Handbrake

[anonprivate]

the one in red is the one from the PPA you added ,,,

sudo apt install handbrake-gtk

VINNY

I now have handbrake-gtk on my system

This is the version that is available in the muon package manager. My question is: What is the PPA doing?

I thought that if a user installed a PPA then the associated programme would be installed automatically!

Best wishes

Ps Why are there two versions of 'handbrake' in the repository?

[GreyGeek]

Handbrake

Adding a PPA only adds the server to the source.list file. Then, "apt update" updates the cache. To add a package you need to "apt install pkgname". ( As root, of course)

One version is for the command line (cli), and the GTK+ version is merely a GUI front end to the cli version.


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[anonprivate]

Adding a PPA only adds the server to the source.list file. Then, "apt update" updates the cache. To add a package you need to "apt install pkgname". ( As root, of course)

One version is for the command line (cli), and the GTK+ version is merely a GUI front end to the cli version.

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You mean the cache on the muon server.

In the muon package manager I see:

handbrake (GTK GUI)
handbrake-gtk (GTK GUI)

It looks like handbrake is a modified version, hence no mp4 conversion capability, and handbrake-gtk is the unmodified version, that is with mp4 support.

[GreyGeek]

Yes, the cache.
In Neon's repository, as cached by "apt update", is this listing:

:~$ apt-cache search handbrake
handbrake - versatile DVD ripper and video transcoder (GTK+ GUI)
handbrake-cli - versatile DVD ripper and video transcoder (command line)

[anonprivate]

Thank you, and thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

[vinnywright]

You mean the cache on the muon server.

muon is not a server ,,,,,it's a package manager .

when GG said ,,,,,,"Then, "apt update" updates the cache." ,, he was refering to the package cache on your box ,,,it's a list of all applications available from the severs you have listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list ,,,and the lists in /etc/apt/sources.list.d.

you have been doing this for a wile now and should really do some reading up and research on what you are doing !!

In the muon package manager I see:

handbrake (GTK GUI)
handbrake-gtk (GTK GUI)

It looks like handbrake is a modified version, hence no mp4 conversion capability, and handbrake-gtk is the unmodified version, that is with mp4 support.

if you click a package in muon then right click and property's you should see where the package came from ,,,,I think , I have not used muon in a wile now ,,,,BUT will boot to the 14.04 install in a wile and post back just how to do it ,,step by step.

the brake down is like this ,,,,,,

# deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 16.04 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Alpha amd64 (20160319)]/ xenial main multiverse restricted universe

# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial restricted main
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates main restricted
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial universe
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial universe
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates universe
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu 
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to 
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in 
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial multiverse
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial multiverse
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates multiverse
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates multiverse

## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-backports multiverse universe restricted main
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ xenial partner
# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ xenial partner

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-security main restricted
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-security main restricted
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-security universe
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-security universe
deb[COLOR=#ff0000] http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/COLOR] xenial-security multiverse
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-security multiverse

deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/debian/stable/ /

deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/debian/stable/ /

deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/stable/ xenial main
# deb-src http://archive.neon.kde.org/stable/ xenial main

#graphics drivers (nvidia)
[COLOR=#0000cd]deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu/ xenial main[/COLOR]

this is a /etc/apt/sources.list file ,,,,,,,, scroll to the end ,,,,,,,,, the # are to comment out that line so that apt will not try to parse (read)it .

the part in red is the web address of the server that has the packages (on every line that is not commented out)...you could copy that to the address bar in your web browser and go their to look around if you wanted to.

the line in Blue is a PPA I added to get fresh Nvidia drivers ,,,,,,Just adding the PPA dose not get you anything and the system (apt) dose not know its even their or whats in it until you run

sudo apt-get update

,,,,now you have updated the package cache and apt knows it's their and whats in it ,,,,but that's it ,,,,if you want what's in it you still half to install it .

you must be careful doing this kind of thing however if you add the wrong PPA or even a change your release in an official Ubuntu repo { IE: if I were to change xenial to zesty on some line in the above sources.list} you could render your self unable to install anything due to broken dependences.

,,,,,,,,,,OK let me quit ranting and go to 14.04 and muon and see how to find the info on a package in it .



VINNY

[anonprivate]

As usual, you are doing an awful lot of work. That is your decision, and I realise that you are trying to help.

I wish you had notsaid

'you have been doing this for a wile now and should really do some reading up and research on what you are doing !!'

This is the sort of remark that leads me to block users. You are not blocked.

I have marked the thread a 'solved', discussion can, of course, continue by any interested party.

[vinnywright]

OK it's even easier in muon than I remembered ,,,,,,,,screenshot.



OK see on the far left ,,,to find the handbrake PPA (yes I had it as well ) filter by "Origin ,,,click the Handbrake releases , and now you see what is available from hear ,,,and that handbrake-gtk is installed ,,,click the package then the technical details tab and you get some more info

VINNY

[vinnywright]

I wish you had notsaid

'you have been doing this for a wile now and should really do some reading up and research on what you are doing !!'

This is the sort of remark that leads me to block users. You are not blocked.

,,,,,sorry ,,,and my apologies ,,,,I can see re-reading it how it might hurt some ones feelings ,,,,,,,sorry I was just trying to emphasize to be careful with PPA's and sources lists .,,,,,,,,,

however "

This is the sort of remark that leads me to block users. You are not blocked.

could be construed as a threat ,,,,,,,,,But whatever

VINNY

[anonprivate]

OK it's even easier in muon than I remembered ,,,,,,,,screenshot.



OK see on the far left ,,,to find the handbrake PPA (yes I had it as well ) filter by "Origin ,,,click the Handbrake releases , and now you see what is available from hear ,,,and that handbrake-gtk is installed ,,,click the package then the technical details tab and you get some more info

VINNY

Interestingly, when I click on Handbrake Releases, nothing appears in the central main pane. Yet, Handbrake is installed!

UPDATE:

On locating handbrake in muon, and then returning to Handbrake Releases, I now see that handbrake-gtk installed. Hopefully the PPA will keep the programme up to date