Re: Linux train simulator available
Here is an older thread on Mono: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3116091.0
Reply #6 gives the pertinent info.
It has been my opinion that Mono & de Icaza was Microsoft's attempt to get ITS technology as the default API on the Linux desktop, and infecting Ubuntu, the most popular distro at the time, and probably still is despite the Unity uproar, was their means of doing it, even though they had SUSE by the short hairs. Despite the claims of de Icaza and Mono fans, Mono was never free of MS IP. A huge battle took place over Mono. Mono advocates became so aggressive that they claimed that anyone who was against Mono as "fauxLinux" and those for it were the "real" Linux users.
That's why, until earlier this summer, my Kubuntu sig was an earlier quote from Mark Shuttlesworth:
"If Microsoft's API becomes the default on Linux then what is the purpose of Linux?
Mono IS Microsoft's API"
(Edit: replaced "because" with "becomes")
Since that thread a LOT has transpired. Microsoft announced that HTML5, not .NET, would be the default tool on Win8. An uproar caused them to keep .NET but it won't be the major tool it once was, and will probably be dropped entirely within a couple years. I suspect that it was the failure of .NET on the London Stock Exchange, costing the LSE over $1 Billion dollars, even though the software was written by Microsoft and Adventure (if the creator and major British software house can't make a workable solution using .NET then who can?) that led to .NET's demise. The LSE purchased a Linux based trading tool, and the software company that made it, that had been delivering better than twice the speeds MS was promising for over 5 years, with a perfect uptime record. Attempts were made to sabotage the Linux solution but they failed.
And, while the Ubuntu Technology Committee passed a resolution a couple years ago saying that Mono and its apps would be the default API on the Ubuntu remix desktop, and even set up a developer channel where Mono developers would get a fast lane for the adoption of their apps on Ubuntu, with Unity Shuttlesworth announced that Canonical would be writing its own multi-platform desktop and it won't include Mono. This announcement was made after Novell died and de Icaza and his 100+ Mono team was laid off. de Icaza went to Boston to start his own company writing Mono apps for Apple, but has essentially disappeared from the Linux scene, as has Mono.
With .NET on life support at MS (regardless of what MS says -- I was developing with Visual FoxPro when MS cut that tool off at the knees, and they used the same tactics on it that they are now using on .NET), and no real future, what target would de Icaza aim for in extending the capabilities of Mono? And since .NET has entered "maintenance", with no technological improvements, what future does it have, to say nothing of Mono?
Bottom line: don't even bother installing the Mono library on your system. It and its apps are the walking dead. It would be like trying to stay with Win95, or RH 5.0 or KDE3, or run the GEM desktop.
Originally posted by DoYouKubuntu
Reply #6 gives the pertinent info.
It has been my opinion that Mono & de Icaza was Microsoft's attempt to get ITS technology as the default API on the Linux desktop, and infecting Ubuntu, the most popular distro at the time, and probably still is despite the Unity uproar, was their means of doing it, even though they had SUSE by the short hairs. Despite the claims of de Icaza and Mono fans, Mono was never free of MS IP. A huge battle took place over Mono. Mono advocates became so aggressive that they claimed that anyone who was against Mono as "fauxLinux" and those for it were the "real" Linux users.
That's why, until earlier this summer, my Kubuntu sig was an earlier quote from Mark Shuttlesworth:
"If Microsoft's API becomes the default on Linux then what is the purpose of Linux?
Mono IS Microsoft's API"
(Edit: replaced "because" with "becomes")
Since that thread a LOT has transpired. Microsoft announced that HTML5, not .NET, would be the default tool on Win8. An uproar caused them to keep .NET but it won't be the major tool it once was, and will probably be dropped entirely within a couple years. I suspect that it was the failure of .NET on the London Stock Exchange, costing the LSE over $1 Billion dollars, even though the software was written by Microsoft and Adventure (if the creator and major British software house can't make a workable solution using .NET then who can?) that led to .NET's demise. The LSE purchased a Linux based trading tool, and the software company that made it, that had been delivering better than twice the speeds MS was promising for over 5 years, with a perfect uptime record. Attempts were made to sabotage the Linux solution but they failed.
And, while the Ubuntu Technology Committee passed a resolution a couple years ago saying that Mono and its apps would be the default API on the Ubuntu remix desktop, and even set up a developer channel where Mono developers would get a fast lane for the adoption of their apps on Ubuntu, with Unity Shuttlesworth announced that Canonical would be writing its own multi-platform desktop and it won't include Mono. This announcement was made after Novell died and de Icaza and his 100+ Mono team was laid off. de Icaza went to Boston to start his own company writing Mono apps for Apple, but has essentially disappeared from the Linux scene, as has Mono.
With .NET on life support at MS (regardless of what MS says -- I was developing with Visual FoxPro when MS cut that tool off at the knees, and they used the same tactics on it that they are now using on .NET), and no real future, what target would de Icaza aim for in extending the capabilities of Mono? And since .NET has entered "maintenance", with no technological improvements, what future does it have, to say nothing of Mono?
Bottom line: don't even bother installing the Mono library on your system. It and its apps are the walking dead. It would be like trying to stay with Win95, or RH 5.0 or KDE3, or run the GEM desktop.
" Shortly afterward, we didn't even notice any more. We adjusted without even thinking about, like if we were on the phone we'd just automatically say 'hold on a second' and then carry on. We heard the same comments you did about how we could stand living there with all that noise.
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