[CONFIGURATION] Getting upate notifications without muon-notifier?

[Silent Observer]

I got tired of muon-notifier starting muon-updater with a click (I prefer Synaptic -- mostly because it's what I'm used to, but also because Muon seems less versatile), so I uninstalled all the Muon parts and installed update-notifier-kde in their place, but now I don't see how to ensure the daemon or cron job that checks for updates periodically is running. Do I just need to reboot after installing, run a one-time command (like a modprobe for a kernel module), or add a launch line to a startup script somewhere? Or does the installation start the daemon automatically, and I don't have to do anything? I just installed updates, so it might be days or even possibly weeks before there's another one -- makes it hard to test if the thing is working...

[SteveRiley]

Packaged within update-notifier-kde is the file kingston_update_notifier.desktop. The file contains the line X-KDE-Kded-autoload=true. This tells KDE to load the program when the desktop starts.

[Silent Observer]

Cool, I've restarted a couple times since installing, and I've seen notification at least once, so it seems to be working. Is there a way to get it to put an icon in the tray when there are updates, or do I have to depend on seeing the (rather subtle) system notification?

[SteveRiley]

I don't have an answer for you, as I don't rely on any kind of automatic update notifier. Instead, my morning routine is the following:

sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade

[SecretCode]

apt? Not apt-get?

[SteveRiley]

man apt

[SecretCode]

man apt

BUGS
This manpage isn't even started.

$ sudo apt update
sudo: apt: command not found

There's an apt manpage for the APT system but no executable of that name.

Is this new with the most recent *buntus, or am I missing something important?

[kubicle]

The "simpler" apt syntax was added in apt version 1.0 (you probably have an earlier version)

[SecretCode]

OK, I'm starting to feel less paranoid now. On 14.04 apt is there. And it has a less skeletal man page!

Thanks

[Silent Observer]

Since my system runs 24/7 (saves me time when I need a quick lookup -- no waiting 2-3 minutes for a system boot for a 1 minute task -- and I use all those clock cycles for BOINC tasks), I can't very readily include those commands in one of the startup scripts, but I supposed I could set kalarm to pop up a terminal with that command, to wait for my password entry (which would also let me put off a scheduled update at need). However, I've found I tend to spot the system notification pretty readily, since it adds a row to the tray and I keep it cleared out in normal operation.