogger well, I said it before, and I will repeat myself
19:18 apachelogger if we want to get best browsing experience we _need_ to go with firefox
19:18 seele yes
19:18 maco i dont like the idea of a default browser that doesnt work with the free flash implementations
19:19 Nightrose +1 on firefox
19:19 maco making users choose between default and non-free?
19:19 ScottK apachelogger: Well we didn't have the netbook discussion today.
19:19 apachelogger I mean generally
19:19 apachelogger the argument that arora renders better than konqueror is quite bogus since firefox renders better than arora for sure
19:19 maco i prefer firefox too...and the theming stuff can make it match alright...
19:19 ScottK FF won't fit on the CD for desktop
... snap

and now > [ubuntu/karmic] kubuntu-firefox-installer 0.1 (Accepted)


kubuntu-firefox-installer:

Package: kubuntu-firefox-installer
Version: 0.1
Architecture: all
...
Depends: ruby, libkorundum4-ruby1.8, libgettext-ruby1.8, install-package, kdesudo
Filename: debs/kubuntu-firefox-installer_0.1_all.deb
...
Description: Firefox installer for Kubuntu
Enables easy installation of Firefox on Kubuntu, via a graphical user
interface and menu entry.
.
This package will be removed once Firefox is installed.

Installing (it is not in the repositories (now) - source is available):

The following extra packages will be installed:
irb1.8 libgettext-ruby1.8 libreadline-ruby1.8 ruby
Suggested packages:
libgettext-ruby-util libgettext-ruby-data
The following NEW packages will be installed:
irb1.8 kubuntu-firefox-installer libgettext-ruby1.8 libreadline-ruby1.8 ruby
0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 167kB/1105kB of archives.
After this operation, 2032kB of additional disk space will be used.

K > Applications > Internet > Firefox Browser Installer

Looks nice 8) .



oops

:~$ kubuntu-firefox-installer
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/install-package", line 287, in <module>
mainWindow = MainWindow(mode, packages)
File "/usr/bin/install-package", line 119, in __init__
if not self._cache[package].isInstalled:
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/apt/cache.py", line 139, in __getitem__
pkg = self._weakref[key] = Package(self, self._cache[key])
TypeError

maybe soon...

[giupenni]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

kubuntu-firefox-installer:

Good!

When a similar way for OpenOffice?

giuseppe

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

KDE 4.3.1

> KDE 4.3.x Schedule

List: kde-release-team
Subject: Re: KDE 4.3.x Schedule
From: Dirk Mueller
Date: 2009-08-20 2:33:00

On Saturday 15 August 2009, Stephan Binner wrote:

> when will tagging/release of 4.3.1 and so on happen?

Thats a good question, the regular interval would be to tag on the last
thursday of this month (so August 27th) and release on first tuesday (so,
September 1st).

This should work for me, I have most likely the time to do it.

Are there any comments? should we delay one or two more weeks? There have been
a LOT of commits in 4.3 branch, so I don't see a strong reason for delaying.

Please speak up now, otherwise I'll go ahead and announce this on saturday.

Greetings,
Dirk

> KDE 4.3.1 tarballs uploaded (try #1)

List: kde-release-team
Subject: KDE 4.3.1 tarballs uploaded (try #1)
From: Dirk Mueller
Date: 2009-08-28 12:03:17

Hi,

I've just uploaded the first set of 4.3.1 tarballs. kde-l10n are still being
generated, there will be one additional language here. I'll upload them
tonight.

not done any testing yet, please report any major errors you'll find.

Greetings,
Dirk

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

Firefox Browser Installer II

After todays python upgrades the kubuntu-firefox-installer is working.


So: K > Applications > Internet > Firefox Browser Installer... clicking Install.

The KPackageKit is telling that it is dowloading additional packages -- 62 of them .



... after a moment: firefox successfully installed.



K > Applications > Internet > Firefox




The installer is installing the Firefox 3.5 BUT as the default is to install recommended packages /1/ it will install lot of crap (gnome-doc-utils, libgnome2-common, etc... those 62 packages).


/1/ > 9.04 Releasenotes

Recommended packages installed by default

In accordance with the Debian Policy Manual (which says "The 'Recommends' field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations"), the package management system now installs packages listed in the Recommends: field of other installed packages as well as Depends: by default. If you want to avoid this for specific packages, use apt-get --no-install-recommends; if you want to make this permanent, set APT::Install-Recommends "false"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf. Be aware that this may result in missing features in some programs.

(This change was made in Ubuntu 8.10.)

Earlier > HardyRecommendsHandling

[kubicle]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

KDE 4.3.1 packages are flowing into karmic repos. Once again, hold the upgrade until you can get all of them (which can, according to previous experience, take a few days). Otherwise KDE will likely break.

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

KDE 4.3.1


> KDE 4.3.1 Release Announcement

September 1st, 2009. A month has passed since the release of KDE 4.3.0, so today the KDE Community announces the immediate availability of KDE 4.3.1, a bugfix, translation and maintenance update for the latest generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop. KDE 4.3.1 is a monthly update to KDE 4.3....

> KDE 4.3.1 Changelog

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

Alpha 5


The Karmic has now the > Feature Freeze :

The Feature Freeze is now in effect for Karmic. The focus from here until
release is on fixing bugs and polishing.

but still:

This is an alpha release. Do not install it on production machines. The final stable version will be released on October 29th, 2009.

> Karmic Alpha 5 released


> Karmic Koala Technical Overview

...
Known issues

As is to be expected at this stage of the release process, there are several known bugs that users are likely to run into with Karmic Alpha 5. We have documented them here for your convenience along with any known workarounds, so that you don't need to spend time reporting these bugs again:

• Users in some timezones will find that their filesystems must be checked (fsck) immediately after install due to a bug in the installer's clock handling. Investigation of this issue is ongoing, and we expect it will be resolved in Alpha 6.
• When using the OEM installation option, the desktop fails to come up after reboot for some users. Investigation of this issue is ongoing.
• The OEM installer is reported to not correctly set up the end user account in Alpha 5. Investigation of this issue is ongoing.
• Due to a bug in the python-boto package, when running ec2-run-instances to launch an EC2 instance you must pass an additional --user-data x option to the command. This bug will be fixed for Alpha 6.
• The virtual kernel image has been built without virtio drivers, so installing using the "minimal virtual" option from the Ubuntu Server Alpha 5 will result in an unusable system after reboot. This problem also affects users of the linux-image-virtual kernel package who have installed from earlier alphas. Users are advised to wait until Alpha 6 before installing or upgrading.
• Installation of an LTSP server using the alternate CD in Alpha 5 will be incomplete because some recommended packages are not installed. This bug will be resolved for Alpha 6. As a workaround, users can install the pulseaudio-esound-compat and dhcp3-server packages after installation.

...

> Karmic Koala Alpha5 Kubuntu

...
New or Improved In Alpha 5

• KDE 4.3.1
• Netbook
• Konqueror by default
• Message Indicator
• ...
• OpenOffice KDE integration

Known Issues

• The Kubuntu Netbook Edition is missing the "install" icon on the desktop. You can start the installation from the menu.
• The Kubuntu Netbook Edition image does not install under Windows (with wubi).

> Reporting Bugs
> How to create useful crash reports
> Apport - Automatic crash reports
> Bugs in The Karmic Koala

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

Waiting for Alpha 6

> Kubuntu Meetings

Location: #ubuntu-meeting on IRC
Date & Time: Thu Sep 10th, 15:00UTC

Agenda

• Message Indicator?
• IRC client?
• KDE3 universe artifacts of an ancient past
• Userconfig vs KUser

> Ubuntu IRC Logs >> irclogs.ubuntu.com 2009/09/10/ ubuntu-meeting

Riddell apachelogger, seele, JontheEchidna, Nightrose, rgreening: council ping 16:02
thanks all for coming for what was not a very well publicised meeting
Riddell agenda as ever is at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings
Riddell I don't think we have anyone for membership?
Riddell first agenda item is from me
Riddell I'd like to propose we include the message indicator in Kubuntu by default
Riddell I find it very useful and a large improvement on what went before...

The Ayatana

> The Ayatana Project

The Ayatana Project is the collective project that houses user interface, design and interaction projects started by Canonical.

> Kubuntu Karmic Ayatana

> kubuntu-devel -- Kubuntu Developer Discussion
>> Ad-hoc meeting/discussion - UDS, Ayatana, notify-osd and Kubuntu
>> Kubuntu and Ayatana plan for Karmic
>> Ayatana-like notifications for Plasma
More >>> September 2009 Archives


XSplash with the Kubuntu

> Blueprint: Kubuntu Karmic XSplash
> full specification: Kubuntu Karmic XSplash

> XSplash
> Making a splash
> Desktop Experience Team Boot Experience Project

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

More Options

From the KDE 4.2 onwards it has been possible to choose between the traditional and the plasma notifications > today's tip: turning off the fancy schmancy notifications in the panel. The KDE 4.3 has the config dialog for this (System Tray Settings).

With the > kdebase-workspace 4:4.3.1-0ubuntu2 there is another option: The Ayatana notifications /1/.




/1/ > Ayatana notifications for Plasma

Introduction

The idea of this patch is to provide an alternative experience for passive notifications (aka without actions) in Plasma, while retaining the current interface for active notifications.

When “Lighter passive notifications” is enabled in the configuration of the system tray plasmoid, passive notifications appear in the top-right corner, and are queued: if three notifications come at the same time, they are displayed one after the other to reduce spamming. These notifications use the Plasma tooltip background so that they are well integrated in the desktop, while looking “lighter” than the regular notifications. The notifications smoothly fade in on start and fade out when done. They also fade out when moving the mouse over them...

Aurélien Gâteau > Indicators, notifications and co

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

Alpha 6


Note that

This is an alpha release. Do not install it on production machines. The final stable version will be released on October 29th, 2009.

and

This is an alpha (pre-) release. Pre-release versions of Karmic are NOT encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or for anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent, breakage. Pre-release versions of Karmic ARE recommended for Kubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.'

and there will be bugs > Bug #430654: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules (Milestone: ubuntu-9.10-beta)

Scott James Remnant: This is perfectly normal, and is to be expected.

We're running a GIT HEAD version of udev to do some testing, the warnings will be fixed with udev upstream next week and result in the udev 147 release proper.

"blakamin": Is this bug going to be present in alpha 6?

Klaus Doblmann: Yes it is, as alpha 6 will be out today and the bug will be fixed next week.

> Karmic Alpha 6 released


> Karmic Koala Technical Overview

...
Known issues

As is to be expected at this stage of the release process, there are several known bugs that users are likely to run into with Karmic Alpha 6...

> Karmic Koala Alpha6 Kubuntu

...
New or Improved In Alpha 6

• ...
• Firefox Installer
• Amarok 2.1.80
• Userconfig 0.9
• ...

> Reporting Bugs
> How to create useful crash reports
> Apport - Automatic crash reports

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

Kubuntu Updates Policy

A thread from the > kubuntu-devel -- Kubuntu Developer Discussion >> Kubuntu Updates Policy

Scott Kitterman
Fri Sep 25 15:45:28 BST 2009

I have an outstanding action to draft an updates policy for Kubuntu and
take it for the tech board for approval. The two questions are what to put
in -updates and what to put in -backports.
...
Here is what I propose:

New KDE versions (e.g. 4.3/4.4) only in PPAs.

Micro-version updates for KDE to -proposed/updates if we have upstream
supoort (we did for Intrepid and will for Karmic/Lucid and do not for
Jaunty).

Micro-version updates for KDE to backports otherwise.

No backports of major Qt updates.

I think we need to do some experimenting with the idea of micro-version Qt
backports.

The backports aspects of this don't need tech board approval. I'd like to
push KDE 4.2.4 to Jaunty backports ASAP and then look at giving Qt 4.5.2 a
go.

If people generally agree with this approach, I'll draft up something for
tech board approval for 4.3/4.4 in updates for Karmic and Lucid.

Scott K

Earlier:

> Re: Jaunty Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.2 (Why isn't KDE 4.2.3/4.2.4 in the jaunty-updates)
> Topic: Lucid Lynx 10.04

[Rog131]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

Waiting for Beta


What applications/versions will be default - A thread from the > kubuntu-devel -- Kubuntu Developer Discussion >> Alpha software and 9.10

Jonathan Thomas
Tue Sep 29 20:30:31 BST 2009

Hello,

It has come to my attention that two pieces of software that we had assumed
would have stable releases by now have now. We need to decide what the best
decision would be to handle this situation...

Kaffiene, which has replaced Dragon Player as the default media player...

K3b I'm a bit less dead-set about....

[askrieger]

Re: Karmic Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.3

That thread was extremely interesting to me (a non-developer) in showing the considerations that go into even seemingly trivial decisions about what winds up on the CD. All of my initial feelings about what they should include and what they shouldn't had to be reconsidered as the thread went on.

Thanks.