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    #16
    Originally posted by Bings View Post
    The settings were changed, you can now access the forum with Falkon.
    You are quite right Bings, in addition the ban that had been placed on my account was lifted.
    So for me personally the sun has come out, 'I can see all obstacles in my way'.

    But I have a concern.
    My concern is for others .
    If the algorithm that selected me as 'persona non grata' has performed its mechanical duties in the same way on others.
    Who are they, how many of them are there, do they understand what happened to them and why?
    Does anyone really care, should they be encouraged to move on, move elsewhere,
    is this the wrong sort of place for them?
    Should there be a line of appeal?

    Are we looking for exclusion or inclusion?

    Do you realise that without access to this forum you have no connection to the information here or to the folks who wrote this.
    A blank page gives no right of appeal.

    Please note I have been a member of this forum for many years. In the main my concern is for others.

    If, as we have discovered, it is possible to be banned for using the wrong browser, are there other grey areas?
    Is there anyone capable or willing to review this matter?

    I cannot stress sufficiently that it is not enough to write this matter off as 'these things will happen from time to time'.
    Kubuntu was and should be better than that.
    Last edited by bobbicat; Dec 30, 2020, 11:44 AM.

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      #17
      I need to stress here, that being banned by ZBBlock; our site protection script; isn't the same thing as being banned by KFN; by us (Administrators).
      Windows no longer obstructs my view.
      Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
      "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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        #18
        Originally posted by bobbicat View Post
        If, as we have discovered, it is possible to be banned for using the wrong browser, are there other grey areas?
        Is there anyone capable or willing to review this matter?

        I cannot stress sufficiently that it is not enough to write this matter off as 'these things will happen from time to time'.
        Kubuntu was and should be better than that.
        Speaking personally, you are being both unfair and a tad harsh.

        We (KFN) have the absolute right to protect this site. I don't think you appreciate the absolute nightmare we, specifically me, were having cleaning up KFN from posts by spammers and other non-friendly ilk, prior to discovering and implementing the protection that ZBBlock affords. It was BAD!

        And I would offer that I doubt you, or any one else, can point to another forum on the 'Net that is as responsive to concerns by it's members than KFN is. I practically live here. I very much care about the experience that members here have. But I simply can't please everyone all the time. But I try.
        Last edited by Snowhog; Jan 02, 2021, 09:58 AM.
        Windows no longer obstructs my view.
        Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
        "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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          #19
          Originally posted by bobbicat View Post
          You are quite right Bings, in addition the ban that had been placed on my account was lifted.
          So for me personally the sun has come out, 'I can see all obstacles in my way'.

          But I have a concern.
          My concern is for others .
          If the algorithm that selected me as 'persona non grata' has performed its mechanical duties in the same way on others.
          Who are they, how many of them are there, do they understand what happened to them and why?
          Does anyone really care, should they be encouraged to move on, move elsewhere,
          is this the wrong sort of place for them?
          Should there be a line of appeal?

          Are we looking for exclusion or inclusion?

          Do you realise that without access to this forum you have no connection to the information here or to the folks who wrote this.
          A blank page gives no right of appeal.

          Please note I have been a member of this forum for many years. In the main my concern is for others.

          If, as we have discovered, it is possible to be banned for using the wrong browser, are there other grey areas?
          Is there anyone capable or willing to review this matter?

          I cannot stress sufficiently that it is not enough to write this matter off as 'these things will happen from time to time'.
          Kubuntu was and should be better than that.
          I totally don't see any problem with that protection message.
          If a person is confronted with this message, and he is able to read,
          he gets the necessary instructions on what to do next (= contact the forum admins as instructed in the message)
          Surely people should understand that unfortunately, IT security is very much needed these days.
          Je suis Charlie, how many more people have to die for religions
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          Topic: Top 20 Kubuntu FAQs & Answers

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            #20
            I run a forum myself. After the forum once was completely spammed with the worst kind of hardcore porn, I also installed protection. I agree that's a bit unfriendly, but seeing some hardcore porn as answer on your question about html is probably much more unfriendly for most of the people.
            Like it or not, but you need to have some kind of protection if you run a forum.
            You've bad luck if the software blocks you, but I think it's a bit unjustified to make it look like that happens on a lot of visitors/members here.

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              #21
              Paranoia strikes deep ... etc. And the rest of that particular song.
              The next brick house on the left
              Intel i7 11th Gen | 16GB | 1TB | KDE Plasma 5.27.11​| Kubuntu 24.04 | 6.8.0-31-generic



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                #22
                Originally posted by mbohets View Post
                I totally don't see any problem with that protection message.
                If a person is confronted with this message, and he is able to read,
                he gets the necessary instructions on what to do next.
                IMO, they're unwarranted aspersions about male persons' ability to read, and follow instructions.

                When I've had this trouble, which snowhog has kindly sorted for me several times, there was no message, just "error 503". I suspect using Tapatalk might cause this; it just says variations on "network error", and after a few attempts to connect, some characteristic of your connection is blacklisted altogether so that when you get to a browser the message is not displayed.
                Regards, John Little

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by jlittle View Post

                  When I've had this trouble, which snowhog has kindly sorted for me several times, there was no message, just "error 503". I suspect using Tapatalk might cause this; it just says variations on "network error", and after a few attempts to connect, some characteristic of your connection is blacklisted altogether so that when you get to a browser the message is not displayed.
                  I can corroborate the lack of error messaging when this has happened to me. VPN services were involved often, which are of course oft used by spammers. But not always. Sometimes my mobile IP woukd trigger it. I use tapatalk, but don't recall noticing a relation between it triggering the anti-spam, specifically.

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                    #24
                    The issue with the Falkon browser and blocking by ZBBlock has been resolved. Anyone using Falkon should no longer be blocked just for using Falkon. That said, it doesn't mean that one can't still be blocked when using Falkon, as nefarious content within the URL being served can still trigger a blocking rule.
                    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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