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    #31
    Re: we need a wiki

    Yep, 500 posts would definitely ensure that only someone who's been contributing already gets to edit the wiki, so I would endorse that.

    @toad, a blog is just a running commentary that gets posted. Usually they are only expressing the views of a single author, but you can have a multi-party blog, which is what OS is suggesting. I'm not a big reader of blogs, but here is one that is worth keeping an eye on:

    http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/

    As you can see, it runs for a month or so, and then he archives it and starts the next month. Something like that, anyway.

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      #32
      Re: we need a wiki

      Thanks dibl. Must ... resist ... reading ...

      Done. I know that geezer from the Debian and Ubuntu forums (I think) and of course his envy package. Top draw stuff.

      As I said, if a blog does what is proposed I am not opposed to it (me, a mere ~1500 post baby - ha!), on the contrary. I suggested a wiki 'cos that is all I know

      OS, if your host has an automated blog install but no wiki option it seems the way to go. If you've got to cook it yourself then it is entirely up to you (well, it is anyway...). Ah, that's it.
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        #33
        Re: we need a wiki

        To be honest, I think a wiki is normally used for "knowledge", and a blog for "opinion" -- at least that is my impression from the ones that I have seen. So if the objective is to build a place for "know-how", then the wiki probably is the more correct format.

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          #34
          Re: we need a wiki

          I'd be inclined to go with a wiki over a blog. I too, would be willing to be a contributor/maintainer of such. There are quite a few wiki programs out there - some that can be installed on your own site, and others that are hosted (even for free). From a cost point of view only, having a free hosted wiki that is accessed (linked) from KFN would mean that OS doesn't incur more out-of-pocket expense. It would also mean that his server isn't further stressed. But, ultimately, it's OS's call.

          A note of caution: Whether a wiki is hosted on KFN or on another provider, it would have to be configurable so that only authorized members could actually edit it. I'm sure that is a common feature of a wiki, but one should ensure that it is the case.

          As to limiting those who would have write access - I am in agreement for the obvious reasons. But picking an arbitrary number of posts as the criteria seems to me not the way to go. For example, LinuxIsInnovation (our latest Global Moderator) only has 69 posts. The obvious answer to that is to include all KFN Moderators (and of course, Open Source) as well.

          I'll get yelled at for what I'm about to propose, but... How about establishing a KFN Wiki Working Group that consists of Open Source, Moderators, and Kubuntu Veterans. This would make for a manageable 'core group' of current members. These members would have the ability to make global changes to the wiki. Other KFN members could contribute to the wiki but not make changes to it, except for their own contributions - much like how KFN posts are managed now.

          This approach mirrors the KFN policy of allowing members to contribute, regardless of their posting status.
          Windows no longer obstructs my view.
          Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
          "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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            #35
            Re: we need a wiki

            This core group would need to have some previous knowledge of wiki admin, a whole different ballgame and a good idea to take the load off OS (presuming it gets anywhere). As for user rights I am pretty sure their rights structure is Unix-like so no probs there.

            As for me - I wouldn't mind just being able to add to it after consultation.
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              #36
              Re: we need a wiki

              Would this include things like for VirtualBOX and the like? What about basic CD-ROM burning of an ISO image?

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                #37
                Re: we need a wiki

                @ snowhog

                Now this is edging closer to becoming reality you are quite right - the wiki should have a global appearance and feel to it. fwiw I like the way wikipedia is structured, interlinked and in particular I like its concise, matter of fact style.

                @ moonrise

                Are you offering ?
                Once your problem is solved please mark the topic of the first post as SOLVED so others know and can benefit from your experience! / FAQ

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                  #38
                  Re: we need a wiki

                  Comments understood; I will look into Wiki software options. Let me know if you have some favorite open source wiki products you like. I think I will try to make a sub-domain and post the site there. (wiki.kubuntuforums.net)

                  Obviously link to it from the main page, probably next to the Forum Link.

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                    #39
                    Re: we need a wiki

                    @ moonrise

                    Are you offering ?
                    Don't know. Sounds interesting, but lately I haven't been able to devote much time here. I'd hate to cause a problem due to that. I do like contributing though. Kubuntu has been very good to me and I do like to help others realize what Kubuntu has to offer.

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                      #40
                      Re: we need a wiki

                      The ubuntu wiki runs on moinmoin which is purported to be easy to configure for users/groups and access rights.
                      Once your problem is solved please mark the topic of the first post as SOLVED so others know and can benefit from your experience! / FAQ

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                        #41
                        Re: we need a wiki

                        And another thing to do with editing rights - I'm totally with Snowhog on this one (post 33 4th para) and would love to be involved. The big things that have kept me on my toes so far are beginning to reach manageable proportions so I could do some research, editing, admin, whatever.

                        So, count me in if you'll have me

                        Snowhog, seeing that OS has disappeared in some pub or other again , can you say a little more about these free hosters? There is a bunch listed in that link you posted in your first reply. Do you have any experience with any of them?
                        Once your problem is solved please mark the topic of the first post as SOLVED so others know and can benefit from your experience! / FAQ

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                          #42
                          Re: we need a wiki

                          if there is any thing i can do to help, let me know., don't know what i have to offer that others here can't but i do have quite a bit of free time
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                            #43
                            Re: we need a wiki

                            Originally posted by toad
                            Snowhog, seeing that OS has disappeared in some pub or other again , can you say a little more about these free hosters? There is a bunch listed in that link you posted in your first reply. Do you have any experience with any of them?
                            Nope. No experience with any of them. I posted just to show that options are available - many without cost. Given that OS already pays for this Forum, I wanted to express that a wiki could be provided without having to spend any more money.
                            Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                            Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                            "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                              #44
                              Re: we need a wiki

                              I'm all in favour of you all writing a wiki.

                              It indeed would be easier to sift through the endless prattle and take the really good suggestions over to

                              Kubuntu Guide ( http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntuguide ),

                              which is really orientated towards the end user (especially newbies) and not those trying out new things.

                              UbuntuGuide/KubuntuGuide

                              Right now the killer is being surrounded by a web of deduction, forensic science,
                              and the latest in technology such as two-way radios and e-mail.

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                                #45
                                Re: we need a wiki

                                Well I am back in the good ole' US of A.

                                Toad: I was on the plane, not at a pub

                                Adding a wiki to this site would be free because I would use open source software. I will start searching for the best tool, and let me know your opinions on software option. I will check out moinmoin too.

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