Great GUI tool !!

[Artemis_Fowl]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Hopefully not much

[Snowhog]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Have faith! There are a few members here who actually try to break their systems!

[dibl]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

I like the splash image previewing and adjusting capability on the "Grub Settings" tab -- that's considerably easier than the way I've been doing it these past years.

I'd love to insert a space between my Kubuntu menu items and the "Other Debians" listed below. Anyone see how to do that?

[Artemis_Fowl]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Do you mean a separator-entry?

Simply create a dummy entry only with a title. Hint: if the title consists of dashes only (-----------) or the phrase ('Other Operating Systems') KGRUBEditor shows no icon for this entry in the list. If however you enter (eg 'Separator Entry') a question-mark icon will appear next to it which is aesthetically not the best

[dibl]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Do you mean a separator-entry?

That sounds like it -- but I was hoping for a blank one -- a space between the titles. Does that work -- it's not obvious how you would do that with the tool. :P

[Artemis_Fowl]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Ehm, that's not possible not because of me but because of GRUB.

An empty entry (I mean whose title consists of spaces only) would cause GRUB to malfunction(don't ask me why - it's complicated). So you have to enter something in that title box.

[dibl]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Yep --- I kinda thought that's the way it is.

Well, at least I can put up a pretty splash image and change it easily with this tool.

[Snowhog]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Hmm. I'll take your word on that. But, then how come the actual menu.lst does have blank lines between the stanza entries:

## ## End Default Options ##

title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3cb6e1de-7583-47a4-b487-58f1502c63a2 ro acpi=off
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3cb6e1de-7583-47a4-b487-58f1502c63a2 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

title Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title Other operating systems:
root

# Added 12-06-07 as suggested by Qqmike
title Kubuntu Feisty boot menu
configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst
# End Added 12-06-07

[Artemis_Fowl]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

In the config file you may enter as many blank lines as you want.

You may not however leave only blank space after the command title. As you may see all title commands are followed by text. Never by whitespace only.

[dibl]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

The text file /boot/grub/menu.lst is one thing, and the screen presentation of it is another, I think.

You can do all kinds of things in that text file, but Grub converts it to a video display using some VERY rigid rules -- try making a splash image if you want a lesson in how rigid the rules are.

But with neither the text file and Kate, nor with the GUI tool can you insert a blank empty line in the screen view of the boot menu, as far as I can tell, and I've tried a few things that seemed like they might have a chance.

[Artemis_Fowl]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

You got it.

The 'screen presentation of it' (as you called it) is called in GRUB 'the simple menu interface'.

[Snowhog]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Is it at all possible to use the color option to fake the desired look? In otherwords, can you use the color option more than once in GRUB, setting the desired color for the real stanzas and a foreground/background setting to make the blank title line effectively invisible?

[dibl]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Very clever, Snowhog!

My interpretation of the very last example on this page suggests that, if one were using a solid background color (one of the 8 legal ones), then it would be possible to make a (bogus) title entry using that same color for the title foreground, and it would not appear on that screen. Thus you could make a space that way.

I'm personally a little addicted to my custom splash images -- I've doctored photos and cards and such and turned them into boot splash images. So, the "cheater" method that you have identified won't work with a graphical background, unfortunately. :P

[MoonRise]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Yep, those were all problems I had and then once I found this tool and added a personal splash, that kind of ruined that. Didn't mind the title actually showing after I got my splash working

[Snowhog]

Re: Great GUI tool !!

Okay, not really elegant, but you could do this:

## ## End Default Options ##

title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3cb6e1de-7583-47a4-b487-58f1502c63a2 ro acpi=off
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
# quiet
title .

title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3cb6e1de-7583-47a4-b487-58f1502c63a2 ro acpi=off single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
title .

title Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
# quiet
title .
### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title Other operating systems:
root
title .

# Added 12-06-07 as suggested by Qqmike
title Kubuntu Feisty boot menu
configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst
# End Added 12-06-07

There will be a period between the displayed menu kernel items. It's small and unobtrusive, but will add a line space between the items.